WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.160 Madam Clerk if you could take the roll. Oh I'm not even recording but I bet Kurt is. 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:15.480 Mayor Miller? Here. Alderpersons, Klemm? Here. Monroe and Simmons are absent. Parker? 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:29.039 Here. Stacy? Here. Shadle? Here. Sanders and Sellers are absent. I saw him already. 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:41.619 okay Sanders is present I'm sorry so we do have a quorum Sellers is absent thank 00:00:41.619 --> 00:00:44.960 you the Pledge of Allegiance 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:28.039 Item 4 would be the approval of the agenda. So moved. Second. Motion by Klemm, second by Parker. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion passed. Item 5 would be public comments on agenda items. There were none. None listed. 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:33.980 None listed. And then can you note that 501, that Alderman Monroe came? Thank you. 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:36.800 And 00:01:36.800 --> 00:01:42.440 Item six would be discussion of the following budgets by City Manager Boyer and Director Richter. 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:52.320 Thank you, Mr. Chair. We were gonna drop the downtown loan budget just for point of information. 00:01:58.040 --> 00:01:59.040 Johnson. 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:07.680 All right. 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:10.680 Good evening, everyone. 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.760 Don't know what's going on with the air condition, kind of discovered that today, so we should 00:02:13.760 --> 00:02:18.400 have that fixed here soon, but I apologize for the temperature. 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:23.319 If we could, Kurt, if you could go ahead and put up the Police Department General Fund 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:26.520 budget. 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:32.120 So just picking up on where we left off, tonight we're going to go over the Police Department 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:38.420 General Fund, the Drug Forfeiture Fund, and the Fire Department General Fund, the Fire 00:02:38.420 --> 00:02:44.439 Public Safety Fund, Fire Improvement Fund, and the various TIF funds, Lamb Road, Downtown, 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:50.020 West Avenue, and Berchard and Meadows TIF, and then we'll discuss the projects fund. 00:02:50.020 --> 00:02:55.860 So I will be having some of the department heads maybe chime in toward the end of each 00:02:55.860 --> 00:02:59.860 and I will go through each section just to kind of give any more specificity that's required. 00:02:59.860 --> 00:03:05.860 So with that let's go ahead and get started with the Police Department budget. 00:03:05.860 --> 00:03:07.860 and others. 00:03:22.880 --> 00:03:25.880 So currently, talking about non-bargaining to start with, 00:03:25.880 --> 00:03:29.880 currently there's only, there's a cost of living increase 00:03:29.880 --> 00:03:33.880 included here. However, police bargaining, we are currently 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:35.879 and I have been doing a lot of bargaining at this time. 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:39.879 So we have not included what we're thinking for, 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:41.879 what may be negotiated yet. 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:45.879 So all you're seeing is like the standard 3% increase. 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:47.879 And I just want to get that confirmed. 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:49.879 Michelle, is that correct? 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.879 We've just included the 3% cost of living in. 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:54.879 We haven't included a 3. 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:59.879 We've only included where people are actually on the chart right now. 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:07.560 may have bumped up a longevity type increase, but there's nothing in there currently for 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:08.560 the bargaining. 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:13.840 Okay, so just bear in mind that we are currently in bargaining with the police and that is 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:19.399 not reflected in this item as of right now. 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:24.120 Also the health insurance has been adjusted by the current staffing requirements, so if 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:54.120 if you go down to item 52-20, health insurance has been adjusted by the number of folks we have on staff and this is also a reoccurring theme, our workman's comp insurance this year was increased by 30 percent, that has to do with the number of claims, we had several claims that were long in coming, got resolved last year, but that is impacting our workman's comp moving forward. 00:04:54.120 --> 00:05:02.120 Ford for a little, for the next few years. So, the Police Pension Fund Contribution, which, let's see, 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:11.959 that'd be item 5255. Large property tax distribution is received, which will be October 4th. 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:19.560 The amount to be paid this fall is 392,000 yards, so we're seeing some, some savings on that. 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:49.560 Friesen. Department gear and clothing that increased to several more officers hired this year. So that would be item 6210. And this line is not expected to be over budget next year. So but it is we are compensating for the anticipated new hires. Education and training that is a 6260. Also current year is over budget due to several more 00:05:49.560 --> 00:06:00.560 and I. We have a lot of new officers being hired this year, not anticipated to go over next year, so this is an academy and PTI for our newly hired officer candidates. 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:09.560 Office supplies, slight increase of $500 there, that's item 6710. 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.560 And then machinery and equipment. 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:23.560 Item 7010, we're looking at the addition of a new scene light, an automatic defibrillator device, a radar speed sign, and a range trailer. 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:31.560 Any questions on the police department general fund budget? 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.560 How many non-barking people do we have? 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:41.560 I'm going to refer to Chief if you have that handy. 00:06:42.560 --> 00:07:08.560 There's ten. Ten? And Ashme, the union in the Police Department, are those like the 911s, the dispatchers? So how many of those do we have? There's twelve. Twelve. Thank you. Twelve full-time, then there's three-three part-time. 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:38.560 Alderman Monroe. Thank you. Quick question. So there are several line items with very large numbers that are under budget items forward, like if it was budgeted this year and not used. It's not like I can roll that and add it to whatever we're budgeting for 2025. I don't know if that answers your question. Not really. So how do we track that money moving forward? And it I mean, if if 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:47.319 If you do not use, so if you're allocated $5,000 and you only use $4,000, is that your question? 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:48.319 Nothing happens to it. 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:49.319 It stays in general fund. 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:59.639 It goes into fund balance, unless the directors are allowed to work within their departments. 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:06.199 So they may have a line item that's over $1,000 and they may have a line item under $1,000 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.399 and more that would mesh each other out. 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:12.360 But if their total budget is so much 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:16.120 and they did not come close to spending their total budget 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:19.439 that doesn't go anywhere. 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:20.279 I mean. 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:24.800 It contributes to our end of the year budget surplus 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.759 or deficit, whatever the case may be. 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:27.599 Right. 00:08:27.599 --> 00:08:29.439 Unless there's anything unforeseen, 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.439 there's something council did different during the year 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:32.960 that we have to re-budget. 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:36.179 Everything always has to stay within the general fund. 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:41.200 So this is a general fund budget. It has to stay within the general fund. 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.200 All the best, General. 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:56.200 Thank you. So kind of going line by line, it looks just like about 90% of these line items increased year over year as far as the budget goes. 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:01.200 Why is that? 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:06.560 Well, I would say that it aligns with essentially our mission. So you're seeing increases in the 00:09:06.560 --> 00:09:13.360 staffing levels because we've increased our capability. So we have a cap staff of 48. We've 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:19.040 been under that for several years in a row. We're getting close to full staff. So to answer your 00:09:19.040 --> 00:09:26.400 question there, that's why. As far as the other items are concerned, if you have any items 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.079 and specifically of concern, let's point those out. 00:09:30.079 --> 00:09:33.399 I think it's just the general idea 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:34.879 that it's just going to increase 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.179 and that that's okay and acceptable. 00:09:38.259 --> 00:09:40.259 Okay, as far as I understand, 00:09:40.259 --> 00:09:45.259 we've got pretty much two major concerns in the city 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:47.559 once our law enforcement. 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:51.079 So we're trying to move forward and be effective 00:09:51.079 --> 00:09:53.240 and have the appropriate funding necessary 00:09:53.240 --> 00:10:00.039 to accomplish our goal and to manage our situation as best as possible. 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:13.639 We just try to account for growth and new equipment especially like for example machinery and 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:21.039 equipment one of the things we need is you know we have a lot of complaints about people 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:25.039 speeding and we're out there trying to do radar patrols and things like that so we would 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:31.319 We'd like to get radar signs, signs that show the speed in light, and then show how fast 00:10:31.319 --> 00:10:35.399 you are, but then also compile data so we can find out what's actually going on in those 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:36.399 areas. 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:41.879 So, I mean, that's why that has a big increase there. 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:44.159 Alderman Stacy. 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:49.439 Okay, so I'll stick with the five and the four. 00:10:49.439 --> 00:11:00.639 If we budget for $5,000 and we spend $4,000, why would that $1,000 not transfer over and 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:08.799 instead of budgeting another $5,000, only budget $4,000? 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:16.679 Because we already have one that's still there. 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.399 Each year is its own. 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:25.879 So budgets don't transfer from year to year or add on from year to year. 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:27.799 Each year is its own. 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:28.799 Follow-up? 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.319 Yes, Alderman Stacey. 00:11:31.319 --> 00:11:39.839 So the money we're budgeting for the police all comes from the general fund? 00:11:39.839 --> 00:11:44.839 This budget here, yes, is all general fund. 00:11:44.839 --> 00:11:50.000 All right, any other questions on that? 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:57.199 I just want to comment that I'm not seeing, I guess, what Alderman Monroe was talking 00:11:57.199 --> 00:12:09.319 about all these line items going up other than the stuff attributed to more personnel. 00:12:09.319 --> 00:12:16.319 is up a little, a $1000, animal supplies due to a new canine. 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:25.120 Contracted vehicle repairs is down equal equal equal equal. 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:31.859 Fuel and gasoline is down. 00:12:34.059 --> 00:12:39.059 Alderman, Monroe, Alderman, Monroe, Alderman, Monroe, 00:12:39.059 --> 00:12:46.299 Thank you. You know, I guess my biggest question is we've got almost $300,000 of built-in overtime 00:12:46.299 --> 00:12:52.179 for non-bargaining, ask-me-police, but yet we're reaching full-time status filling of 00:12:52.179 --> 00:12:58.259 all the positions. So why would that necessitate so much overtime? It feels like we're building 00:12:58.259 --> 00:13:04.779 fluff into this budget. And you know, the one thing the citizens of Freeport, they do 00:13:04.779 --> 00:13:09.779 Do you want things dealt with like speeding and gunshots and everything else? 00:13:09.779 --> 00:13:11.939 And we've been doing a lot of work on that. 00:13:11.939 --> 00:13:15.500 We've given a lot of money to the Department for New Vehicles. 00:13:15.500 --> 00:13:16.500 We bought a new van. 00:13:16.500 --> 00:13:20.939 We bought other new vehicles, new equipment, new radios. 00:13:20.939 --> 00:13:26.659 That's my concern is that here we've got all this built in, almost $280,000 just in overtime. 00:13:26.659 --> 00:13:33.379 I understand on the 12-hour shifts that there's four hours of overtime every two weeks. 00:13:33.379 --> 00:13:34.379 and others. 00:13:34.379 --> 00:13:37.939 That should be much easier to kind of understand than keeping it the same. 00:13:37.939 --> 00:13:42.379 It shouldn't stay at the same levels of overtime if you're fully staffed. 00:13:42.379 --> 00:13:46.379 That's, I mean, that's something we've kind of had back and forth with the fire department 00:13:46.379 --> 00:13:47.379 as well. 00:13:47.379 --> 00:13:50.379 And it's going to be one of my questions. 00:13:50.379 --> 00:13:56.980 You know, we have to maintain spending within our allowance, our budgets. 00:13:56.980 --> 00:14:03.019 We did a big pay increase for one of the departments this year after we did the 1 percent increase 00:14:03.019 --> 00:14:05.019 and others. 00:14:08.220 --> 00:14:10.220 So, I think it's important for all of us as 00:14:11.439 --> 00:14:13.439 Councilmembers and citizens of this community to make sure this 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.039 community remains at a level that we can afford to live here. 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:19.919 And that's the reason why I'm asking these questions. 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:25.799 You know, when you have $280,000 in overtime built in, we 00:14:27.220 --> 00:14:29.220 should really know, if we're fully staffed, what that 00:14:30.319 --> 00:14:32.319 overtime is. There shouldn't be a guesstimate, there shouldn't 00:14:33.019 --> 00:14:35.019 and 00:14:37.019 --> 00:14:39.019 John. 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.200 We have a lot of issues with the police department. 00:14:43.299 --> 00:14:45.299 We have a lot of issues with the police department. 00:14:46.419 --> 00:14:48.419 We have a lot of issues with the police department. 00:14:49.859 --> 00:14:51.859 And if we need to come back to it during the year, we address 00:14:51.859 --> 00:14:53.859 that. We always do. 00:14:54.980 --> 00:14:56.980 We always support the police department. 00:14:58.099 --> 00:15:00.099 What we have to get better at is understanding these numbers and 00:15:00.099 --> 00:15:06.099 We get confused with fully staffed, meaning that right now we're at 45. We have 45 officers out there. No, we don't. 00:15:06.099 --> 00:15:13.099 You can subtract eight from that, so we're at 37, because we have five in the academy and three in field training. 00:15:13.099 --> 00:15:18.099 So we're still understaffed, and we don't have those bodies available to us. 00:15:18.099 --> 00:15:24.099 Now, I think also what I should bring the attention of is we run a lot of... 00:15:24.099 --> 00:15:28.939 and the Department of Transportation gives us $52,000 a year to hire back officers to 00:15:28.939 --> 00:15:34.179 do speed enforcement, DUI details, occupant protection. 00:15:34.179 --> 00:15:40.339 So that overtime is taken out of our overtime budget but then we're reimbursed but then 00:15:40.339 --> 00:15:44.980 that goes back in the general fund so I don't think that we necessarily see that coming 00:15:44.980 --> 00:15:46.659 back into our overtime budget. 00:15:46.659 --> 00:15:52.059 So I don't know exactly all the numbers on reimbursed overtime because we also get reimbursed 00:15:52.059 --> 00:15:59.099 Barth, Eileus, but there's a good portion of our budget that is reimbursed. 00:15:59.099 --> 00:16:03.339 Madam Clerk. 00:16:03.339 --> 00:16:08.819 Another portion that's reimbursed is for special events. 00:16:08.819 --> 00:16:12.819 And that will always be called back on Over Time Correct, Chief. 00:16:12.819 --> 00:16:18.059 You always, when a special event comes in and so many officers are requested, or the 00:16:18.059 --> 00:16:22.740 and the Chief deems that officers will be needed like music on Chicago. 00:16:22.740 --> 00:16:24.579 They're always called back on overtime. 00:16:24.579 --> 00:16:31.480 They're never taken from people that are on the street and then my office bills for some 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:34.480 of that. 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:35.799 Thank you. 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:36.939 And that goes to my point. 00:16:36.939 --> 00:16:40.740 We should manage and track that on separate line items because if we know we're getting 00:16:40.740 --> 00:16:46.519 the money back, we should have that broken out so that we know what our actual cost is 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:48.519 and 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:52.519 Mr. 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:56.519 Dixon. 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:01.519 And that is one of the problems that I am not seeing here. It is all 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:04.519 piled in together. So we have money moving back and forth and it 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:06.519 doesn't make a lot of sense to the lay person. 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:12.519 Director? We do have that on a separate line item when we go 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.519 through the general fund revenues that the PD overtime 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:17.519 and 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.519 John, and then we put revenues and expense items in the same 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:27.519 line to mesh them together because you lose the data there. 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:31.519 And I think you do want to know how much we're receiving back. 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.519 And that is in our revenue section of the general fund. And 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.519 I'm sorry. You're only seeing, we've only started through the 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.519 expense section. We haven't gone through the revenue section 00:17:41.519 --> 00:18:03.519 Okay, moving on, just to touch on the drug forfeiture fund, this fund is governed by the state of Illinois statutes, the funds are for use in the enforcement of laws, regulating controlled substances in cannabis, and I'd like to ask Chief if you want to just mention a couple things on this one. 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.519 Sure, did you say the drug fund? Sorry, I got distracted. 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:15.519 So the drug fund is comprised of monies that's lawfully seized and awarded to us through the Illinois State Police. 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:23.519 So, for example, if we seize $1,000, it goes through the court process. Once it's awarded to us, we get 66% of it. 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:28.519 The rest of it, some of it goes to the State Attorney's Office, some of it goes to the Illinois State Police. 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:37.840 Police. So that money can only be used for the enforcement of narcotics violations and 00:18:37.840 --> 00:18:45.400 cannabis control act type violations. So this year, we used it on our evidence software, 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:53.480 which has an annual fee. It's an approved expenditure. That was about $3,600, I think. 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:58.400 We also, our canine went through a training. 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:02.039 We helped to pay for that with the drug fund. 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:05.000 We also bought a mobile high resolution camera 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:08.200 with its own DVR that integrates into our system 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.240 so we're able to see it online. 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:13.059 State's attorney actually split the cost of that with us, 00:19:13.059 --> 00:19:14.960 which was over $5,000. 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.400 We paid about $2,500, so we used it for that. 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.200 And to pay for our title and registration for a vehicle 00:19:21.199 --> 00:19:25.039 that was seized with drug, through the drug forfeiture laws. 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.759 And then, so we used that money to pay for the title 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:29.460 and registration for that vehicle. 00:19:30.679 --> 00:19:33.199 Any questions on the drug forfeiture fund? 00:19:33.199 --> 00:19:34.079 Alderman Monroe. 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:35.599 Thank you Alderman Shadle. 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:39.000 So does the vehicle we sold a few years ago 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:42.839 that we had seized, does that money go back into this fund 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:44.739 or does that go into a different fund? 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:47.599 Do you know which vehicle it was? 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:49.960 It was the Escalade that was driving around. 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:55.799 Okay. So, more than likely, I would assume that that would go right into the general fund. 00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:59.719 It did not go back into the drug fund. That would have been, as long as we possessed it 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:00.720 and St. Louis Department of Public Services. 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:01.720 Thank you all so much for joining us. 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:02.720 It has been a very special day. 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:03.720 I would like to thank all three of you for joining us. 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:04.720 Thank you very much. 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:05.720 I hope you have a wonderful day. 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:06.720 Have a nice rest of week. 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:07.720 Thank you so much for joining us. 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:08.720 It has been his great honor. 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:09.720 We'll see you next week. 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:10.720 Have a nice night. 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:11.720 Bye. 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:12.720 Bye. 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:13.720 Thanks. 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:14.720 Thanks. 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:15.720 Good night. 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:16.720 Good night. 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:17.720 Take care. 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:18.720 Bye 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:19.720 Good night. 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:20.720 Good night. 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:21.720 Good night. 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:22.720 Bye. 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:23.720 Good night. 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:24.720 Good night. 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:25.720 Good night. 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:26.720 Good night. 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:27.720 Good night. 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:28.720 Good night. 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:34.360 as long as we possessed it for amount of time defined by statute then then that 00:20:34.360 --> 00:20:37.600 would have been gone back into the general fund it didn't go in the drug 00:20:37.600 --> 00:20:43.640 fund I know that so okay thank you yep okay with that I'd like to move on to 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:53.400 the fire department general fund so the fire department wages have been adjusted 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:57.480 for cost of living and the bargaining group has been adjusted for the 00:20:57.480 --> 00:20:59.480 and 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:02.680 the contractual increase for 2025. 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:04.680 Staffing level is the same as 2024. 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:12.680 Also, Workman's Comp has been also adjusted upwards due to the, 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:16.680 as previously mentioned, the increase in Workman's Comp. 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:20.680 The fire pension contribution has not been paid yet for this 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:24.680 year and we will wait until the second large property tax 00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:34.360 to be October 4th. The amount to be paid this fall will be $703,437. The amount was determined 00:21:34.360 --> 00:21:40.960 by our actuarial and due to the fire staff increasing by three in 2024, we have increased 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:47.160 this expense item for 2025 and that is the additional firemen that are paid for through 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:53.519 the Safer Grant. This does two things. It begins our ability to cover an additional 00:21:53.519 --> 00:22:02.240 Ambulance, and it also prepares for future department retirements. So in addition to 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:08.759 that, we've got building repairs. $50,000 of this line item is for repairs at the 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:13.920 park station. There's an issue with the sewer drain there in the parking lot, and 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:18.240 so we're budgeting that out of two locations, but approximately $100,000 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:23.039 total. Contracted vehicle repairs and maintenance. This has been decreased due 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:30.039 and I have been working on this since 2012 in-house work that's been going on there to keep our repair costs to a minimum. 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:37.039 So we had a small increase over last year with $5,000 just moving forward to 2025. 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:44.039 Education and training, this increased $10,000 for new employee training, paramedic school and fire academies. 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:49.039 So again, this is like a one-time cost to bring additional staff on. 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:56.440 and then both diesel fuel and and gasoline are going up due to the actual 00:22:56.440 --> 00:23:03.400 costs of what they their actual costs then all supply all supply line items 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:09.559 have been budgeted at the same amount for 2024 so any questions on the fire 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:12.160 Mayor, General Fund. 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:20.319 If I may, excuse me, may I add something? 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:21.319 Yes, Chief. 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:28.160 So just a couple of highlights that I identified when putting this budget together was overtime 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:32.120 has diminished over 50 percent since 2023. 00:23:32.120 --> 00:23:38.960 We have eight line items that are the same projected for 25 versus 24. 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:43.920 We have five lines that have decreased within the budget. 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:50.740 So how I comprise this is I looked at spending history, and if what was previously budgeted 00:23:50.740 --> 00:23:58.320 from 23 or 22, I saw a downward trend, I verified reasons why it was downward because we managed 00:23:58.320 --> 00:24:05.039 our accounts better, so I adjusted the proposed budget for next year accordingly. 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:12.480 with all the other items that, okay, we budgeted $30,000 for equipment repair and maintenance 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:18.120 halfway through the year. We're at $16,000. That tells me we're right on with our projections 00:24:18.120 --> 00:24:23.840 and our budgets. So that's why many of these things are the same because looking at spending 00:24:23.840 --> 00:24:26.960 history, we are right on track with where we should be. 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.039 Hold it, Mr. Monroe. 00:24:30.039 --> 00:25:00.039 I'd like to just make one comment. That's that's what I was expecting to hear from the police department as well as we get back to full staff is that type of downward trajectory with the overtime. Now with the 80 hour every two weeks, you know, with four hours of overtime, it's 84 hours, actually, we break it out, you would expect four hours of overtime on every police officer plus some some occasional so those are the types of things that I think we should be trying to do as we go forward because all of these officers that he talked 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:05.960 about were and will complete training by the end of the year for the most part. 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.640 I mean, there may be a little bit into the early part of next year. 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:10.680 But for the most part, we should see a downward trend. 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:15.559 But I appreciate that, Chief, I really do. 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:17.160 OK, any other questions on fire? 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:22.079 Hold on, Stacy. 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:40.559 Yes. What we budgeted for 2024 and what we have used, we still have over $2,486,000 plus. 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:50.800 So, in December, you're telling me that money is just going back into the General Fund. 00:25:52.079 --> 00:26:07.000 Director, if it's not spent, just like your checking account, if you have a budget and 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:12.000 your ComEd bill comes in less, that money stays in that bank account, it doesn't go 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:13.000 anywhere else. 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.920 That's what happens here. 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:27.799 But the General Fund is not the FIRE's bank account. 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:33.759 The General Fund is comprised of many different departments, and it is all one. 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:40.480 It's not still gonna stay for, if FIRE doesn't spend it this year, it's, it's, that particular 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:46.000 Miller number from 2024 does not add on to the budget for 2025. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:49.000 And it's no longer FHIR's money? 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:53.440 No not unless FHIR sets a new budget just like we're doing right now and these are the 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:57.960 new numbers that he will work with next year. 00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:11.320 So if we budgeted, if we didn't even spend over $2 million of what we budgeted, why are 00:27:11.320 --> 00:27:18.920 we even still yet budgeting more? 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:20.519 Could I just address that? 00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:21.519 Manager Boyer. 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:27.880 Alderwoman, Stacy, are you referring to the 2024 year to date activity column? 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:35.400 Yes. We're in September. So I just said we had three more months. Yes and and it is 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:40.000 is likely that that we will have a it's likely we'll have a small surplus but it 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.279 won't be two million and change. So you think we're gonna have a two million 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:48.860 surplus? No no no no I'm saying that it'll be you know probably be a small 00:27:48.860 --> 00:27:49.860 Fowler. 00:27:49.860 --> 00:27:52.860 We're going to have a small surplus, but it's not going to be the budget minus the year-to-date 00:27:52.860 --> 00:27:53.860 activity. 00:27:53.860 --> 00:28:02.299 You've got to remember there's still a lot that goes out between now and the end of the 00:28:02.299 --> 00:28:03.299 year. 00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:04.299 Three months' worth. 00:28:04.299 --> 00:28:05.299 Plus the seven. 00:28:05.299 --> 00:28:06.299 Oh, I'm sorry. 00:28:06.299 --> 00:28:07.299 Director Richter. 00:28:07.299 --> 00:28:08.299 You're saying three months. 00:28:08.299 --> 00:28:09.299 And there's, it's probably more like four months. 00:28:09.299 --> 00:28:18.299 Director, you're saying three months and there's it's probably more like four 00:28:18.299 --> 00:28:26.380 months bills take a while to get here and get in the account and get paid we 00:28:26.380 --> 00:28:31.920 also I mean we're still getting bills in January and February that are for 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:37.500 something we bought in December so those go back to this budget if we bought it in 00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:41.220 In December, it gets applied to this fiscal year. 00:28:41.220 --> 00:28:44.779 So there's quite a lot of activity to still happen. 00:28:44.779 --> 00:28:46.740 And I just want to mention October 4th, 00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:52.539 we'll be making that pension contribution of 700,000. 00:28:52.539 --> 00:28:52.900 OK. 00:28:52.900 --> 00:28:54.620 Did you have anything to add, Chief? 00:28:54.620 --> 00:28:56.980 Just one last thing I want to belabor. 00:28:56.980 --> 00:29:00.220 But the way I look at it is the general fund is a bucket. 00:29:00.220 --> 00:29:03.220 And then this line represents what the fire department 00:29:03.220 --> 00:29:05.619 will use out of that bucket. 00:29:05.619 --> 00:29:11.860 So when we don't use it, that just stays in the bucket for police bucket and all the other 00:29:11.860 --> 00:29:14.299 departments that are general fund. 00:29:14.299 --> 00:29:18.900 If at the end of the year, if all the bills come in, we don't use it, we're not expecting 00:29:18.900 --> 00:29:22.019 that to be reinserted into our budget next year. 00:29:22.019 --> 00:29:28.980 We start all over again with a new line item, with a new budget for the next calendar year. 00:29:28.980 --> 00:29:54.980 So I understand what you're saying, and then I think Michelle is kind of hooping it all together as well based on her, her, you know, finance practices, but I look at how you do. Look at it as a pants pocket full of money. If we don't spend it, then that goes back to the family. Thank you. That helps. 00:29:54.980 --> 00:29:59.460 Okay with that I'd like to move on to the Fire Public Safety Fund. 00:30:03.300 --> 00:30:07.940 So this is a miscellaneous local sources of revenue. The source of funding for the 00:30:09.139 --> 00:30:12.420 Fire Public Safety Fund is mostly donations and memorials. 00:30:13.539 --> 00:30:19.619 So we have here supplies and education and the expense of these funds are public education 00:30:19.619 --> 00:30:26.980 Materials, Fire Prevention Month Items, and then Lindo Theater Handouts and Public Engagement 00:30:26.980 --> 00:30:27.539 Handouts. 00:30:27.539 --> 00:30:44.299 Do we have any questions on the Fire Public Safety Fund? 00:30:44.299 --> 00:30:51.940 Moving on, we have the Fire Improvement. 00:30:51.940 --> 00:30:53.659 There's two pages here in the budget. 00:30:53.659 --> 00:30:56.059 You'll see the one with the highlighted green column. 00:30:56.059 --> 00:31:01.980 itemizes quite a few of the expenditures that have been budgeted for this year. 00:31:03.019 --> 00:31:06.940 So the funding for the Fire Improvement Fund comes from the ambulance revenue and other small 00:31:06.940 --> 00:31:13.740 ambulance fees. Ambulance call revenue has been decreased to one million down from 1.2 budgeted 00:31:13.740 --> 00:31:21.740 for the 2024 year. This decrease is based on actual experience in 23. The accident, fire, 00:31:21.740 --> 00:31:27.980 Fire and Extrication, the City Bill's insurance companies only, not the residents for this 00:31:27.980 --> 00:31:30.019 account. 00:31:30.019 --> 00:31:33.379 Lift assistance revenue has decreased in this item. 00:31:33.379 --> 00:31:38.899 Lift assistance is received from nursing home facilities that call for assistance with residents 00:31:38.899 --> 00:31:41.700 that fell and they cannot get them up. 00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:47.099 And then ALS upgrade services, so there's a slight decrease there in the budget to align 00:31:47.099 --> 00:31:51.220 with actual receipts. 00:31:51.220 --> 00:31:55.859 We have the GEMT or the Ground Emergency Medical Transport. 00:31:56.299 --> 00:32:00.420 There was a small decrease from last year based on Medicaid transports. 00:32:00.859 --> 00:32:05.579 This program helps the city obtain the true costs for providing a Medicaid transport. 00:32:05.980 --> 00:32:09.180 However, half of the funds received are required to be returned 00:32:09.180 --> 00:32:12.019 to the Illinois Department of Health and Family Services. 00:32:12.579 --> 00:32:16.139 This semiannual payment is actually part of tonight's consent agenda. 00:32:16.139 --> 00:32:19.299 We'll be talking about or that is in the consent agenda. 00:32:19.299 --> 00:32:23.059 Apologize and then the expense items are detailed on the second page 00:32:27.099 --> 00:32:29.099 So just briefly going over those 00:32:29.779 --> 00:32:34.139 We're looking at this year. So we're looking at the highlighted in green section 00:32:34.819 --> 00:32:41.059 At main fire. We have a floor epoxy repair that needs to be done to the garage 00:32:41.379 --> 00:32:45.180 Essentially what we've got there is just a coating to put on 00:32:45.859 --> 00:32:48.220 preserve and protect it for years 00:32:48.220 --> 00:32:56.420 Sanders, also on the Park Station we're looking at a repair to the sewer service line coming 00:32:56.420 --> 00:33:05.659 out of the Parkside Fire Station going out to the City Interceptor. 00:33:05.659 --> 00:33:13.420 Also we're adding some security cameras, radios, again we discussed the GEMT accounting services 00:33:13.420 --> 00:33:22.940 Miller, Hose Nozzles, Turnout Gear for additional firemen, SCBAs, so that's self-contained breathing 00:33:22.940 --> 00:33:32.779 apparatuses, so an update there, and then an autoloader for the ambulance 3, it's to 00:33:32.779 --> 00:33:39.099 kind of save on people's backs when they have large patients, and then we have a couple 00:33:39.099 --> 00:33:44.940 of Other Items, Chief, if you want to discuss that, I'd be happy to. 00:33:44.940 --> 00:33:53.940 I know they're going to have some interest in the 7005 Replace Engine 1, so I know we've 00:33:53.940 --> 00:33:59.460 been fortunate enough to have your support to replace other aged equipment. 00:33:59.460 --> 00:34:06.619 So following our replacement schedule, which has kept us out of trouble going forward, 00:34:06.619 --> 00:34:13.019 The build time it takes to receive a new truck, if we placed an order today, we would not 00:34:13.019 --> 00:34:15.739 see that order for four years. 00:34:15.739 --> 00:34:21.940 So this engine that we're suggesting, considering replacing, is due for replacement in four 00:34:21.940 --> 00:34:22.940 years. 00:34:22.940 --> 00:34:24.679 We'll be fine for now. 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:31.219 But truly it takes four months to deliver an engine that's ordered today, and if we 00:34:31.219 --> 00:34:39.019 Don't Place an Order, those costs continue to rise exponentially over the period of time. 00:34:39.019 --> 00:34:45.860 So this dollar amount that is put there for consideration, they told me that there will 00:34:45.860 --> 00:34:53.139 be a price increase of 1.5% November 1st of this year, another 1.5 in February, May, August, 00:34:53.139 --> 00:35:02.139 in November of 25. So for a written order with no money down, this will lock in our 00:35:02.139 --> 00:35:08.360 cost at today's prices versus 4 years from now. Also puts us in that queue or on that 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:14.619 waiting list to get a vehicle built. So there's no jumping ahead of somebody else. There's 00:35:14.619 --> 00:35:22.980 no fast track. This is once you place an order, you get put in line and they are at 47 to 00:35:22.980 --> 00:35:29.940 to 49 months for delivery time. Plus we would be exposed to subsequent price increases. 00:35:29.940 --> 00:35:36.500 And they also go into greater detail for prepayment options. So if by chance there was enough 00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:45.019 money to prepay that fire engine 100 percent, that would reflect into $119,278 savings that 00:35:45.019 --> 00:35:47.179 would come off the purchase price. 00:35:47.179 --> 00:35:49.380 If we paid half of that amount, 00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:54.380 we would save $59,639,000. 00:35:54.619 --> 00:35:58.800 Or if there's the interest, the desire I should say, 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.960 place the order and then once it's complete 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:04.860 in four years from now, 00:36:04.860 --> 00:36:06.980 then just pay the whole balance in full. 00:36:10.139 --> 00:36:12.840 So that's something to consider. 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:22.199 again, we're looking more medium range planning, but trying to capitalize on today's costs. 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:26.199 So that's something that, you know, we would need to consider. But again, there's another 00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:30.360 proposal, another price increase coming November 1st. 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:36.199 Then the next item in there is replace shift commander vehicles. So what this is doing 00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:41.440 is we're replacing the oldest, oldest vehicle, it's a 2006 Trailblazer that was like the 00:36:41.440 --> 00:37:11.440 and the last trailblazer we replaced, the whole rear frame assembly is rusted out. So we would surplus that one out, and it is a reserve response vehicle. It has a light bar on it and radials and everything. That's what the shift commanders or the deputy or myself would use if our car was in for service or repairs. It's a reserve response vehicle. So being that it's rusted out, we were told a year ago, we'll do some temporary welding on it to plan on getting rid of that car. So then what we would 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:19.260 to do is downgrade the existing Shift Commanders Explorer into that reserve response vehicle 00:37:19.260 --> 00:37:26.820 status and replace that with another response vehicle. This time it would be a Tahoe similar 00:37:26.820 --> 00:37:34.119 to what I'm driving. They've outgrown this Explorer. There's not an empty seat in it, 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:40.599 so the passenger front has got a suitcase and a binder in it. The back seats have command 00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:46.960 Boards, and light, portable light fixtures. You open up the back and there's all the radios 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:51.639 and their turnout gear. They've outgrown that vehicle with the amount of equipment that 00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:59.319 they carry on it. So the cost for that vehicle and the upfitting, meaning lights and sirens 00:37:59.319 --> 00:38:07.159 and everything is coming in about $75,000. And that's through joint purchasing through 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:14.719 the Iowa Emergency Vehicle Provider, provider service that Public Works just received the 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:17.880 pickup truck from. 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:25.239 So clearly those are the biggest ticket items. 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:28.239 Any questions on? 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:29.239 Alderman Monroe. 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.320 Thank you, Alderman Shadle. 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.079 How old is engine one? 00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:36.360 Engine one's a 2010. 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:45.319 Okay. So right now it's 14. Four more years it'll be 18 years old. And we intend to keep 00:38:45.319 --> 00:38:50.800 that in reserve status in the event we need a second elevated stream. We're downgrading 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:56.279 that replacement engine. Right now it's a short ladder truck. This proposal would just 00:38:56.279 --> 00:38:58.279 and I will be the fire engine. No ladder. 00:39:06.279 --> 00:39:12.279 With that, I would like to move into TIFs. I will start with the first couple of TIFs. 00:39:12.279 --> 00:39:17.279 I will have a little bit more of an interactive with Director Duckman on this. 00:39:17.279 --> 00:39:25.279 We will start with the downtown TIF. You will notice here we have $581,000 budgeted. 00:39:25.279 --> 00:39:31.840 the idea behind this is we're going to be resurfacing the municipal lot near the 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:39.279 Stewart Center there on exchange in between Van Buren and in Chicago so this 00:39:39.279 --> 00:39:44.360 is really needs to be done we're going to be installing some EV chargers there 00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:49.159 and then we're going to resurface the and restripe the parking lot we've also 00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:56.159 We've also got downtown facades in this. Wayne, is there anything else on that? 00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:04.159 No, thank you. You covered the major item here. We have an $800,000 grant for EV chargers. 00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:10.159 And so, with that being said, right now we have not received the official grant agreement. 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:16.159 But we want to be ready. Staff wants to be ready as we start working with the Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity. 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:22.319 We want to be ready to have match funds available for these eight chargers. 00:40:22.319 --> 00:40:27.440 The large scope of the project would be a total of four, eight chargers, four at each 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:34.400 Chargers, four at each site. The one would be, as City Manager Boyer has already explained, 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:39.159 four of the Chargers would be at the lot on Douglas. It's right across from the Douglas 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.780 Center. And the other one would be northeast of the Lindo Theater. There's that large city 00:40:42.780 --> 00:40:48.119 lot there. And the idea is the Grant Manager has told us the funds are forthcoming. The 00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:53.519 agreement is forthcoming for 25. A couple thoughts there are we would need match funds 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:59.000 and then we would also since the equipment would already be staged there it would be a 00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:04.360 perfect opportunity to save some funding and saying hey you know the grant contemplates 00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:09.519 paving at the location of the chargers but if the equipment is there we would like to 00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:14.800 budget have the opportunity to pave the rest of the lots which are in bad shape so that's 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:19.720 the reason that line item is higher this year. 00:41:19.720 --> 00:41:25.240 There was one request if we could do something with a little more, like a little bit of landscaping 00:41:25.240 --> 00:41:26.240 in the corners. 00:41:26.240 --> 00:41:33.159 One of the things as you guys move forward with design, that was a request that I had. 00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:34.159 Sounds good. 00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:39.840 Okay, with that, I'd like to move on to the Land Road TIF. 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:45.159 This is one of the TIF districts that's performing. 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:49.340 Currently we have, and I think we've discussed this in the past, but we have an inverted 00:41:49.340 --> 00:41:55.180 section of a large section of the collection main that runs on the east 00:41:55.180 --> 00:42:01.220 side of the landfill presents a concern for bottlenecking and capacity and we 00:42:01.220 --> 00:42:05.579 would we are planning to put in a lift station at Walnut Road and Lamb and that 00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:12.780 should properly convey the waste from our largest businesses in town to the 00:42:12.780 --> 00:42:17.619 interceptor just past the creek on Walnut Road so that's what you're seeing 00:42:17.619 --> 00:42:30.039 in that item there okay so what was budgeted for 2024 compared to what was 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:39.659 used yes so I can I can answer that as well see 2024 so last year what we had 00:42:39.659 --> 00:42:43.139 budgeted or this current year we contemplated also having the lift 00:42:43.139 --> 00:42:49.740 Station Builds and it's not it's not going to be we're not we don't anticipate 00:42:49.740 --> 00:42:55.440 bringing forward the proposal for this year for the lift station however we do 00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:00.099 believe it to be a worthwhile project we do want to move forward with it as it 00:43:00.099 --> 00:43:05.420 our businesses in this TIF district could certainly use the help with 00:43:05.420 --> 00:43:10.260 disposal of waste snack King's one that we're talking about basically using an 00:43:10.260 --> 00:43:15.360 Inverted Pipe. So, you have a pipe section that's actually has to push some of the 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:21.780 sewage up uphill. So, and that happens in communities. It's more common than 00:43:21.780 --> 00:43:25.900 you would think. And when that happens, we're looking to improve our 00:43:25.900 --> 00:43:31.699 infrastructure in this TIF district to basically motivate businesses, more 00:43:31.699 --> 00:43:36.699 businesses to come. And so, we wanted, we budgeted it, we expected it, we were 00:43:36.699 --> 00:43:40.059 hoping that it would happen this year and now that it didn't happen, we have to 00:43:40.059 --> 00:43:44.860 budget for it or we're budgeting for it staff is proposing to budget for this 00:43:44.860 --> 00:43:51.099 lift station in 2025 and if we don't budget for it and there is an issue with 00:43:51.099 --> 00:43:55.539 the lift station etc then I would be coming back saying hey we were trying to 00:43:55.539 --> 00:44:03.740 rebudget the tip district to incorporate the funds for this lift station so so 00:44:03.740 --> 00:44:12.619 So this $2 million that we didn't spend goes back into the Lamb Road TIF? 00:44:12.619 --> 00:44:18.619 The Lamb Road TIF district, those funds are monitored and those funds stay in this. 00:44:18.619 --> 00:44:19.619 This is a separate fund. 00:44:19.619 --> 00:44:21.380 This is not a general fund. 00:44:21.380 --> 00:44:23.599 So we were talking earlier about the general fund. 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:29.220 TIF district funds stay in their specific fund, separate fund from the general fund. 00:44:29.220 --> 00:44:30.940 That's a TIF district. 00:44:30.940 --> 00:44:40.300 That's the Lamb Road TIP District Fund. 00:44:40.300 --> 00:44:51.539 So if it did carry over, wouldn't property taxes go down? 00:44:51.539 --> 00:44:52.539 That's different. 00:44:52.539 --> 00:44:59.659 So the assessment is, our tax assessor does the assessment and then it's not, and then 00:44:59.659 --> 00:45:02.820 We have a levy, which that ordinance is forthcoming once we get our budget. 00:45:02.820 --> 00:45:07.619 So what you're saying is, if we don't spend the TIF funds, should that lower somebody's 00:45:07.619 --> 00:45:08.740 property taxes? 00:45:08.740 --> 00:45:12.700 And that's, those are not, that's not correlated, they're not connected. 00:45:12.700 --> 00:45:19.579 No, I'm saying, if the two million transferred to the next year, and instead of getting three 00:45:19.579 --> 00:45:31.539 3 million because we already got two, only taking out one, wouldn't the taxes go down? 00:45:31.539 --> 00:45:35.940 I think we're getting confused about property taxes and what's in this fund. 00:45:35.940 --> 00:45:41.180 So you see, Mike, I'm not, I'm just saying I think we're confusing that because there's 00:45:41.180 --> 00:45:47.300 monies, there's revenue going in, you see the property taxes, that's generated off of 00:45:47.300 --> 00:45:48.300 an increment. 00:45:48.300 --> 00:45:58.300 Basically, we've set up this TIF district 20-something years ago, and when this was created, all the properties there had a TIF base that was created. 00:45:58.300 --> 00:46:09.300 So essentially, what's happening in the Lamb Road TIF is, anytime the property tax assessment and any of the taxes tied to the assessment over a certain base value gets put into this fund. 00:46:09.300 --> 00:46:24.300 So, whether or not we're spending that money, it's that revenue source at the top there, property taxes, that's coming in based on, you know, that money keeps coming, whether we spend it out of that fund or not. 00:46:24.300 --> 00:46:54.300 Now, it would be awesome because if we are spending it and we're getting redevelopment agreements and we get this infrastructure passed, that revenue number should increase because the idea of a TIF district is you're spending money on economic development that's actually going to drive that property tax number up to put more money to spend on businesses and infrastructure. So if we spend it, in theory, the revenue should go up. So we want to spend it, essentially. We want to spend it. 00:46:54.300 --> 00:46:58.059 App for Economic Development, so businesses come here and drive that property tax number up. 00:47:03.900 --> 00:47:09.980 Okay, with that I'd like to move on to the West Avenue TIF, and I am going to yield to or I'm 00:47:09.980 --> 00:47:16.300 going to yield my time here to to Director Duckman on the West Avenue TIF, Richard Hills TIF, and the 00:47:16.300 --> 00:47:27.579 on these three here. So West Avenue TIF, you're going to see an increase here in site improvement 00:47:27.579 --> 00:47:33.500 for the West Avenue TIF, a fairly significant number from last year. And I'm working with 00:47:33.500 --> 00:47:38.440 a few developers right now that are looking to expand their businesses and or bring in 00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:47.280 New Businesses, and so under the site improvement of this budget, fingers are crossed that I 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:52.599 will be coming in 2025 with an actual redevelopment agreement that's working with a business presenting 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:57.880 it to council to say city staff is looking to work on a redevelopment agreement, spend 00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:03.860 X amount of dollars to expand a business and bring X amount of jobs to the city of Freeport. 00:48:03.860 --> 00:48:09.059 So that's the reason you're going to see a significantly higher increase here in site 00:48:09.059 --> 00:48:19.140 improvement is because I'm working with a few developers on potential redevelopment agreements. 00:48:19.140 --> 00:48:23.099 Are these local developers or are they from outside the area? 00:48:23.099 --> 00:48:26.780 One of them is, well let me take that back. 00:48:26.780 --> 00:48:31.539 The two that I'm working with now are local. 00:48:31.539 --> 00:48:39.539 The two that I'm working with now are local, and one of them is regional, meaning Midwest. 00:48:39.539 --> 00:48:48.780 Okay, and moving on to the Burchard Hills TIF, again, this particular one is primarily 00:48:48.780 --> 00:48:52.780 paying on various previously-done agreements, but Wayne, if you would? 00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:59.980 Sure, this is one of our smaller TIF districts, geographically, which makes sense geographically, 00:48:59.980 --> 00:49:03.779 as well as funding sources. 00:49:03.779 --> 00:49:07.380 So what we have here is there's not much of a change 00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:08.260 from the prior year. 00:49:08.260 --> 00:49:12.019 And much of what we have here is we have a redevelopment 00:49:12.019 --> 00:49:16.940 agreement with FHN that takes up most of the funding 00:49:16.940 --> 00:49:18.139 for this TIP district. 00:49:22.420 --> 00:49:25.539 OK, on the Meadows TIP. 00:49:25.539 --> 00:49:29.539 Okay, so Meadows tip, similar situation here. 00:49:31.980 --> 00:49:36.980 One, two developers here, one regional, Midwest, 00:49:37.579 --> 00:49:42.579 and one local are looking to invest in the Meadows 00:49:43.340 --> 00:49:47.019 working on two redevelopment agreements 00:49:47.019 --> 00:49:50.280 that I would like to present to council. 00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.559 And I believe, and that's why I'm adding some extra money 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:54.180 here to cite improvement and as I'm working 00:49:54.180 --> 00:49:58.820 with a few developers and budgeting for this site 00:49:58.820 --> 00:50:00.980 improvement redevelopment agreement 00:50:00.980 --> 00:50:02.300 would be beneficial to the city. 00:50:02.300 --> 00:50:09.380 So hopeful to present those in 2025. 00:50:09.380 --> 00:50:12.780 OK, on the special projects or the projects fund, 00:50:12.780 --> 00:50:16.539 next one there, yeah, again, we're 00:50:16.539 --> 00:50:22.699 budgeting $20,000 for sidewalk replacement for 2025. 00:50:22.699 --> 00:50:27.380 So that's the extent of the projects fund. 00:50:27.380 --> 00:50:32.500 the extent of the projects fund. So at this point, do we have any questions? 00:50:32.500 --> 00:50:33.700 What was the sidewalk? 00:50:36.019 --> 00:50:37.380 6-10-49. 00:50:40.740 --> 00:50:47.220 So every year we have basically a sidewalk budget for individuals get a matching grant from the 00:50:47.220 --> 00:50:52.579 city to replace your sidewalk since in the city of Freeport the sidewalk belongs to the property 00:50:52.579 --> 00:50:56.740 owner. So we've been doing this for a number of years and we're going to continue doing that. 00:50:57.380 --> 00:51:06.579 Go ahead. 00:51:06.579 --> 00:51:07.579 Mr. Steele. 00:51:07.579 --> 00:51:12.900 Yeah, the sidewalk program for 2024 is up to the amount that's budgeted. 00:51:12.900 --> 00:51:16.740 We do remove and replace sidewalk for residents. 00:51:16.740 --> 00:51:19.800 The city will remove the sidewalk. 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:21.380 People have to apply and be approved. 00:51:21.380 --> 00:51:27.019 But if they approve, if they apply and they're approved, the city will go in and remove the 00:51:27.019 --> 00:51:32.460 and the sidewalk at no cost to the owner and then I believe we reimburse $1.25 per square 00:51:32.460 --> 00:51:36.940 foot on their cost. They have to turn over their invoice, we go out, it has to be built 00:51:36.940 --> 00:51:41.420 to city codes or there's no reimbursement. But we've had quite a bit of interest in that 00:51:41.420 --> 00:51:47.840 program this year and really all over the city people have applied for it and then between 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:54.140 myself and Pat Ingram we go out and administer the program. It's nice. We usually don't 00:51:54.140 --> 00:51:59.140 Expand all the funds annually but it's a nice little program for people and we 00:51:59.140 --> 00:52:02.619 only do it for people that are going to replace their whole sidewalk. We don't do 00:52:02.619 --> 00:52:10.180 it for patching. So did we do that this year? Yes. We had this program this year? 00:52:10.180 --> 00:52:17.619 Yep. Did we have it last year? Mm-hmm. How many years have we had this program? 2017, 00:52:17.619 --> 00:52:26.019 2018. Yeah at least five years, six years. I believe when we did the budget cut for 00:52:26.019 --> 00:52:30.240 COVID Michelle when we took a million out of the budget did we not do it that 00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:36.820 one year I think. I agree with that but I think it's been around as long as I've 00:52:36.820 --> 00:52:44.980 been here and I've been here ten years or nine. How do they find out about this? 00:52:44.980 --> 00:52:49.900 about qualifying all they have to do is call Public Works and say they're 00:52:49.900 --> 00:52:52.980 interested in the remove and replace program I believe it was on the city's 00:52:52.980 --> 00:52:59.200 website and then we meet with them and we see if they qualify we have them fill 00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:03.820 out a form and then if there's money left we do it if there's no money left 00:53:03.820 --> 00:53:07.740 in the budget for the year then we tell them that they can apply for next year 00:53:07.740 --> 00:53:11.220 but we again we only do it on somebody that's going to replace all of their 00:53:11.220 --> 00:53:14.940 sidewalk we don't do it for eight foot of patching or something like that it's 00:53:14.940 --> 00:53:44.940 Fowler, Mayor, 00:53:44.940 --> 00:53:56.940 and I have been informed, well probably have been informed, but it's something that is not something they retained throughout the year. So it would be nice to be able to update that information. 00:53:56.940 --> 00:53:57.940 Manager Boyer. 00:53:57.940 --> 00:54:13.940 Alderman Sanders, this is a match, so it's not a complete replacement cost, it's a match. So they have to be, you know, they have to basically they get a reduction, they get some free work out of it, you know, in terms of sidewalk removal, but it's not a complete replacement. 00:54:13.940 --> 00:54:43.940 and the city will provide them with the labor and material no they have to hire a contractor they get an invoice they agree to do it to city codes and then they put it in and then our first we remove it the city will remove it really at no cost and then we will reimburse them a dollar twenty-five dollars and then we'll do it again and then we'll do it again and then we'll do it again 00:54:43.940 --> 00:54:50.539 5 per square, which is not the full cost of replacement. Usually that's maybe 20% of the cost. 00:54:50.539 --> 00:54:53.539 Right. Okay. All right. Thank you. 00:54:53.539 --> 00:54:56.539 Stacy, did you have something else? 00:54:58.539 --> 00:55:01.539 Well, that's all I've got for you. 00:55:01.539 --> 00:55:06.539 Thank you. We have any other discussion? 00:55:13.940 --> 00:55:27.860 Yeah he removed that for this evening. We have enough time for public comments. Three minutes 00:55:27.860 --> 00:55:39.340 if we have anybody that has any comments on tonight. Seeing none I would take a motion 00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:40.340 for adjournment. 00:55:40.340 --> 00:55:41.340 So moved. 00:55:41.340 --> 00:55:49.340 Parker, Motion Parker, Second Klemm, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? Nay.