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Good evening. Justin, could you please give the invocation this evening?

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Good evening, Madam Mayor, Council, and all the guests. Would you please pray with me?

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Almighty God, to you, all hearts are an open book.

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You know not only our actions but the thoughts and the intentions of our hearts.

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You made us to love you, to love our neighbors

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as ourselves. You've created us with wisdom

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and justice and goodness and so I pray tonight that you would

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persuade us and enable us and strengthen

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all of us here tonight to do justly,

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to love mercy and to walk humbly with you, help us to turn away from what is evil and choose against

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what is insincere, unhelpful, and dishonest. We thank you for showing your goodness and mercy

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every day in our lives and in this city. Lord, we pray that you would show your wisdom in the work

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of this council, of our citizens, pray that you would enable each one here in whatever capacity

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and

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the

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community they serve to discern their call to honor you above all others and to put interests of others ahead of their own.

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Lord, we thank you for this country, for the United States of America, for the freedoms that we enjoy.

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We thank you for every woman and man whom you have gifted and appointed to serve our community and ask for your grace to help them to have the understanding and ability to make decisions that would encourage public trust and promote the highest values of good societies.

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and others.

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May it be true of us that we plan good rather than evil, justice and peace rather than violence.

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May Freeport be a place where people are committed to live in good and right relationship with

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each other.

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A place where we plan to do good rather than evil, to seek self-sacrifice and peace rather

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Other than selfishness and conflict, all of which can only be by your grace, and so we

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ask in your name who freely gave yourself for us, amen.

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Thank you.

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So now we'll officially call this meeting to order.

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Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll?

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Mayor Miller?

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Here.

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Alderpersons, Klemm?

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Here.

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Monroe?

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Whoa, excuse me.

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Johnson?

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Here.

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Simmons?

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Here.

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Stacy? Here. Shadle? Here. Sanders? Here. And Sellers? Here. If you could please stand for the Pledge of

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Allegiance led by Alderman Johnson.

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Item number one is the approval of the agenda. Is there such a motion? So moved. Second.

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Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? That motion passes. Item number two is public comment. We have a few signed in.

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Alfreida Schaefer. You can come to the microphone and then if you can state your

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name that would be great. Hello, good evening. My name is Alfreida Schaefer. I

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I actually wanted to speak on item number, I believe it's eight, and the reason why it's important to me is because I actually own property in the Fifth Ward, and Miss Stacy has brought to her attention about an issue that I was having with my property.

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I am a black young lady who was very excited about receiving the opportunity to purchase property in Freeport.

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They did the seal bits. I was able to purchase a lot. It had a garage attached to it.

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The structure is fine. The sound is strong.

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During this period of time, actually before I purchased it, I talked to Wayne Duckman concerning it.

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He explained to me at the time that I needed to have the idea is to build a home.

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So we went through a couple of things, a couple of suggestions of things that I can do.

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However, I ended up making a personal garden out there.

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During this period of time, I was approached three different times.

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My permit was unapproved due to one time it was a $210 fine.

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Fowler, and they denied my permit for my license of a major electric company in Freeport and

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I was told by him to contact and they said that it was a $210 fine prior to me taking

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residence of the property and then the second time they told me that I could come up and

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pick up the money that it was some type of issue in the computer.

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So I wasn't able to, they refunded the money and said that I still couldn't get the permit.

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So I contact Wayne at that time and he explained to me that because I didn't have a home on

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my lot that I was not able to get existing electricity on it, which it hid existing electricity

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because it had switches and plugs and everything else in the garage.

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So at the time I was told to contact Ms. Stacy.

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I was told to have my alderman contact him.

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and so I just want to say that I think it is very important because only the ones that are

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part of that district knows what's going on and she didn't hesitate.

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She helped me out a lot.

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She talked to him.

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She was able to find out some very important information for me.

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She came over to my lot to actually see me water in my garden.

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She did not, you know, go by what was said.

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She actually came to actually investigate on her own on both ends and I just really do

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I do think that it's very important that we look at those things because right now it's like with me being a black woman it was fine.

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Thank you Ms. Shaffer, your time has expired.

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Okay. Thank you.

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And if there are any other public comments, remember they have to be on agenda items.

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The next one is Akia Sanders.

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I want to touch on item number six and eight.

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was actually the one that directed Frieda to contact the Alderman in that area.

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I want to say that it's important for our Alderman to be able to speak out and to, without

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being fined, without being put in backs against the wall, and we are in that ward.

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So why would it be important, or why would it not be important for them to be able to

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speak, put things on the agenda, because the situation that happened without Frieda was,

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the building inspector told her that it was nothing in the ordinance, there was nothing

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Riddon, Down to where she couldn't do what she was asking to do.

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And then in return, after being denied a permit, they actually said to Miss Stacy that we asked

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to buy her lot.

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One thing I want you all to know is that we are hip to whatever is going on behind these

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doors.

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You guys are, community development is the main one.

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He is basically denying permits to gain access to the property over there.

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That's how we feel.

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Y'all have put blocks on the state or on the county tax sale, you're showing your hand,

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showing your hand, we not gonna give up, she still, and if this, if she's not able to get

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her permit after going through all of the legal things, that is opening the city for

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another lawsuit, she's supposed to be able to go to her Alderman and put things on the

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agenda that a fifth ward, a third ward cares about, there's not things happening everywhere,

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and the rest of the people in the room.

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So, the only thing I see is you guys with your neighborhood watch.

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That's like an activity to some of y'all.

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There's actually things happening in our ward that we need our Aldermen to be able to address.

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And don't think that we don't know that you guys are packed up in here like nerds versus, or jocks versus the geeks.

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We know that if y'all get five people or whatever y'all got going on trying to pack up and hush them,

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we know that we're not going to be able to account on our Aldermen.

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and their ability to help their own people and I don't know what's great about that.

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This shouldn't even be on the agenda to even try to find them.

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That's like freedom of speech.

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We need to start doing research.

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Some of this stuff should be violating our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

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It's shameful that you guys are actually trying to silence freedom of speech.

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Beach, Gary Gordon. Good evening, everybody. I'm speaking on Ordinance 2025-37. I get it.

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I know majority rules. He, she, they who have the majority can pretty much do whatever they want.

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And that's fine when you're making a softball team lineup for deciding when to go for dinner.

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Or when you've discussed something again and again and again and you finally come to a decision where you have to make a vote on it.

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I understand that.

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But I think you have to realize, you know, what's the best thing for the 23,000 members

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of this community? If there is going to be elimination of being able to hear from those

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voices that aren't in the majority, you know, is that really good for the whole community?

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What about the voices of those who elected somebody to represent them and their interests?

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Do those voices suddenly get lost?

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You know, I live in a part of the city where the majority rules.

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But despite being in that location,

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I believe that Ordinance 37 is wrong. You have to realize

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this community is like a body. If part of the body

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is hurting or sick or injured, the majority of the body can't just say,

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ah, we're not interested. If you don't count, we don't need you to make a decision.

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This community of ours has some broken, injured, and hurting parts, and by bringing healing and attention to the broken parts, the whole community benefits.

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Ignore an injury or illness long enough and it usually gets worse.

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Your desire to streamline, work, or punish dissenting voices, or even eliminate them altogether, is likely possible tonight.

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I can understand you guys have the majority.

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Purti, but in your hearts. I think some of you know in your heart that it's the wrong

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thing to do. It would be a courageous thing for you to vote no on that ordinance. And we

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always remember that absolute power eventually does corrupt. Thank you.

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Pearson. Wendy Pearson. Good evening, the City of Freeport. My name is Wendy Pearson. I reside at 1323 South Chicago Avenue. I'm here to speak on six and eight. And basically what I have to say, both of them evolve in together.

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I am in totally agreement with the young man who just left this podium.

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Those of us that live in the fifth ward, that live in the third ward, that lives in the wards that you guys are trying to silence,

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you need to understand something. We voted them in. They're our voice.

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We should make the determination as to what they speak on, not any of you.

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The fact of the matter is, in order for them to speak two times and you silence them for the third time

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without any true explanation as to why, other than you want to control what is happening

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in this city.

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And if you haven't realized at this point, you're not in control.

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The city and the people are speaking.

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The other day, 400, 500 plus Freeport residents marched against what is happening in this

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country and in this town.

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and all of you who sit under the mega category need to understand that none of us are going

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to stop this battle.

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We're not going to stop fighting.

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We've been fighting for too long.

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If you understand that everything that you do affects everyone in this community, then

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your heart should tell you that you need to do the right thing, and the right thing is

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not to try to silence those individuals who are our voices that we voted in, and Klemm,

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some of us voted for you.

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So the bottom line is you need to understand that silencing us isn't going to stop us.

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You will have people standing out there, 400 plus, outside of your doors, waiting for you

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to not sneak out the back door because you're going to have to deal with your constituents.

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Every last one of us, the ones of us that live on the east side, the ones of us that

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live on the west side, those of us that live on the other side of town, those who live

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and others.

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I want you to know that there are some of us who live in the areas where they're not being

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affected or going to rise up and they're going to speak and they're going to demand justice

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and some of you, believe it or not, are not going to be sitting in those seats the next

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four years because you got in this town.

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But believe you me, there are some of us that are going to walk the streets and knock every

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door in this town exposing the dirt and the dust that has been pushed under the rug for

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many years.

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Be careful how you treat our people. Be careful how you treat the people of Freeport. Be careful

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how you treat our children because those same people are going to be sitting in those seats

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determining your life, your lifestyle, your livelihood, your whole environment is going

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to be determined by people that are going to look after you, hopefully. But when they

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They start to remember history.

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You will be the last ones they think of.

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Thank you, Wendy.

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Your time has expired.

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Understand.

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Be careful how you treat our people.

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Move on to item number three, which is the consent agenda.

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The consent agenda is considered to be routine in nature and acted as one motion unless a

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The consent agenda consists of approving to receive and place on file the board and commission

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minutes from the Zoning Board of Appeals dated May 1, 2025, the building permit and Fire

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Department reports May 2025, the finance bills payable in the total of $1,125,210.63, and

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The approval of payroll for pay period ending May 31st, 2025 in the total of $673,289.80.

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Is there a motion to approve?

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So moved.

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Second.

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We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers.

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Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll?

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Johnson?

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Yeah, aye.

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Simmons?

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Aye.

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Parker?

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Aye.

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Stacy?

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Aye.

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Shadle?

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Aye. And Klemm? Aye. The motion passes 8 to 0. Item number four is an appointment. Could you please read this?

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Evelyn Curry to the Board of Fire and Police Commission through April 30th, 2028. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Second.

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We have a motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle, Madam Clerk, can we do a, I'm sorry, discussion?

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Okay, so all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? That motion passes 8-0. Item number 5 is the second reading of ordinance 2025-36.

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6, could you please read this?

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Ordinance amending Chapter 1060, Waste and Recycling Collection and Disposal, Section

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1060.04, regarding garbage fees.

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Thank you.

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Elizabeth?

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Oh no, I'm sorry, I wrote the wrong one, Director Richter.

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Thank you, Your Honor.

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So this is the second reading of this ordinance.

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If you recall from our last council meeting, I read from the memo that last year the City

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who voted to suspend the annual increase for trash pickup

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that normally takes effect on July 1st.

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We kept the same rate.

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We did not change it.

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At this time, the ordinances that has been suggested

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will adjust those rates.

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We can't keep them the same rate every year.

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Our contract was for 10 years.

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So we are adjusting the rates from now

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until the end of that contract.

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There's a chart on my memo

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indicating what those rates would be.

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They are still a little bit below each year

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than what the rates were in the previous ordinance.

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So it is finance department's recommendation

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for council to pass the ordinance.

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Discussion.

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Alderman Stacey.

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and where would this increase of monies be placed?

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Director, Director.

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There is a specific fund only for trash.

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So any of the money that is collected for trash

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goes into the Health and Environmental Fund.

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That's trash.

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So we collect the money there.

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We pay the bill to the haulers from there.

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We also pay Refresh Freeport out of there.

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We also have, you know, any bad debt that I write off,

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you know, that we bring to council every year.

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We bring that in November, December.

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The bad, any people that didn't pay their water bills,

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or I'm sorry, strike that, trash, garbage,

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you know, when we do the write-offs from seven years ago,

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there's a little bit of piece of that

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that'll go through that fund as well.

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So it's just that fund.

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That's where the money goes.

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Alderman, Sanders?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. How did you come up with the scale for increase and decrease? What's your mechanism that creates that?

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So we have to be able to cover these bills.

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I understand that, but I'm trying to figure out how are you implementing this scale for adjustments, and what percentage, at what percentage are you doing that at,

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and what kind of scale that you're using to make these kinds of increases on any item that you deem that feels necessary, where you're getting this information and how you're disseminating it to the public because they need to know exactly why there are water bills and there are light bills and there are garbage bills and everything that is affected by what we do.

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We are doing anything to notify people that these increases are taking effect because of

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this reason? And I understand we have reserves and things to pay bills and things like that,

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but when you see things like that that we need to vote on, the people needs to be informed

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and why are we increasing anything and what creates that mechanism that causes that?

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Director, back to your response.

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So actually I'm not increasing.

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I am decreasing the rate that is in the ordinance right now.

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So I'm making it less according to the chart that's on the memo.

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So in order to come up with these rates that I'm proposing, I had to project out the next

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five years of expenses in this fund and then figure out how many people are paying for

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trash charges in the City of Freeport and come up with a rate.

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So, when I put the expenses together, so those, the budget for 2026, 2027, 2028 is not finalized, we aren't even there, I'm projecting and I conferred with the City Manager, how often are we going to do refresh Freeport, are we doing it every day or every year, every month, that was the plan, so for the five years I projected that, we're talking about electronics recycling,

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How often are we going to do that? Are we going to do that every year or are we going to do that every other year?

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So I discussed that with him. I think there's been discussions about a tire, possibly, thing about bringing in tires as well on a different date.

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So how often are we going to do that? So I had to project all that out and figure out how much the fund would need in order to be sustainable.

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and I did that and I was able to reduce the amounts that were in the ordinance

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previously. Thank you, Director, for your efficiency. Any other, let me see if anybody

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else has one time, any other discussions? Alderman Sanders? Yeah, well I understand

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you're saying you're trying to come up with the solution for that. I'm just

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and others.

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Just a general paraphrase in what you are saying, that you are trying to come up with

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a solution, but who is helping you with this solution? Who are the party people that helps

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you determine what you feel? Because you can't base anything based on what you feel. It has

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has to be some kind of focus, a forecast on each thing that you're implementing or want

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to implement. And we as the public, the taxpayers of these dollars that you're suggesting that

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should be increased, but I understand you saying we're not meeting the standard right

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and others.

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We have not brought it up to a certain level within the ordinance to even talk about this

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issue.

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Is that what we're implying here?

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If that is the case, we need to know how you're making these adjustments with the increases

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and how you're coming about it.

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I know I sound redundant right about now, but I'm not trying to be, but the thing about

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and others.

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I'd like for the general public to be notified and have complete clarity of what the process

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of how we got to where we're going, how we're getting to this particular area of increase

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because it's affecting people.

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When we do things like that and it's based upon feelings, we need more than just one

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individual making that decision.

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and I like to know who are the other party officials that is looking at what you're making

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decisions on.

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Attorney Zito.

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So maybe I can try to help clarify.

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So our current garbage rates that get charged to the citizens, it's set forth in an ordinance

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and that's a set dollar amount.

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What Director Rector has determined in looking at the expenses is that we're collecting more

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So that's the ordinance that's before you guys right now. If you approve it, then the rates will go down as to what's being charged for garbage to the citizens.

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Can I make one clear?

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Sure.

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So when we say down, that is not down, like today's rate down, we are just bringing down what is in the ordinance, so it's telling me to adjust it up to say 20, I'm just using round numbers.

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The ordinance says July 1st of this year, I need to make it $26. I'm saying, no, it can be $25.5. You know, it's just, it's proportionately reduced.

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Alderman, Stacy Is some of this money going to the expense

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of the every first Saturday of the month where people could go dump stuff?

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This money is going toward that?

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Yes, it is.

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Isn't it also true that a lot of contractors are taking advantage and dumping their stuff

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more so than a lot of tons is being weighed?

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But I don't know how much of it is the citizens of Freeport compared to contractor and business

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people dumping their products, dear?

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To my knowledge, it has been most- One second, one second. Attorney, can you address him?

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Just real quick. For the news media, we're getting messages that where you're standing is blocking the YouTube video people from being able to see who's speaking.

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Certainly, you're allowed to be here if we could just have you shift behind the table where you can still get a view, but not blocking the YouTube people. Thanks. No, no worries.

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To my knowledge, the Refresh Freeport has been mostly residential stuff and Gills has been managing it, watching for a lot of commercial debris or other things so to my knowledge it's been very successful and we have not been reported back that it's been crazy and actually there's been a ton of mattresses that have been brought in through Refresh Freeport which is nice to see.

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So would you say there is some commercial debris?

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if it is it hasn't been noticeable to the point that Gills has said anything about

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it which which they would because the tonnage has been way more than was

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anticipated and and so I think that they would reject those types of loads so I

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don't believe it's been a lot of construction debris period it's been a

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lot of household debris that people don't seem to have an avenue to get rid of

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inf.

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Stuff that doesn't fit in your garbage can.

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Any other discussion?

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I'm just going to comment.

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Actually Refresh Freeport has been so successful.

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I believe the last couple Saturdays

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they've had to turn cars away because there

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was a line well beyond the time limits to get in.

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If there is no further discussion,

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Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

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Johnson.

00:29:29.540 --> 00:29:30.300
Yes.

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Simmons, Parker, Stacy, Shadle, Sanders, Sellers, and Klemm. The ordinance is adopted 8-0.

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Item number 6 is the second reading of Ordinance 2025-37. Could you please read this?

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House, Amending Chapter 220, Council, Section 22010, Rules of Council, and Section 220.

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of Council and Section 220-11 Council Committees.

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Thank you.

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Attorney Sito.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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So, this is up for second reading as well at the last City Council meeting.

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I went over the memo and went over all the proposed changes to the Rules of Council ordinance.

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I won't bore you by rereading it again, but at the last Council meeting Alderman Johnson

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did make a motion to amend section 220.10 sub paragraph 29 which deals with placing items

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on the agenda.

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As proposed, there was a change that said that it would require a majority of the aldermen

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to place an item on the agenda.

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Johnson proposed to change that language to say that two Aldermen could still place an

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item on the agenda provided that they provide a memo that kind of explained the reason for

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the agenda item.

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At that meeting the motion by Alderman Johnson was made and seconded and then Alderman Simmons

00:31:09.560 --> 00:31:14.600
made a motion to refer that motion to the Committee of the Whole last week.

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So at the Committee of the Whole last week, that item, that motion of Alderman Johnson's

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was discussed in further detail.

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So where we're at as far as tonight is, is that what's on the floor before you would

00:31:26.500 --> 00:31:34.440
be Alderman Johnson's motion to change the language of subparagraph 29 to reflect that

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two Aldermen could still place an item on the agenda provided they gave a memo with

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that agenda item.

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So procedurally that's where at the discussion stage of that motion.

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Any further discussion on that amendment?

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Alderman Sellers.

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And I think that she's doing it, nobody is trying to stop anyone from talking.

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It's just that we just would like to know when you do have something on the agenda,

00:32:05.280 --> 00:32:06.760
we know what it's about.

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and some of the things that was on the agenda last week were mainly just questions and those are things that you can just go in and ask those questions.

00:32:16.760 --> 00:32:22.760
Nobody is trying to stop anyone from talking and speaking at the meetings.

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No one is.

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I just want to remind the public that there will be silence.

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This is your warning.

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So please don't interrupt again.

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Alderman Sellers, were you finished? Yes. Alderman Sanders? Well, yeah, it does suppress Council from speaking. If you're trying to make modifications where the Council and the Mayor, because no one defined that part to me, I understand the Council has the right to conduct quorum's, but I didn't know if it was...

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in this well I'm talking on portion to the to the next portion because right now

00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.400
we're just on the amendment of two aldermen with supporting document well

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what I'm saying is to support this document even with the two aldermen yeah

00:33:19.760 --> 00:33:24.480
it's just there's no nothing to do with quorum at this point that's you can talk

00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.520
about after we get done with this amendment portion does that make sense

00:33:27.520 --> 00:33:33.880
well I thought there was relatively speaking of the same issue no okay it's

00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:39.320
it's just about changing the language to be two aldermen with supporting documents such as a memo

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that's what's on the floor right now that's the motion that's on the floor was this amendment

00:33:47.080 --> 00:33:52.280
to change it to where two aldermen plus a memo would be able to put something on the agenda now

00:33:52.280 --> 00:33:58.040
once we get done dealing with that issue then we can then the whole ordinance is back on the floor

00:33:58.040 --> 00:34:02.120
and you can people whoever can bring up any other topics regarding this ordinance that they want to

00:34:02.120 --> 00:34:06.120
and John, and then I'm going to talk about. So is there any other discussion on this amendment? Alderman, Simmons?

00:34:06.120 --> 00:34:17.120
So the way this reads though is if the amendment was discussed and we are voting on the original changes including the amendment.

00:34:17.120 --> 00:34:30.120
Right now what's on the floor is just Alderman Johnson's motion there. And if that's approved, then I would go and rewrite the ordinance to include that language.

00:34:30.120 --> 00:34:33.300
Thomas, and Michael, all of his work is in the same language.

00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:36.640
So what you see in the ordinance right now is the original from

00:34:36.640 --> 00:34:39.760
first reading there. It still says a majority. And that's what

00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.340
Alderman Johnson's proposing to change. Obviously, I haven't

00:34:42.340 --> 00:34:44.060
changed it yet because I don't know if it's going to be approved

00:34:44.060 --> 00:34:46.060
or not. So...

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»» Well... »» So just the amendment.

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»» Well, can I speak on it? »» On the amendment.

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is that for this particular ordinance to even be considered as an amendment there

00:35:06.500 --> 00:35:11.060
was no majority at that time of Aldermen's voting for that particular

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item. There was no majority in effect when this first came about to make a

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and others.

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I'm trying to make a modification to amend it for the majority of the Aldermen and the

00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.320
Mayor making these changes.

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Everyone was present at the Committee call meeting.

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Why are you...

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Everyone was present.

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So they're...

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I'm trying to give clarification from what I understand.

00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:47.120
I'm trying to give you the way that I understand, I understood it.

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and my thing is, my thing is, if there was no reason to implement or suggest this ordinance

00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:03.040
at the very beginning, there was not supposed to have been any modification changes or suggestion

00:36:03.040 --> 00:36:05.360
for an amendment.

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This had to be brought to the council as an agenda to try to make modification, but it

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and I have a question. Are you back to the May 19th question that you've had a couple

00:36:39.560 --> 00:36:40.560
and others.

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I am talking about this agenda and this ordinance, that is what I am referring to.

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If the ordinance was not introduced initially, we would not be having this conversation is

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what I am getting at.

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We would not be sitting here talking about this ordinance if it had not been introduced

00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:26.040
and I will also be making changes to the ordinance because everything was already in play. No changes had to be made, everything was according to previous ordinance or the past ordinance before it was introduced to be modified or changed or have an amendment to it. And that's what I'm getting at.

00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:31.000
Attorney Zito you want to answer that? So this item this ordinance was placed on a

00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.640
City Council agenda yeah and so then there was a motion and second to put it

00:37:35.640 --> 00:37:40.800
on the floor so to Alderman motioned and seconded it and and then there was

00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.400
discussion that was started to be had and that's when Alderman Johnson then

00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:52.160
made her motion to amend it so but it was on a council agenda. My question is

00:37:52.160 --> 00:37:58.840
who brought that to the agenda who implemented that suggestion that that

00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:04.640
ordinance that particular ordinance be placed on the agenda that's what I'm

00:38:04.640 --> 00:38:08.960
getting at who put that in there so we can be why are we sitting here

00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:17.039
discussing something somebody put on the agenda who is if it wasn't the council

00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:21.860
that put it on the agenda why is it on the agenda if the council had not put it

00:38:21.860 --> 00:38:23.860
and

00:38:24.900 --> 00:38:26.900
John.

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Who is putting things on the agenda that Council had not been

00:38:31.020 --> 00:38:35.160
notified or discussed or talked about this particular ordinance?

00:38:35.160 --> 00:38:37.160
That's all I'm asking.

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So ordinances are allowed to be put on for discussion for first

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reading.

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And it takes two Aldermen or the mayor or the city manager.

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You said it. That's what I'm getting at.

00:38:51.860 --> 00:38:52.860
and others.

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But he's asking who chose to put this ideal out there.

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Well, so let's talk about that for a minute.

00:39:03.460 --> 00:39:09.060
It was presented, if that's what you're asking, although I have, again, we're off topic there,

00:39:09.060 --> 00:39:13.300
Alderman Sanders, it has something to do with the amendment.

00:39:13.300 --> 00:39:17.539
I would have to say that was presented originally by Attorney Zito.

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I don't know what the date was.

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and quite honestly, I don't think I've had more phone calls of any topic of the efficiency

00:39:28.539 --> 00:39:35.340
of or the lack of of these meetings. So myself, several Aldermen sitting here actually spoke

00:39:35.340 --> 00:39:40.100
with Attorney Zito about how do we fix this? How do we make this better? How do we become

00:39:40.100 --> 00:39:42.140
more efficient? That's how it started.

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You know what? I don't like it.

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Are there any other discussion concerning the amendment itself? Actually, you've already spoken twice.

00:39:51.660 --> 00:39:55.660
Have I? Well, I will speak again today.

00:39:55.660 --> 00:39:57.660
Yes, but right now, it's about the amendment.

00:39:57.660 --> 00:40:23.180
and Stacey. You know, it's not like we can bring something to the agenda asking for thousands

00:40:23.180 --> 00:40:29.880
Johnson, James, James, and millions of dollars. When we bring something to the agenda, it's

00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:42.880
basically for clarity and understanding. And so, you know, it's an insult now to say, to

00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:51.880
first try and take away two people adding something to the agenda. To a majority. To

00:40:51.880 --> 00:41:01.880
to a majority when you know the majority is five to three. That was the first insult.

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And the salt added to the wound is now we have to add a memo and a description and whatever

00:41:12.640 --> 00:41:21.840
for the four things were to something that we're just seeking clarity about.

00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:30.920
It's not like we're asking council to vote on a new lawnmower or hangers at the airport

00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:40.760
or water mains breaks and piping and tubing and fixing.

00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:54.480
and it's just a way to try and shut us down or we got to put in the work as if we don't

00:41:54.480 --> 00:42:05.280
have jobs besides this one.

00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:18.880
This was not broke. And to come at us where the majority rules is five to three. You always

00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:28.460
rule. Okay? It's just, this is just heartbreaking. Because you want to say you're not trying

00:42:28.460 --> 00:42:35.080
and Stacey, and I'm going to shut us up, but you are. You want to say this isn't happening,

00:42:35.080 --> 00:42:43.040
that isn't happening, but it is. And so, I guess it is what it is.

00:42:43.040 --> 00:42:48.480
Well, I kind of have to differ with you, Alderman, Stacey, because if you're just looking for

00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:55.920
a point of clarity, again, phones are on, doors are open, if all you're looking for

00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:01.680
is an answer to something. You and every one of the council members are welcome to make

00:43:01.680 --> 00:43:07.940
phone calls to myself, to the city manager. We welcome that. We also welcome that weekly

00:43:07.940 --> 00:43:13.740
meeting that many attend and some don't at all. So if you'd like to have more input,

00:43:13.740 --> 00:43:17.420
if you'd like to have updates, if you'd like to have questions answered, that's where the

00:43:17.420 --> 00:43:23.860
efficiency comes in, is making those meetings, making those phone calls, coming. We welcome

00:43:23.860 --> 00:43:24.860
and others.

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I want to thank you for your input.

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Come see us.

00:43:26.860 --> 00:43:35.080
You said you welcome our input, but we have to dance to the beat of your drum, and that

00:43:35.080 --> 00:43:48.160
drum stopped beating a long time ago when we were lied to, we were looked down upon,

00:43:48.160 --> 00:43:58.280
We were ignored. We were made to feel and try to look stupid, like we don't know what

00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:11.560
we're talking about. I should not have to go through all this rigmarole because I won't

00:44:11.560 --> 00:44:14.320
Don't come to your office and sit and talk with you.

00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:23.560
See that's the real issue here because some of us don't come to your office.

00:44:23.560 --> 00:44:27.120
Some of us are not comfortable coming to your office.

00:44:27.120 --> 00:44:35.400
Some of us don't believe and trust what you say because you say one thing in our face

00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:44.000
Anderson, when we get to the Council Floor, not you, but when we get to the Council Floor,

00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.780
it's another whole different story.

00:44:47.780 --> 00:44:55.640
And I've pointed it out time and time again, and so yeah, I quit going, and I don't go,

00:44:55.640 --> 00:45:00.100
and I choose not to go.

00:45:00.100 --> 00:45:10.820
but I will start sending emails because I will have a paper trail on every subject, every

00:45:10.820 --> 00:45:22.700
concern and every topic that I bring to you as the Mayor and to City Manager Boyer in

00:45:22.700 --> 00:45:29.500
his absence as well as to you, Attorney Zito.

00:45:29.500 --> 00:45:34.500
I don't have a problem with that.

00:45:34.500 --> 00:45:37.500
Is there any other discussion on the amendment?

00:45:37.500 --> 00:45:39.500
We're still on the amendment, Larry.

00:45:39.500 --> 00:45:42.500
Have I exhausted my time?

00:45:42.500 --> 00:45:44.500
You have, on the amendment. We're still on the amendment.

00:45:44.500 --> 00:45:46.500
Okay, I exhausted it, okay.

00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:49.500
If there's no further discussion, Madam, oh.

00:45:49.500 --> 00:45:53.500
Could you just repeat it again? It's just to change it back to the two?

00:45:53.500 --> 00:45:58.500
Correct, right. That's what the amendment is, changing it back to two Aldermen with supporting documents such as the memo

00:45:58.500 --> 00:46:02.580
and all the terminology that went along with that. So Madam Clerk could you

00:46:02.580 --> 00:46:10.020
please take the role on the amendment only? Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye.

00:46:10.020 --> 00:46:22.860
Stacy? No. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? No. Sellers? Aye. And Klemm? Aye. The motion passes 6 to 0 on the amendment only. 6 to 2.

00:46:22.860 --> 00:46:33.220
I meant two, thank you attorney. Okay, so now before you is the ordinance with that amendment in it. So, further discussion, Madam?

00:46:36.060 --> 00:46:38.060
Would you like to talk about your piece?

00:46:42.740 --> 00:46:47.900
Not yet, okay, it's discussion on on with the amendment in there

00:46:47.900 --> 00:46:55.420
Miller. Madam Clerk, could you speak to the issue that was put on each one of the Aldermen's

00:46:55.420 --> 00:46:58.740
desks concerning the order of business clarification?

00:46:58.740 --> 00:47:11.900
Yes. The order of business is covered under 220.10.10 or Section 7 of Ordinance 2025.37.

00:47:11.900 --> 00:47:19.820
The previous order of business is outdated. It references committees that no longer stand

00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:26.480
since we have gone to the seven aldermen and the aldermen at large. They are more applicable

00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:32.920
back when we had 14 alderpersons and probably should have come out of there some time ago.

00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:39.160
There are some suggested revisions to meet more what we have been doing by practice,

00:47:39.160 --> 00:47:45.060
and some items that have come before us that just weren't considered before such as proclamations

00:47:45.060 --> 00:47:47.460
and items like that.

00:47:47.460 --> 00:47:59.320
So there is a proposed insert of informational presentations.

00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:03.680
And Attorney Zito, I gave you that one with, I did not give you that one with the red marked

00:48:03.680 --> 00:48:04.780
up.

00:48:04.780 --> 00:48:13.180
So informational presentations would be like the awarding of the American Water Works Association.

00:48:13.180 --> 00:48:16.940
We have the auditors coming in soon.

00:48:16.940 --> 00:48:22.700
So those types of informational presentations.

00:48:22.700 --> 00:48:28.200
Also something we do on the agenda is appointments.

00:48:28.200 --> 00:48:31.060
In the old listing, there really is no place for that.

00:48:31.060 --> 00:48:34.220
So we just kind of inserted it and made places.

00:48:34.220 --> 00:48:45.780
So now that's proposed as a seventh order of business, am I still looking at the wrong one?

00:48:45.780 --> 00:48:55.620
And then we've also proposed a ceremonial presentation and that would be our proclamations

00:48:55.620 --> 00:49:01.380
and things of that nature where a vote is not required.

00:49:01.380 --> 00:49:07.980
Could you give more clarity for that?

00:49:07.980 --> 00:49:08.980
Like when a group...

00:49:08.980 --> 00:49:09.980
What is it?

00:49:09.980 --> 00:49:10.980
What is it?

00:49:10.980 --> 00:49:11.980
Yeah, what is it?

00:49:11.980 --> 00:49:12.980
I mean...

00:49:12.980 --> 00:49:13.980
What is it?

00:49:13.980 --> 00:49:14.980
Proclamation?

00:49:14.980 --> 00:49:15.980
No, no.

00:49:15.980 --> 00:49:18.300
The ceremony and honorary presentation.

00:49:18.300 --> 00:49:21.380
That would be like a proclamation.

00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:22.380
It could be...

00:49:22.380 --> 00:49:26.500
I think you're using the wrong terminology.

00:49:26.500 --> 00:49:27.500
It would be...

00:49:27.500 --> 00:49:28.500
I think you're...

00:49:28.500 --> 00:49:29.500
Somebody with the red...

00:49:29.500 --> 00:49:30.500
I have it.

00:49:30.500 --> 00:49:43.500
That would include things like proclamations, swearing-ins, promotions, recognition of service awards, all those things that there's no vote on. It's just a ceremony that takes place, something honorary.

00:49:43.500 --> 00:49:48.500
Okay. I just thought maybe this is the first time I saw that.

00:49:48.500 --> 00:49:54.500
Yes. That's why we wanted to put these things in an actual document because we already do those things.

00:49:54.500 --> 00:49:57.620
So, Madam Clerk, do you have more things to add on what you have made change?

00:49:57.620 --> 00:50:06.900
I could note it's not part of this but we used to just put other and the

00:50:06.900 --> 00:50:10.260
suggestion is to change that to bid openings at other miscellaneous city

00:50:10.260 --> 00:50:18.260
business and previously it used to just say new business we have inserted the

00:50:18.260 --> 00:50:21.860
council announcements in there when each of you go around and have a chance to

00:50:21.860 --> 00:50:26.820
speak we've just clarified that that is new business and council announcements

00:50:26.820 --> 00:50:56.820
and others. Thank you.

00:50:56.820 --> 00:51:00.780
made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Johnson

00:51:00.780 --> 00:51:04.140
to amend that portion, Alderman Sanders.

00:51:04.140 --> 00:51:08.680
Yeah, the new business, when you say new business,

00:51:10.660 --> 00:51:13.980
how did you refer to that particular section

00:51:13.980 --> 00:51:15.980
when you talk about new business?

00:51:15.980 --> 00:51:18.940
Just a standard agenda format.

00:51:18.940 --> 00:51:20.220
I don't understand what that is.

00:51:20.220 --> 00:51:22.580
I don't know, does it come from Robert Rules of Order,

00:51:22.580 --> 00:51:25.400
Attorney Zeno, just lots of times you take care

00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:27.400
and

00:51:28.520 --> 00:51:30.520
St. Louis.

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And we have a lot of work to do to make sure that we have a

00:51:34.300 --> 00:51:36.300
good

00:51:37.420 --> 00:51:39.420
relationship with our old business and new business and our

00:51:40.520 --> 00:51:42.520
ordinance only stated new business before, but for quite

00:51:43.720 --> 00:51:45.720
some time, as long as I have been here, we listed on the

00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:48.840
agenda as council announcements and new business.

00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:51.960
Okay. So, okay.

00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.360
The breakdown of new business could refer to, it is kind of

00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:01.840
Attorney Zito. That's it? Okay. Any other discussion? Alderman Stacy?

00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:10.060
So why get rid of communications and written reports? Why get rid of reports of standing

00:52:10.060 --> 00:52:15.160
committees? Why not? We don't have standing committees. That's

00:52:15.160 --> 00:52:25.320
an old, old. It never was updated. Go ahead. When there were 14 Alderpersons on the floor,

00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:36.320
There was a Finance Committee, there was a Community Development Committee, there were many, many committees when there were 14 Alderpersons, and those committees no longer exist.

00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:39.320
But we still have some committees that exist.

00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:42.320
No, we have a Committee of the Whole.

00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:44.320
We do?

00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.320
It's the second Monday of every month, Larry.

00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:49.320
Johnson, Simmonds, Parker, Stacy, Shadle, Sanders, Thomas,

00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:34.040
Snell. Sellers? Aye. And Klemm? Aye. And just that amendment passes 6-2. Okay, so now we have a further amended ordinance. Any further discussion on the entire package?

00:53:34.040 --> 00:53:47.080
Alderman Johnson? On number 4, I would like to amend it where it says 2 minutes. I would like to amend that to say 3 minutes because we give the public

00:53:47.080 --> 00:53:49.080
Johnson, LeBron, Michael, and others.

00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.440
So we should have three minutes as well.

00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:56.480
** Can you repeat where? ** Number four on the ordnance

00:53:57.160 --> 00:54:01.160
here, it says this ordnance also provides that each of the two

00:54:01.160 --> 00:54:04.800
turns or any additional turn of approval by Council is limited

00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.200
to two minutes. The two minutes can be extended by a majority

00:54:08.200 --> 00:54:12.220
vote of Council. I would like to amend that to say three

00:54:12.220 --> 00:54:16.220
minutes. ** I believe it is under

00:54:16.220 --> 00:54:17.060
and

00:54:17.060 --> 00:54:18.220
the

00:54:18.220 --> 00:54:19.060
members of the board.

00:54:19.060 --> 00:54:22.060
I would like to ask the board to please read the item number four.

00:54:22.060 --> 00:54:23.060
She was referring to the four on the memo.

00:54:23.060 --> 00:54:24.060
Four on the memo.

00:54:24.060 --> 00:54:25.060
Four on the memo.

00:54:25.060 --> 00:54:26.060
Number four.

00:54:26.060 --> 00:54:27.060
Okay.

00:54:27.060 --> 00:54:32.060
So can you repeat what you want for an amendment?

00:54:32.060 --> 00:54:33.060
Okay.

00:54:33.060 --> 00:54:41.060
It will read exactly as it is except instead of two minutes, it would be three minutes.

00:54:41.060 --> 00:54:42.060
Okay.

00:54:42.060 --> 00:54:47.620
Bates is further each each member's two turns to speak shall not exceed three

00:54:47.620 --> 00:54:52.180
minutes in duration unless a majority of the council votes for additional time set.

00:54:52.180 --> 00:54:56.040
Is that what you're asking? Right. This ordinance also provides that each of the

00:54:56.040 --> 00:55:00.860
two turns is limited to three minutes is what I wanted to say. The three minutes

00:55:00.860 --> 00:55:06.180
can be extended by a majority vote of council. Yes. So we have a motion. Is there

00:55:06.180 --> 00:55:10.660
a second? This is not open for discussion. Second. We have a motion made

00:55:10.660 --> 00:55:19.860
by Alderman Johnson, seconded by Alderman Sellers, to amend as stated, discussion on that.

00:55:19.860 --> 00:55:21.900
Alderman Sanders?

00:55:21.900 --> 00:55:26.500
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:55:26.500 --> 00:55:35.940
The recommendation from Ms. Johnson is using the ordinance for three minutes, is that what's

00:55:35.940 --> 00:55:38.780
stated in the ordinance, three minutes?

00:55:38.780 --> 00:55:39.780
Two.

00:55:39.780 --> 00:55:40.780
Dixie.

00:55:40.780 --> 00:55:45.420
And you want to make an amendment for three minutes.

00:55:45.420 --> 00:55:47.860
Why are we stopping at three minutes?

00:55:47.860 --> 00:55:49.980
I'm just trying to get an understanding.

00:55:49.980 --> 00:55:54.980
Where did you come from with this three minutes and not five minutes?

00:55:54.980 --> 00:55:57.100
Because I thought it was fair because the public...

00:55:57.100 --> 00:55:58.700
You thought it was fair.

00:55:58.700 --> 00:55:59.700
Okay.

00:55:59.700 --> 00:56:05.500
The public gets three minutes, so the council should at least have three minutes.

00:56:05.500 --> 00:56:06.780
Okay.

00:56:06.780 --> 00:56:07.780
Any other discussion?

00:56:07.780 --> 00:56:08.780
Alderman Simmons.

00:56:08.780 --> 00:56:14.380
So I agree with you, Alderperson, Johnson, but would you agree to five?

00:56:14.380 --> 00:56:18.740
Even the quickest statements normally take a good minute depending on what you say, sometimes

00:56:18.740 --> 00:56:19.740
a minute and a half.

00:56:19.740 --> 00:56:21.460
I've been watching since this is on the table.

00:56:21.460 --> 00:56:26.380
I think five is more than enough time to get your point across per topic.

00:56:26.380 --> 00:56:33.380
So then you know that means ten, because it's twice.

00:56:33.380 --> 00:56:38.220
You're asking for there to be ten minutes per item per Alderman?

00:56:38.220 --> 00:56:42.780
and neither of us most of us don't use it I'm just I just want to make sure you

00:56:42.780 --> 00:56:45.740
understand what you're asking

00:56:53.820 --> 00:56:58.460
so there's a motion in a second for the three minutes right now are all the

00:56:58.460 --> 00:57:03.700
Simmons are you proposing an amendment to change the three to a five okay so if

00:57:03.700 --> 00:57:07.380
you if you're saying you're making that motion well I was asking an older

00:57:07.380 --> 00:57:19.380
Johnson will be willing to amend her motion, but if not, in the spirit of compromise, it's still half of what is already listed on the original ordinance.

00:57:19.380 --> 00:57:25.380
Originally, the way it stands right now is two minutes, twice.

00:57:25.380 --> 00:57:33.380
No, not this one you're proposing, before the changes. It was ten. I'm quite sure it was ten.

00:57:33.380 --> 00:57:47.380
There was actually no time limit set in the in the code as it reads right now, so it's up to Alderman Johnson if she wants to change it from three to five.

00:57:47.380 --> 00:57:54.380
Okay, we'll amend it to four.

00:57:54.380 --> 00:58:02.380
Okay, so your motion then you're changing your motion, your original motion from a change from two minutes to four minutes.

00:58:02.380 --> 00:58:03.380
Johnson.

00:58:03.380 --> 00:58:04.380
All right.

00:58:04.380 --> 00:58:05.380
But that would take a sec.

00:58:05.380 --> 00:58:08.580
Alderman Sellers, are you willing to amend your second to reflect four minutes?

00:58:08.580 --> 00:58:09.580
Yes.

00:58:09.580 --> 00:58:10.580
Okay.

00:58:10.580 --> 00:58:14.580
So then what's on the floor right now for discussion is a motion by Alderman Johnson

00:58:14.580 --> 00:58:17.860
to change the two minutes to four minutes seconded by Alderman Sellers.

00:58:17.860 --> 00:58:20.940
We're at discussion on that proposed change.

00:58:20.940 --> 00:58:30.140
Well, if there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll on changing

00:58:30.140 --> 00:58:40.660
speaking, Section 8, Number 15, to state not to exceed four minutes, speaking twice.

00:58:40.660 --> 00:58:41.660
Johnson?

00:58:41.660 --> 00:58:42.660
Aye.

00:58:42.660 --> 00:58:43.660
Simmons?

00:58:43.660 --> 00:58:44.660
Aye.

00:58:44.660 --> 00:58:45.660
Parker?

00:58:45.660 --> 00:58:46.660
Aye.

00:58:46.660 --> 00:58:47.660
Stacy?

00:58:47.660 --> 00:58:48.660
No.

00:58:48.660 --> 00:58:49.660
Shadle?

00:58:49.660 --> 00:58:50.660
Aye.

00:58:50.660 --> 00:58:51.660
Sanders?

00:58:51.660 --> 00:58:52.660
No.

00:58:52.660 --> 00:58:53.660
Sellers?

00:58:53.660 --> 00:58:54.660
Aye.

00:58:54.660 --> 00:58:55.660
Klemm?

00:58:55.660 --> 00:58:56.660
Aye.

00:58:56.660 --> 00:58:57.660
That amendment passes 6-2.

00:58:57.660 --> 00:58:58.660
Okay.

00:58:58.660 --> 00:59:09.300
Any further discussion on the amended portions and the entire package of rules of council?

00:59:09.300 --> 00:59:16.740
Seeing none, Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:59:16.740 --> 00:59:18.740
Johnson?

00:59:18.740 --> 00:59:20.340
Aye.

00:59:20.340 --> 00:59:21.140
Simmons?

00:59:21.140 --> 00:59:21.860
No.

00:59:21.860 --> 00:59:22.500
Parker?

00:59:22.500 --> 00:59:23.140
Aye.

00:59:23.140 --> 00:59:23.860
Stacy?

00:59:23.860 --> 00:59:24.580
No.

00:59:24.580 --> 00:59:25.220
Shadle?

00:59:25.220 --> 00:59:26.020
Aye.

00:59:26.020 --> 00:59:26.740
Sanders?

00:59:26.740 --> 00:59:27.380
No.

00:59:27.380 --> 00:59:28.180
Sellers?

00:59:28.180 --> 00:59:37.420
Aye. And Klemm. Aye. The ordinance passes five to three as amended. Item number seven

00:59:37.420 --> 00:59:45.740
is the first reading of ordinance 2025-39. Could you please read this? Ordinance approving

00:59:45.740 --> 00:59:53.220
zoning map amendment at 1500 Southwest Avenue submitted by REA for asset LLC to examine

00:59:53.220 --> 00:59:57.700
and the proposed zoning map change from a B-1-1 restricted retail business.

00:59:57.700 --> 01:00:03.540
One Restricted Retail Business to a B-2-1 Limited Service Business District.

01:00:03.540 --> 01:00:08.660
Elizabeth? Yes, thank you Madam Mayor. Staff received a zoning map amendment for

01:00:08.660 --> 01:00:16.220
1500 Southwest Avenue Freeport, Illinois. That's the Cubs Shopping Plaza, Brown's

01:00:16.220 --> 01:00:20.940
Shoe Stores, Fifth Third. The petitioner is requesting approval of a zoning map

01:00:20.940 --> 01:00:24.700
amendment. The owner of the properties are looking to make the tenant space

01:00:24.700 --> 01:00:41.700
B221 or B3, so this is the lowest zone one in the district. There's Southwest Corridor has numerous shopping plazas and there's other gyms in the district along with athletic and recreational fields right in the district.

01:00:41.700 --> 01:00:48.220
and the district there's Southwest Corridor has numerous shopping plazas and

01:00:48.220 --> 01:00:54.000
there's other gyms in the district along with athletic and recreational fields

01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:59.620
right in the district as well on June 12th I'm sorry on June 5th 2025 the

01:00:59.620 --> 01:01:03.820
Zoning Board of Appeals recommended approval of a vote by five yeas zero nays

01:01:03.820 --> 01:01:09.060
and zero abstentions on June 12th 2025 the Planning Commission also recommended

01:01:09.060 --> 01:01:15.500
Approval by a vote of 6 yeas, 0 nays, and 0 abstentions. Staff did review LaSalle Sinclair

01:01:15.500 --> 01:01:23.020
Factors and recommends the zoning map amendment for 1500 Southwest Avenue from a B11 restricted

01:01:23.020 --> 01:01:29.220
retail business to a B21 limited service business district area.

01:01:29.220 --> 01:01:34.260
Thank you. Is there a motion to move Ordinance 2025-39 on to the next meeting?

01:01:34.260 --> 01:01:35.260
Second.

01:01:35.260 --> 01:01:44.260
We have a motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Discussion on the ordinance? Alderman Sanders?

01:01:44.260 --> 01:01:52.260
Yeah, I understand the existing business complex that's already there is what we're referring to.

01:01:52.260 --> 01:02:03.260
And they want to establish or opening or design a different modification of that complex in order for them to

01:02:03.260 --> 01:02:04.260
and others.

01:02:04.260 --> 01:02:07.460
So, we're not going to establish whatever that she was referring to because I understood

01:02:07.460 --> 01:02:17.060
portions of it, but I don't understand the full details of what they're asking for.

01:02:17.060 --> 01:02:22.020
And so, we're not looking at the full details of it.

01:02:22.020 --> 01:02:32.540
I know you mentioned Jim, but we don't know how it's going to be produced in those areas

01:02:32.540 --> 01:02:38.060
and whether or not it causes any kind of infractions upon any of the businesses there.

01:02:38.060 --> 01:02:42.980
Are they taking over the whole complex over there or how they're working that?

01:02:42.980 --> 01:02:46.700
Because I can't see that space over there being large enough.

01:02:47.260 --> 01:02:49.000
What is their purpose?

01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:49.840
I'll put it like that.

01:02:50.140 --> 01:02:54.740
What is their main objectives and their purpose for wanting all of these things done?

01:02:56.560 --> 01:02:56.940
Elizabeth?

01:02:57.940 --> 01:03:01.820
So there's a vacant spot right now at the property.

01:03:01.820 --> 01:03:31.820
and I. It's been vacant since about October of 2022, where the hallmark was that's part of that location. So the tenant is, their approach, they have a tenant in line for that property or for that space. And what they're trying to do is open a gym, but they would need to zone it to a B21 to have it as a gym. So all of those businesses are established already. They're looking

01:03:31.820 --> 01:03:33.820
and

01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:36.920
Mr.

01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.000
Dixie.

01:03:43.100 --> 01:03:47.100
» There are some stores right now. Those are well-established stores

01:03:47.100 --> 01:03:50.380
and it is a well-established business corridor. There are lots

01:03:50.380 --> 01:03:55.380
of shopping plazas right there. There is one across the street.

01:03:55.380 --> 01:03:59.380
There is down by the meadows. There are lots of shopping plazas

01:03:59.380 --> 01:04:06.700
Cubs? Yep, right behind, you know, right by Cubs. Is there going to be any renovation

01:04:06.700 --> 01:04:12.180
of this area? There's going to be some minor renovations to just that tenant space, just

01:04:12.180 --> 01:04:17.420
to that open space, but... No demolition? None of that going on? No. Okay. Just some

01:04:17.420 --> 01:04:24.100
upgrades to make it more suitable for a gym. Okay. Alderman Stacey? So the people that

01:04:24.100 --> 01:04:32.300
once the gym came to the city or the other businesses came to the city?

01:04:32.300 --> 01:04:38.780
The property owner who owns the plaza came to the city and they said that they have tenants

01:04:38.780 --> 01:04:46.180
looking to rent the space, but they would need to get it rezoned.

01:04:46.180 --> 01:04:51.500
So they're trying to actively fill their space so that they can.

01:04:51.500 --> 01:04:52.500
Thank you.

01:04:52.500 --> 01:04:58.380
Elizabeth, is there any urgency of their timeframe? I did ask them about that. They

01:04:58.380 --> 01:05:05.460
didn't specify that. Okay. If there's no further discussion, on to item number eight,

01:05:05.460 --> 01:05:11.740
which is the adoption of resolution 2025-66. Could you please read this?

01:05:11.740 --> 01:05:16.580
Resolution imposing censure on three council members who were willfully and

01:05:16.580 --> 01:05:20.820
deliberately absent from the May 19, 2025 council meeting.

01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:22.740
Alderman Shadle.

01:05:22.740 --> 01:05:24.700
Thank you.

01:05:24.700 --> 01:05:27.940
At the May 19, 2025 council meeting,

01:05:27.940 --> 01:05:32.300
there were three Alderpersons absent from the meeting.

01:05:32.300 --> 01:05:37.140
Outgoing Alderperson Monroe made a statement to the news media

01:05:37.140 --> 01:05:41.780
in front of City Hall moments before the meeting.

01:05:41.780 --> 01:05:44.460
Alderperson Stacy was in front of the City Hall

01:05:44.460 --> 01:05:46.660
at this time as well.

01:05:46.660 --> 01:05:49.000
In his statement, Monroe mentioned that Simmons

01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:54.000
and Sanders were not there to avoid violating Illinois law.

01:05:55.340 --> 01:05:59.260
The overall intent of this action was to impede the business

01:05:59.260 --> 01:06:02.880
of this council by causing a failure of a quorum.

01:06:03.820 --> 01:06:07.180
This is quite clear in that they informed the news media

01:06:07.180 --> 01:06:11.120
exactly of their intent prior to the meeting.

01:06:11.120 --> 01:06:25.120
Fortunately, this tactic was unsuccessful as they evidently didn't understand that it was Alderperson Johnson's presence and not ex-Alderman Monroe's that mattered for the purpose of achieving a quorum.

01:06:25.120 --> 01:06:34.120
And this council was able to convene and do the very important work which was before us on the agenda.

01:06:34.120 --> 01:06:56.120
Regardless of the ultimate failure of these tactics, a concerted effort by elected Alderpersons to prevent the business of the city they were elected to serve is not the type of conduct either we as a council nor the constituents of the wards who elected them should be expected to tolerate.

01:06:56.120 --> 01:07:02.920
There is no absolute proof that Simmons and Sanders were a part of this conspiracy and

01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:07.080
therefore should be removed from this resolution.

01:07:07.080 --> 01:07:13.640
For the reasons I am making, for these reasons, I am making a motion to approve a resolution

01:07:13.640 --> 01:07:20.800
imposing censure on Alderperson Stacy for her behavior on May 19, 2025, including unexcused

01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:50.800
Winslow, John Winslow, John Winslow, John Winslow

01:07:50.800 --> 01:08:01.080
Shadle, seconded by Alderman Klemm, Madam Clerk, back when this item was first on the agenda,

01:08:01.080 --> 01:08:06.440
there was a motion and a second, correct, to get it on the floor for discussion, correct?

01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:07.440
Yes, sir.

01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:08.440
Okay.

01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:11.040
So there was originally the motion and second, so Alderman, made by, I assume by Alderman

01:08:11.040 --> 01:08:15.480
Shadle and Alderman Klemm, most likely, back then, just to get it on the floor for discussion.

01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:19.960
Shadle is yours your motion now technically a motion to amend your

01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:26.000
original motion to your amendment now is to remove Alderman Sanders and remove

01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:33.360
Alderman Simmons from the censure motion correct yes okay and then the only Clem

01:08:33.360 --> 01:08:40.020
you are the second yes on this amendment correct okay so discussion on the

01:08:40.020 --> 01:08:50.180
Amendment Only. The amendment only? Why are we jumping over the fence to get to an

01:08:50.180 --> 01:08:55.659
amendment? Because Alderman Sanders or Shadle just made a motion to amend his

01:08:55.659 --> 01:09:02.180
original motion. Because he originally made the motion a few weeks ago. But that

01:09:02.180 --> 01:09:06.740
has nothing to do with the ordinance itself? No, the original ordinance and the

01:09:06.739 --> 01:09:14.860
Resolution of this of this May 19th that has not been resolved yet correct so I

01:09:14.860 --> 01:09:20.260
don't want you jumping over the fence I'm not trying to get to this part of the

01:09:20.260 --> 01:09:27.500
resolution that Alderman Shadle is recommending because there's more there's

01:09:27.500 --> 01:09:31.980
more other things to talk about before we get to this part and I don't want us

01:09:31.980 --> 01:09:39.780
and I have to lose oversight of that and not bring this into the council as well.

01:09:39.780 --> 01:09:44.900
That should be brought up for discussion because protocol was not met and I just want to make

01:09:44.900 --> 01:09:53.220
sure that this has been recorded because procedures did not take effect like it should and people

01:09:53.220 --> 01:09:57.180
are doing things that they're not authorized to do.

01:09:57.180 --> 01:09:57.680
Ok, Mayor

01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:07.140
I'm authorized to do. Okay remember this is just the amendment? I'm talking to. And he already told you we're talking just the amendment?

01:10:07.140 --> 01:10:15.480
Correct. Well, I just don't want it to be manipulated. We'll come back to the amended after that. Okay.

01:10:15.480 --> 01:10:22.020
If there's no further discussion on the amendment only, madam clerk would you please take the roll on the amendment.

01:10:22.020 --> 01:10:22.920
Johnson.

01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:23.680
Aye.

01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:24.960
Simmons.

01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:25.840
Parker.

01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:26.680
Aye.

01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:40.079
Stacy? No. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? No. Sellers? Aye. And Klemm? Aye. The amendment is approved 5 to 3.

01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:46.920
Okay, so now before you is the amended version of this resolution. Discussion.

01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:53.500
Alderman Sellers. I don't know if this is the part, but I would like to add in

01:10:53.500 --> 01:11:01.260
there that if you are going to be absent that you make a call to the city clerk

01:11:01.260 --> 01:11:08.579
because she has to take attendance so is this the time that you would know okay

01:11:08.579 --> 01:11:14.539
no this is just a central resolution so if you wanted to require if anyone's

01:11:14.539 --> 01:11:18.140
gonna be absent that they inform the clerk and give the reason that that's a

01:11:18.140 --> 01:11:22.020
change to our ordinance so that would be an ordinance change I would have to have

01:11:22.020 --> 01:11:29.460
to propose that as an ordinance change there, but this is just a censure resolution.

01:11:29.460 --> 01:11:32.579
Further discussion on the Alderman, Sanders.

01:11:32.579 --> 01:11:38.940
Yes, so there's no adoption or drafting of this particular censure.

01:11:38.940 --> 01:11:47.460
This is not a rule or what I want to say, valid, it's not really valid to even have

01:11:47.460 --> 01:11:55.260
Davis implemented into this discussion, even the suggestion that Alderman Shadle even brought

01:11:55.260 --> 01:12:04.300
up the fact of censorship, does not give him the authorization to impede upon the Aldermen's,

01:12:04.300 --> 01:12:08.140
even though I know it's overloaded and everything like that and it's going up for a vote.

01:12:08.140 --> 01:12:15.220
But my point is that in my argument, this should not have been brought to the floor

01:12:15.220 --> 01:12:19.420
until we had in-depth discussions about it,

01:12:19.420 --> 01:12:21.340
what is relevant and what is not,

01:12:21.340 --> 01:12:23.680
and how the protocols are set up,

01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:25.700
and what is the consistency,

01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:29.940
the consistency of how we adopt things

01:12:29.940 --> 01:12:32.500
and how we do things in this administration

01:12:32.500 --> 01:12:33.760
and this council.

01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:35.740
So I don't feel this is,

01:12:37.740 --> 01:12:40.340
and you can oppose that if you choose to wanna do so,

01:12:40.340 --> 01:12:42.180
but my thing is,

01:12:42.180 --> 01:12:45.619
that is how I have always seen it operate

01:12:45.619 --> 01:12:48.039
for the last two years that I've been here

01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:50.600
and nothing has reached the level

01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:54.360
that it is reaching today because some zealous person

01:12:54.360 --> 01:12:59.360
wants to get their way because they're upset.

01:13:00.240 --> 01:13:02.240
But when we get a chance to talk about

01:13:02.240 --> 01:13:06.039
the actual May 19th meeting,

01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:08.840
that's where I wanna go with this whole conversation

01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:11.200
but I had to chime in now

01:13:11.200 --> 01:13:12.000
and Thurmond.

01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:16.180
I'm so grateful for the opportunity that you're giving me.

01:13:16.180 --> 01:13:19.340
So my hope is that you should continue to work on this.

01:13:19.340 --> 01:13:22.020
I'm going to make sure that I get the opportunity,

01:13:22.020 --> 01:13:25.800
otherwise I wouldn't have the opportunity later.

01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:29.860
So that's why I'm talking the way that I am.

01:13:29.860 --> 01:13:32.280
Any further, Alderman Simmons?

01:13:32.280 --> 01:13:32.780
All right.

01:13:32.780 --> 01:13:36.720
So Alderperson, Shadle, I appreciate your amendment

01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:37.220
to that.

01:13:37.220 --> 01:13:39.520
And I understand what you're trying to do.

01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:54.520
I just feel like, again, we should just table this and leave it alone. Yes, we got it. Shame on you for not being here and not calling and saying why. But this is just a waste of time. And again, we'd like to make a motion to table this.

01:13:54.520 --> 01:14:00.520
Second.

01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:02.520
Soto.

01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:09.119
Alderman Simmons, just for clarification, is your motion to table this to another meeting

01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:10.119
or to table indefinitely?

01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:11.119
I add indefinitely.

01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:12.119
Got it.

01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:13.119
Okay.

01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:15.680
And clarify that your second is to table indefinitely.

01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:16.680
Yes.

01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:17.680
Okay.

01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:18.680
Okay.

01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:20.840
So now before you is a motion to table indefinitely.

01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:22.840
Is there discussion on the tabling itself?

01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:27.039
Madam Clerk, would you please, Alderman State?

01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:32.340
I don't mind tabling it because we got it all out, but I still would like to make sure

01:14:32.340 --> 01:14:38.440
that if you're not going to be here, it's only respect to give Dovie a call to let you

01:14:38.440 --> 01:14:40.760
know that you're not going to be present.

01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:45.119
If you were working your job and you weren't going to come in, you would have to call and

01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:46.119
let them know.

01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:50.440
So I think it's only proper protocol to call and let someone know when you're not going

01:14:50.440 --> 01:14:54.039
to be here, because this is our job.

01:14:54.039 --> 01:15:08.880
Alderman, Shadle, Alderperson, Simmons, I can understand what you're saying as long

01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:22.119
as this is something that has been brought to light, that it's unacceptable and it's

01:15:22.119 --> 01:15:29.119
it's not going to be tolerated, we can let it go.

01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:38.119
If there's no further discussion on the tabling motion, that would be Stacy.

01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:44.119
Please take the roll.

01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:47.119
So this is on postponing indefinitely.

01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:50.119
Johnson?

01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:51.119
Aye.

01:15:51.119 --> 01:16:02.700
Simmons, Parker, Stacy, Shadle, Sanders, Sellers, and Klemm.

01:16:02.700 --> 01:16:07.680
The motion to postpone indefinitely passes 6-2.

01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:12.560
Item number 9 is the adoption of resolution 2025-69.

01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:15.560
Could you please read this?

01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:19.960
Resolution ratifying emergency electrical repairs to police department air conditioning

01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:21.960
System, by Morris Electric.

01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:28.760
Can I put a, yeah, I know, but you omitted my discussion prior to.

01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:31.960
Alderman Sanders, we're on the next item here, so.

01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:37.159
Yeah, but we are, okay, all right.

01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:41.760
You're not going to let me discuss that matter that I referred to earlier.

01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:45.760
Okay, all right.

01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:48.060
Darren Steakl, would you like to present this?

01:16:48.060 --> 01:16:57.460
This is an emergency electrical repairs to the air conditioning system at Morris.

01:16:57.460 --> 01:17:02.420
I'm not going to read through the whole memo, but we've been blowing compressors over there

01:17:02.420 --> 01:17:11.659
regularly and about four or five weeks ago we had another compressor that went out.

01:17:11.659 --> 01:17:15.240
We brought Morris Electric in as a specialist.

01:17:15.240 --> 01:17:17.740
they helped us bring in Commonwealth Edison

01:17:17.740 --> 01:17:21.240
which we've had to the facility two or three times.

01:17:21.240 --> 01:17:23.920
They brought a specialist in from the city

01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:27.760
that has special load sensing equipment to the building.

01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:31.140
They had accused the city of adding additional load

01:17:31.140 --> 01:17:33.520
to the police facility which had not happened

01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:35.600
and we knew that.

01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:39.360
The long story short is when a lot of electrical equipment

01:17:39.360 --> 01:17:43.420
in the area would run, it would short the power from the PD.

01:17:43.420 --> 01:17:48.420
Thus, like de-phasing some of the three-phase motors

01:17:48.619 --> 01:17:51.000
and making the motors unbalanced

01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:53.119
and they would fry the compressors.

01:17:54.140 --> 01:17:58.440
After research, it was found that the Banks-Bergana building

01:17:58.440 --> 01:18:01.180
had added eight air conditioning systems

01:18:01.180 --> 01:18:02.840
since it reopened up,

01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:05.240
and they never turned in a load letter to ComEd,

01:18:05.240 --> 01:18:07.260
so they added all that load to the same grid

01:18:07.260 --> 01:18:09.220
pulling from the same transformers.

01:18:09.220 --> 01:18:11.460
And so when all of those air conditioners hit,

01:18:11.460 --> 01:18:12.940
when our air conditioners did,

01:18:12.940 --> 01:18:13.940
and others.

01:18:13.940 --> 01:18:18.920
It was proven out through the study that we did out there.

01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:26.039
We put some pressure on ComEd to come out and replace the Transformers and they did on

01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:28.200
overtime to get it done.

01:18:28.200 --> 01:18:32.460
This has probably been an issue that's been going on for probably about the time I've

01:18:32.460 --> 01:18:37.560
been doing the public works role three years because we've had ComEd out there three times

01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:42.420
and they really were persistent that there wasn't an issue until we were able to get

01:18:42.420 --> 01:19:12.420
We asked to get the specialist out with the proper equipment to measure it so thanks to their help most of it's resolved. Since then we did fry another compressor but it was because the compressor was bad. It actually blew a piston. It had nothing to do with the electrical content and so we're asking to pay Morris Electric their invoice fee for helping us. We also did a bunch of rewiring at the facility and updated some items to make sure that the system wasn't grounding out

01:19:12.420 --> 01:19:18.020
All in prevention to make sure this was happened. We have other bills that are coming along with this.

01:19:18.020 --> 01:19:22.020
This is just the first one of a few and we are turning this into a

01:19:22.380 --> 01:19:27.180
ComEd electrical claim that we've already started the process with the city's insurance company.

01:19:27.180 --> 01:19:30.940
So all these bills will be turned over as a physical electrical claim,

01:19:31.380 --> 01:19:33.980
but we do need to get our vendors paid for the good work they've provided.

01:19:35.100 --> 01:19:38.820
Is there a motion to adopt this resolution? So moved. Second.

01:19:38.820 --> 01:19:45.820
A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Discussion on the resolution, Alderman Sanders.

01:19:45.820 --> 01:19:57.720
Yes. I understand what you are saying. And these contractors want to get paid

01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:03.720
and others wants to get paid expeditiously as soon as possible as we are talking.

01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:05.720
Well, they're good contractors.

01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:08.720
I mean, they're not begging for the money, but, you know, in the ultimate process.

01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:10.720
But they can't wait for the insurance claim to...

01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:14.720
Correct. They shouldn't have to wait for a claim that they weren't part of.

01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:15.720
Okay.

01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:16.720
They just provide a good service to us.

01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:22.720
Do we know what...the claim has not been investigated yet. Is that correct?

01:20:22.720 --> 01:20:30.720
I wouldn't say it's not investigated. We just submitted the claim, I believe, today.

01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:40.720
But it was actually a commonwealth adolescent specialist that works on these types of problems.

01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:43.720
They're the ones that brought the load equipment out and recognized it.

01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:49.720
They were very gracious on site and helped us work through it and actually he ordered the work to be done

01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:56.000
and Mr. Gullwrap here that helped us to get the Transformers changed the same day.

01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:05.579
So we have an itemized list of things to replace this equipment and the balance that needs

01:21:05.579 --> 01:21:12.520
to be paid and not only that, what are we suggesting in paying the contractors early

01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:16.360
for the work service that they have done?

01:21:16.360 --> 01:21:20.640
I wouldn't say we're going to pay them early. We've already provided the service. We will

01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:24.119
pay them for the service and then we will seek our reimbursement through the insurance

01:21:24.119 --> 01:21:29.720
company which is the way more its claims are done. So there will be three invoices that

01:21:29.720 --> 01:21:34.520
I know of for sure. We'll have this Morris invoice. We have a bill from Geostar which

01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:39.640
is our HVAC master supplier that's been working out there. And then Genesis Power with the

01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:44.119
generator systems. We should have invoices from them. I've also asked Michelle to go

01:21:44.119 --> 01:21:45.119
and so forth.

01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:48.000
We're going to go back through the time that we've been dealing with this and collect those

01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:51.940
invoices as well as part of the claim because we've had a lot of work done there in the

01:21:51.940 --> 01:21:53.159
last couple years.

01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:58.880
So, we're maintaining what we already have in existence, right?

01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:00.360
We're just going to maintain that?

01:22:00.360 --> 01:22:01.360
Yes, sir.

01:22:01.360 --> 01:22:07.000
And that would be sufficient enough that we don't have to come back and request any more

01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:10.600
funding for that particular job?

01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:13.680
Just the bills that we have coming, Alderman Sanders.

01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:19.280
The system there, as we've discussed for many years here, is very old.

01:22:19.280 --> 01:22:25.079
It's original equipment, the outdoor air compressor is probably in the neighborhood of 45 years

01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:26.079
old.

01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:27.079
That's why I said that.

01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:28.079
Right?

01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:29.079
That's why I said that.

01:22:29.079 --> 01:22:30.079
It's a very large bill to replace.

01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:34.840
It's probably quarter million dollars to replace the AC outside, so I don't think we're looking

01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:37.600
to do that in a building that we would like to exit shortly.

01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:38.600
Okay, got you.

01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:39.600
Got you.

01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:40.600
Ms. Sellers?

01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:51.600
I was just wondering, I know you said the Banks Pergagna building, I mean they had the 10 air conditioners, so if they were to turn them on again, it wouldn't affect us.

01:22:51.600 --> 01:23:08.600
The day that we found out the load requirement issues, the Commonwealth Ed Specialists calculated new transformer sizes for the rear of the alley there, where we pull our feed from, and they changed those out that day to be able to feed all the equipment if it feeds together.

01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:19.600
We put on some specialized electric monitor equipment that shows that we haven't had any more power issues since that day.

01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:22.600
Any further discussion on this resolution?

01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:29.600
Yeah, I forgot to ask, what is the total at this current time?

01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:30.600
Somebody can help me.

01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:31.600
$13,000 a change.

01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:36.600
Yeah, $13,000 was just the electrical, but that's not just all their service work.

01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:52.600
We had a lot of electrical redone within the actual AC unit and all the feeds that run into the building were done because those were original and we were afraid that they may have been grounding out in the old conduit. So those were all new conduits and pretty heavy copper wire that was ran back into the building.

01:23:52.600 --> 01:23:58.600
So those, so that amount, that balance would cover the three invoices is what we're seeing.

01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:04.840
No, that's just one invoice from one supplier. This bill will probably be, in all reality,

01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:10.680
close to $100,000 when we're all done. Oh, see, that's a different number. Yeah. Yeah.

01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:16.920
Okay. That's what I... Just the compressor for that system is about $40,000. Yeah. Okay. All right.

01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:21.720
If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Johnson?

01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:23.000
Aye. Simmons?

01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:25.400
Aye. Parker?

01:24:25.400 --> 01:24:26.520
Aye. Stacy?

01:24:27.400 --> 01:24:28.200
Aye.

01:24:28.200 --> 01:24:58.200
Shadle, Sanders, Sellers, and Klemm. The resolution is adopted 8 to 0. Item number 10 is reports from Department Heads Finance. Thank you. Community Development. Thank you. Public Works. Just a couple of quick things. The Carroll Street water main project is starting this week. You'll probably see signs road cutting coming up. There was an accident

01:24:58.200 --> 01:25:06.039
on the Communication. The section that's being done is from Adams to Empire, excluding Galena Street,

01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:10.760
but that whole portion will be done. I believe they're starting near Empire Street and working

01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:16.440
their way to the north. That project, again, they're starting today. Contractors should be

01:25:16.440 --> 01:25:22.760
in sometime this week to start opening up the street and tying in Watermain. The street projects

01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:28.960
Hicks, that we bid. Those will all be starting next Monday. Kelsey Excavating will be in.

01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:34.079
We met with them today and they will be starting on Cleveland Avenue and then working their

01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:38.480
way around town. And then we have a pre-con set up with fishers for the middle of the

01:25:38.480 --> 01:25:44.560
week so the water main projects can start. That will start at Black Hawk Avenue as well.

01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:49.800
As we stated last week, about $6.7 million for the road construction that will be taking

01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:55.960
Place for the rest of the summer. Thank you. Fire Department? Yes, thank you, Your Honor.

01:25:55.960 --> 01:26:01.239
Some of my personnel have expressed to me that they would like me to share some of their activities

01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:07.079
and the calls that they respond to throughout the week to council members and also the public. So

01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:14.280
to comply with their request of me, I've got a few calls to share with the council and the public

01:26:14.280 --> 01:26:15.280
and others.

01:26:15.280 --> 01:26:21.960
So on June 5th, Bishop responded to the Lindow Theater and found a gentleman in full cardiac

01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:22.960
arrest.

01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:23.960
He was in the lobby.

01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:29.400
Our paramedics got there, the engine company, and they successfully resuscitated him.

01:26:29.400 --> 01:26:35.079
He was flown to the hospital in Rockford for further care, and now last report he was sitting

01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:38.680
up talking to his family and they were wishing him a Happy Father's Day.

01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:42.960
So that was a successful resuscitation.

01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:52.800
also last week they had a similar situation at the golf course and that same thing they

01:26:52.800 --> 01:27:00.200
had successful resuscitation that gentleman also was flown to Rockford and he's receiving

01:27:00.200 --> 01:27:02.440
additional care.

01:27:02.440 --> 01:27:08.520
Some other incidents we had four car crashes one was a rollover with injuries and we spawned

01:27:08.520 --> 01:27:17.159
to a garage fire on Foley that was set by three juveniles, witnessed by a construction

01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:21.200
crew that were doing the lead service line remediation.

01:27:21.200 --> 01:27:26.239
So we had good witnesses to that event there.

01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:34.760
We spawned into a bedroom fire started by a small child with a lighter on Ringgold.

01:27:34.760 --> 01:27:46.760
So, it was a busy week for those folks. They did a great job. So, keeping up with their requests, there we are then. I shared with you some of their calls. So, thank you.

01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:48.760
Thank you. Police?

01:27:48.760 --> 01:28:03.760
Yeah I just want to recognize Darren first off for the air conditioning issue as we know it's been a problem but he knew that there was an issue that needed to be figured out and he was adamant about that and I really appreciate all the work that he put into that.

01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:10.760
Secondly, I just want to address some statements that were made during public comment at last week's Committee of the Whole meeting.

01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:17.760
Initially I'd like to state that the work that individuals do in the dispatch center is some of the most important work at the police department.

01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:47.760
and many more. The Dispatch Center is fully staffed with 2-3 dispatchers per shift. In addition, there is built-in redundancy where any call that is not able to be answered by the two or three dispatchers is automatically forwarded to other dispatch centers. This process is used in multiple other dispatch agencies, as well as agencies that are not able to be answered.

01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:51.039
and other agencies where there's only one dispatcher on duty.

01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:53.640
Regarding the comments about calls being placed on hold,

01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:56.640
if a private ambulance company needs to be contacted,

01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:59.140
the appropriate protocol is to place the caller on hold

01:28:59.140 --> 01:29:01.239
for a brief period while making contact

01:29:01.239 --> 01:29:03.400
with the private ambulance company.

01:29:03.400 --> 01:29:05.360
This practice is acceptable and recognized

01:29:05.360 --> 01:29:08.480
by the Illinois State 911 Administrator,

01:29:08.480 --> 01:29:10.960
and is the policy of other agencies as well,

01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:14.039
and does not present a safety risk to the public.

01:29:14.039 --> 01:29:15.920
If anyone has any questions or inquiries

01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:19.039
about how the Dispatch Center operates.

01:29:19.039 --> 01:29:22.760
Feel free to contact either myself or Deputy Chief Davis.

01:29:24.220 --> 01:29:25.060
Thank you.

01:29:25.060 --> 01:29:25.880
Library.

01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:27.880
Thank you.

01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:31.180
I just wanted to highlight our summer reading program.

01:29:31.180 --> 01:29:33.200
Last week we had our kickoff event

01:29:33.200 --> 01:29:37.560
and we had over 500 people attend our event

01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:42.400
and we already have registered probably close to 500 kids

01:29:42.400 --> 01:29:44.560
for summer reading.

01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:49.560
and every event has been attended very well.

01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:52.539
So we're looking forward to you.

01:29:52.539 --> 01:29:57.539
This week we have a Bluey party as in the.

01:29:57.539 --> 01:30:03.859
Lee Party as in the cartoon is on Friday so you can go to our website to get more

01:30:03.859 --> 01:30:13.739
information about that. Thank you. IT? I had to remind the council and the

01:30:13.739 --> 01:30:17.739
listening audience that this coming weekend starts the 40 days of peace and

01:30:17.739 --> 01:30:22.859
community building with High Hope Freeport. Friday on the area of Chicago

01:30:22.859 --> 01:30:28.619
and Frank will be 8 a.m. for beautifying the block and then Saturday in that same

01:30:28.619 --> 01:30:35.420
area of Chicago and Frank is from 1 to 4 is the resource block party and then on

01:30:35.420 --> 01:30:42.000
Sunday on Chicago and Frank is the church in the street from 1 to 2 30 so if

01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:46.739
you would like to come to any or all of those three different things please

01:30:46.739 --> 01:30:51.500
please do so if you need a reminder of timeframes and such please let me know

01:30:51.500 --> 01:31:00.420
and I'll be happy to get that to you. So with that Alderman, Johnson, Alderman, Johnson.

01:31:00.420 --> 01:31:05.460
Yeah I just want to remind everybody there's praise in the park. Friday at

01:31:05.460 --> 01:31:10.060
Crate Park at 7 p.m. the assemblyman will be the ones that will be presenting the

01:31:10.060 --> 01:31:15.899
music and also the neighborhood watch for the second ward is this Thursday at 6

01:31:15.899 --> 01:31:19.899
at 6.30 p.m. at 3002 Farmdale Lane.

01:31:19.899 --> 01:31:21.899
Alderman Simmons?

01:31:21.899 --> 01:31:23.899
No, I don't have anything. Thank you.

01:31:23.899 --> 01:31:25.899
Alderman Parker?

01:31:25.899 --> 01:31:29.899
The only thing is the Neighborhood Watch is next Monday night on Laurel Street.

01:31:29.899 --> 01:31:31.899
Alderman Stacy?

01:31:31.899 --> 01:31:33.899
Not at this time.

01:31:33.899 --> 01:31:35.899
Alderman Shadle?

01:31:35.899 --> 01:31:43.899
Just want to point out that our Neighborhood Watch is going to get moved from July 3rd because of the halibate being the next day.

01:31:43.899 --> 01:31:51.019
It'll give me the week later on July 10th at Schwartz on Park Boulevard.

01:31:51.019 --> 01:31:52.500
Alderman Sanders?

01:31:52.500 --> 01:32:04.899
Yeah, I'd like to just elaborate on this Chapter 20 Rules of Council and Section 2, 2010, Order

01:32:04.899 --> 01:32:05.899
of Business.

01:32:05.899 --> 01:32:13.819
I'm just curious to want to know, has any changes in this order been modified, reconstructed,

01:32:13.819 --> 01:32:14.819
and others.

01:32:14.819 --> 01:32:39.420
I would like to know who established those changes and what was recommended for those

01:32:39.420 --> 01:33:05.920
and

01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:12.399
I like to address that because I want it to be changed back to its regular standard processing

01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:21.600
because that right there suppresses council opportunity to speak on the subject matter

01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:30.359
of the public announcements. When the citizens of Freeport comes in, it cancels out council

01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:33.079
from injecting their views and expression

01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:38.079
and rebutting of anything that the general public

01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:43.079
might present to the council or to this city hall.

01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:45.559
So I like, if that change had been made,

01:33:45.559 --> 01:33:48.119
I'd like for us to put it back

01:33:48.119 --> 01:33:50.640
because I see that this has seemed to me,

01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:55.279
to me it seems like a manipulation process took place here

01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:57.079
and I see that it's been taken out

01:33:57.079 --> 01:33:59.559
and then put something else been put in there

01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:01.960
and I don't think that should happen.

01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:05.680
So, we already voted on that.

01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:08.439
That was an amendment that we made and it was voted on,

01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:12.039
I believe it was passed 6-2 and it was presented by,

01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:15.079
it was presented by Clerk Anderson.

01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:16.760
I'm not asking for anything to change.

01:34:16.760 --> 01:34:19.680
Well, you asked if it was already voted on

01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:21.159
and yes, it was already voted on.

01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:23.720
Yeah, but that's what I'm asking myself.

01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:27.640
I'm asking for my own understanding

01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:29.920
and my own clarification.

01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:31.180
Alderman Sellers?

01:34:31.180 --> 01:34:32.380
Nothing.

01:34:32.380 --> 01:34:33.600
Alderman Klemm?

01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:35.380
Yeah, I'd just like to take a second

01:34:35.380 --> 01:34:38.359
to thank Pat Ingram and his crews this morning.

01:34:38.359 --> 01:34:41.260
We had an Arcando Association.

01:34:41.260 --> 01:34:43.539
Some branches come down and block the street

01:34:43.539 --> 01:34:46.600
and the guys are right there to take care of it.

01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:49.079
And thank you guys for all you do

01:34:49.079 --> 01:34:50.840
and all the people who work for the city.

01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:52.079
We really appreciate it.

01:34:53.899 --> 01:34:55.399
Then we'll move on to item number 14,

01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:56.439
which is public comment.

01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:57.439
and many other public comments.

01:34:57.439 --> 01:34:58.439
Yes.

01:34:58.439 --> 01:34:59.439
Joshua Atkinson.

01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:18.000
Tonight, you guys, this body defended the ordinance change to change City Council rules.

01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:21.159
Many of the changes in there were never discussed on this floor.

01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:23.279
They were just in there, so it was up to you guys all to look in there.

01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:28.460
Taylor, I hope you guys saw all those rules that are now being changed.

01:35:28.460 --> 01:35:34.199
But you defended the whole thing by saying to Alderman Stacey, just come talk to us.

01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:35.199
Just give us a call.

01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:36.899
Come to the meetings.

01:35:36.899 --> 01:35:40.359
While I sat here for the past two meetings, this one and the one before, while Alderman

01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:46.000
Sanders, although it takes him a little bit sometimes to get there, flat out asked a very

01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:48.159
simple question very clearly.

01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:51.000
Who put this ordinance on the agenda?

01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:57.000
still we have no answer for that said we got a bunch of words so that's why

01:35:57.000 --> 01:36:00.199
they're not going to come to the meetings that's why they're not going to

01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:04.519
call you and that's why they're going to get everything in an email now I want to

01:36:04.519 --> 01:36:10.439
talk about conduct and what's unacceptable around here tonight thank

01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:17.819
you for your report awesome tell the guys awesome police chief tonight you

01:36:17.819 --> 01:36:23.899
You gave Kevin an update, a recap of last public comment, but I don't know if this is

01:36:23.899 --> 01:36:29.859
true or not, but I just heard about it today, that the young woman who spoke and pleaded

01:36:29.859 --> 01:36:34.960
for this council to help her at the conditions at the police department was written up when

01:36:34.960 --> 01:36:39.420
she returned to work and accused of lying.

01:36:39.420 --> 01:36:45.760
And I really hope that's not true, if it is, I hope that the eight Aldermen here find out

01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:51.640
Scott, and get to the bottom of it on why we're retaliating.

01:36:51.640 --> 01:36:56.199
No comments from the public.

01:36:56.199 --> 01:37:05.680
Another public comment, Wendy?

01:37:05.680 --> 01:37:13.560
I would like to, Wendy Pearson, I would like to first tell the Chief that we're so happy

01:37:13.559 --> 01:37:26.960
I also was told that the young lady was reprimanded for coming up here speaking her piece, that

01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:28.840
she was written up.

01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:35.199
I would like to first address the contract for city workers.

01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:40.640
As you guys know, the city has been in negotiation with city workers for the past three to four

01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:46.640
and many more months. The deadline for them to be able to strike is May, I'm sorry, June 25th.

01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:57.640
I'd like to say to you this, regardless to what the Chief has just stated, there have been times that I've walked up in a police station and there was one dispatch person, just one.

01:37:57.640 --> 01:38:01.640
The same thing I've been told has happened in the Sheriff's Department as well.

01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:08.640
Now I want to give you a scenario. I want you to understand what the state of emergency is for this city.

01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:14.520
Dixie, if our city workers decide to strike, that means that the entire city will be shut

01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:15.520
down.

01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:19.279
No services, no police department, no water services, no street services, no services

01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:20.279
whatsoever.

01:38:20.279 --> 01:38:24.199
And you can smirk if you want to, but the fact of the matter is this.

01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:30.239
If we have two phone calls that comes to the city of Freeport, dispatch, and we have two

01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:32.880
that come from the chair office at the same time.

01:38:32.880 --> 01:38:33.880
We've got one to two dispatchers.

01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:40.880
Imagine one of those calls not being answered, because the county also has these calls.

01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:44.880
So you know what our next line of defense is, people?

01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:51.880
Ogle County, 30 to 45 minutes away, for an emergency situation, if we don't have enough.

01:38:51.880 --> 01:39:00.880
Now, to be clear, and to be honest, and to be fair, there aren't enough people to help with what the Chief has talked about.

01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:04.880
We have a shortage of EMTs, okay?

01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:07.880
So if we have more EMTs, would we have this problem?

01:39:07.880 --> 01:39:08.880
I don't think so.

01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:12.880
But the fact of the matter is, is you guys need to sit down with our city workers.

01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:16.880
You need to negotiate a fair and honest contract with them.

01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:20.880
And I'm going to tell the city that I've encouraged some of them to strike.

01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:23.880
And I've encouraged them to strike for one day.

01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:29.880
Because one day of shutting down this city will show what has not been accomplished,

01:39:29.880 --> 01:39:35.199
Walsh, the things that have not been done, the manner in which we're being treated.

01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:39.920
Now do I want us to lose power in the streets?

01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:42.520
We have shootings happening all over town.

01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:43.859
Do we not need our police department?

01:39:43.859 --> 01:39:45.539
Of course we do.

01:39:45.539 --> 01:39:51.039
We also need our people to be paid properly, to not be put down, to not be wrote up because

01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:54.960
they speak their minds and tell their struggles.

01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:57.520
Unfortunately, that is what is occurring here.

01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:03.480
that is what is occurring here. Now the Chief said we have four crashes and two heart attacks

01:40:03.480 --> 01:40:07.280
and a fire. What would happen if there was a fire?

01:40:07.280 --> 01:40:08.760
Ms. Pearson, your time has expired.

01:40:08.760 --> 01:40:14.160
I want you guys to understand the dire emergency that we're sitting at and we're facing.

01:40:14.160 --> 01:40:19.000
I want you to understand that the Chief and the Fire Chief have issues on their hands

01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:20.000
that they can't handle.

01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:21.000
You're out of order.

01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:22.680
And I want to say out of order.

01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:23.680
You're out of order.

01:40:23.680 --> 01:40:24.680
I want to...

01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:25.680
I'll be back.

01:40:25.680 --> 01:40:26.680
Sue, I believe your hand was up.

01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:43.640
Hi there, Sue Cook.

01:40:43.640 --> 01:40:53.540
I live on Winchester Drive and I have a question because first off I hope I didn't get that

01:40:53.540 --> 01:40:54.780
Little Girl Written Up.

01:40:57.820 --> 01:41:01.760
I gave an impassioned plea last week.

01:41:02.940 --> 01:41:05.500
That is my First Amendment rights.

01:41:05.500 --> 01:41:08.380
My First Amendment rights, which understandably here,

01:41:08.380 --> 01:41:11.300
I guess under number six, is not gonna happen anymore

01:41:11.300 --> 01:41:14.340
because if somebody makes a sound back there,

01:41:14.340 --> 01:41:15.480
you're out of order.

01:41:15.480 --> 01:41:16.780
You're out of order twice.

01:41:17.820 --> 01:41:19.700
Police Chief could escort us out the door.

01:41:19.700 --> 01:41:22.180
Now for me, that's okay because I do need help

01:41:22.180 --> 01:41:24.020
getting down the steps.

01:41:24.020 --> 01:41:29.020
But it is seriously a First Amendment right problem.

01:41:30.280 --> 01:41:34.000
If somebody back there cheers, if somebody boos,

01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:37.580
if somebody claps, recording decorum during meetings,

01:41:37.580 --> 01:41:41.320
the provision has been changed to provide that any person,

01:41:41.320 --> 01:41:46.320
any person, any person who is deemed to be out of order

01:41:47.900 --> 01:41:50.740
or violating the rules of council twice can be removed.

01:41:50.740 --> 01:41:53.540
Somebody made a sound, you're out of order.

01:41:53.540 --> 01:41:57.100
Somebody goes, or clap, you're out of order.

01:41:57.100 --> 01:41:59.540
Somebody claps twice, sir, could you help them out?

01:42:02.180 --> 01:42:03.540
Why?

01:42:03.540 --> 01:42:05.000
What are you scared of?

01:42:06.100 --> 01:42:09.020
Are you scared of us asking a question?

01:42:09.020 --> 01:42:12.880
I know that you and I probably went to school together.

01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:15.860
You could, I mean, there's no problem

01:42:15.860 --> 01:42:17.740
with you answering questions that I'm asking.

01:42:17.740 --> 01:42:19.980
I'm not asking hard questions.

01:42:19.980 --> 01:42:23.240
and I'm not asking him meanly

01:42:23.240 --> 01:42:26.080
but I really really hope

01:42:26.080 --> 01:42:29.200
that I did not hurt that little girl last week

01:42:29.200 --> 01:42:32.420
and I hope that we do get to keep our first amendment right

01:42:32.420 --> 01:42:35.900
also one other question what happened to Juneteenth?

01:42:35.900 --> 01:42:42.260
I noticed that you have American freedom days from June 19th to July 4th

01:42:42.260 --> 01:42:45.980
does that include Juneteenth?

01:42:45.980 --> 01:42:48.980
because the banks are off for Juneteenth

01:42:48.980 --> 01:42:50.980
So I just wondered. Thank you very much.

01:42:50.980 --> 01:42:52.980
Thank you so much.

01:42:52.980 --> 01:42:55.980
Who, um, Okia?

01:43:03.980 --> 01:43:06.980
So I heard a couple things that was kind of important.

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One was that Ms. Stacy said, trust.

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I've been coming to these meetings for maybe a year or something like that.

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There is no trust.

01:43:16.980 --> 01:43:17.980
Fowler.

01:43:17.980 --> 01:43:20.660
There is no trust.

01:43:20.660 --> 01:43:22.800
There's no trust.

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So who do you expect to come to you because they trust you after you've improved over

01:43:26.940 --> 01:43:33.460
and over again who you may be without answering a simple, a very simple question that has

01:43:33.460 --> 01:43:38.060
been asked a bunch of meetings, a bunch of times that you could have answered behind

01:43:38.060 --> 01:43:40.400
closed doors.

01:43:40.400 --> 01:43:45.620
Nobody is willing on this panel to just answer simple questions, but trust me, when you get

01:43:45.620 --> 01:43:52.900
To trust, you do actions that are trustworthy, to gain trust. I don't see that period. There's

01:43:52.900 --> 01:43:59.060
nobody that's going to trust you if you cannot be honest. You cannot answer one question,

01:43:59.060 --> 01:44:07.420
a simple, simple question. Back to what Sue said, what are you guys afraid of? You got

01:44:07.420 --> 01:44:13.500
to be afraid of something. And then let's not forget, to me, in Freeport as an entrepreneur,

01:44:13.500 --> 01:44:14.500
Miller.

01:44:14.500 --> 01:44:19.820
I have faced so many things, but the best fight was when my backup is always against

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the wall.

01:44:21.340 --> 01:44:25.620
I fight real good when my back is against the wall.

01:44:25.620 --> 01:44:27.820
I told you once before, I'm God's child.

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Can nobody stop me, discourage me, steer me wrong, like Wayne has tried to do numerous

01:44:34.740 --> 01:44:38.300
amounts of time, like they are trying to do to freedom.

01:44:38.300 --> 01:44:39.780
I'm glad that I did go through this.

01:44:39.780 --> 01:44:46.860
I'm glad that Josh running against you was the best thing for Freeport. He may not have

01:44:46.860 --> 01:44:53.620
won, but he woke us up. He woke us all the way up. I'm always going to speak for my people

01:44:53.620 --> 01:44:58.440
no matter what. I'm always going to applaud my people. Let's say this, because Miss Stacy

01:44:58.440 --> 01:45:03.940
still ain't got recognition for getting them street lights on Oak. But y'all definitely

01:45:03.940 --> 01:45:09.900
She took a picture and discluded the Fifth Ward Alderman that put that on the agenda with

01:45:09.900 --> 01:45:18.140
only two people without a memo, but she definitely affected positive change around that neighborhood

01:45:18.140 --> 01:45:21.140
and still no thank you.

01:45:21.140 --> 01:45:23.660
That is the saddest thing up here.

01:45:23.660 --> 01:45:30.140
And that lady getting written up for being public about what's going on, sad.

01:45:30.140 --> 01:46:00.140
I remember in 2020 when the Black Lives Matter protest and all that was going on and the wording defund the police came up and everybody was throwing a fit because we need our police, we need our police, but then you come to the city of Freeport where we don't have the police, we don't have the police, we don't have the police, we don't have the police, we don't have the police,

01:46:00.140 --> 01:46:06.140
We don't pay our policemen or our dispatchers a living wage and you don't call that defunding.

01:46:06.140 --> 01:46:13.140
You don't call not paying people to live in the town that you want them to live in by our ordinances defunding.

01:46:13.140 --> 01:46:16.140
I'm just very confused on how any of that works.

01:46:16.140 --> 01:46:23.140
I'm also confused on how that works at the same time that we're doing 40 days of peace,

01:46:23.140 --> 01:46:27.140
which I'm very interested to see how this goes. I hope it goes well.

01:46:27.140 --> 01:46:33.380
but to have 40 days of peace you have to have a police force that wants to work with you

01:46:33.380 --> 01:46:39.240
and work with this city. Underpaid policemen do not really care what they do. I can tell

01:46:39.240 --> 01:46:43.780
you that. I've seen it. We've all seen it. It's all been broadcasted. Also, I have a

01:46:43.780 --> 01:46:49.420
question about the 40 days of peace. If there is not peace during the 40 days, does the

01:46:49.420 --> 01:46:55.140
clock restart or what are we doing? I heard before I walked in, I was listening on my

01:46:55.140 --> 01:46:59.580
and I was at work and I heard talk of prayer in the streets and then a prayer

01:46:59.580 --> 01:47:02.820
thing at a park and all that and I think that's fine. Your faith is your faith.

01:47:02.820 --> 01:47:06.460
Whatever you have to do to make yourself feel comfortable, feel loved, feel

01:47:06.460 --> 01:47:12.660
important, whatever. But there is a church on every block in this city. At what point

01:47:12.660 --> 01:47:17.700
are we going to understand that prayer is nothing without action? You can pray

01:47:17.700 --> 01:47:21.940
all day. I can pray that I can get a Mercedes-Benz next week. If I don't go to

01:47:21.940 --> 01:47:26.580
make that money, work hard. That Benz is not going to fall into my lap. We can pray

01:47:26.580 --> 01:47:32.600
all we want but as a city we need to put some work behind that prayer. Thank you.

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Anyone else?

01:47:41.580 --> 01:47:46.380
Good evening. My name is Cheryl Altman. First I'd like to again thank Alderman

01:47:46.380 --> 01:47:50.780
Stacy for your hard work, Sanders for your hard work, and Simmons for your

01:47:50.780 --> 01:47:56.820
and her hard work. The rest of you, for shame is all I got to say. Shadle, you said that

01:47:56.820 --> 01:48:02.060
you worked for the people, but you never asked any questions. None of the rest of you guys

01:48:02.060 --> 01:48:08.980
asked questions. I don't understand. If you work for the people, ask questions, get information,

01:48:08.980 --> 01:48:17.980
help the citizens out. Second of all, since the last meeting, we've had another gun found.

01:48:17.980 --> 01:48:20.580
Good job, Mayor.

01:48:20.580 --> 01:48:26.140
Second of all, third of all, I hope you're happy that now you're getting the city to

01:48:26.140 --> 01:48:29.820
be a distressed city, Mayor, because the only people you're going to have coming to this

01:48:29.820 --> 01:48:31.580
town is criminals.

01:48:31.580 --> 01:48:35.740
Good people, taxpayers, are going to be out of here.

01:48:35.740 --> 01:48:36.740
No questions asked.

01:48:36.740 --> 01:48:40.540
And Sue, I don't know if she went to school with me or not, but I went to school with

01:48:40.540 --> 01:48:43.060
you, so I know you.

01:48:43.060 --> 01:48:49.240
when the people get up here at first to pray you bow your head say amen at the

01:48:49.240 --> 01:48:55.020
end but when Alderman Stacey gets up here you're like there's a word for that I

01:48:55.020 --> 01:49:00.940
think it's hypocrite. Any other public comments?

01:49:05.500 --> 01:49:11.420
I just want to add to the record that the girl Janelle that was written up she

01:49:11.420 --> 01:49:16.260
She also used to work in the emergency room for many years before she became a dispatcher.

01:49:16.260 --> 01:49:20.060
And I think it's unfair that she was written up for expressing her freedom of speech.

01:49:20.060 --> 01:49:21.540
Thank you.

01:49:21.540 --> 01:49:24.540
Any other public comments?

01:49:24.540 --> 01:49:32.900
I'll read it, Schaefer.

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I just wanted to tie in, well, continue where I started off at.

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I just wanted to say that, you know, as a citizen of Freeport, a resident of Freeport, you know, I am very thankful to be in this city, but it's very, it's very, it's a

01:49:57.500 --> 01:50:05.100
it's a difficult time for me right now with all the things that you have to deal with knowing that

01:50:05.100 --> 01:50:11.420
you're trying to do the right thing you're trying to live your life in a way that brings hope in a

01:50:11.420 --> 01:50:20.779
future for your kids and I just want to say that with everything that I have been through as far as

01:50:20.779 --> 01:50:29.180
with my garage receiving electricity. I think that it's just a shame that living, having

01:50:29.180 --> 01:50:39.699
my lot where it's at, I'm not in a position where I can have electricity in order to secure

01:50:39.699 --> 01:50:50.659
my property and the items that I have. There are several residents and property around Freeport

01:50:50.659 --> 01:50:55.659
that has electricity without a home on it.

01:50:56.060 --> 01:50:59.819
So I just find it that I'm not for sure what's going on.

01:50:59.819 --> 01:51:03.220
I even, my instructor from Highland Community College

01:51:03.220 --> 01:51:07.420
was also contacted during this time.

01:51:08.340 --> 01:51:09.779
For what reason, I do not know.

01:51:09.779 --> 01:51:11.699
It was lies told on me that the city

01:51:11.699 --> 01:51:15.140
was trying to buy my lot from me, which was a complete lie.

01:51:15.140 --> 01:51:20.140
No one has ever came to me with that option.

01:51:20.140 --> 01:51:25.600
I just do not understand. I don't understand what a resistant is. Even the electrician from

01:51:25.600 --> 01:51:31.159
ProSource, he said, I have never dealt with a county like this. What is the problem? It's

01:51:31.159 --> 01:51:38.920
only electricity into an existing garage. He said he'd done many of them in Freeport.

01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:45.979
So I just want to say whatever that's going on in this town that is blocking me from at

01:51:45.979 --> 01:51:49.899
at least receiving electricity so that I can maintain my lot,

01:51:49.899 --> 01:51:51.619
so that I could take care of my plants

01:51:51.619 --> 01:51:55.100
that I just put on there through Highland Community College.

01:51:55.100 --> 01:51:57.420
You know, I don't understand.

01:51:57.420 --> 01:52:00.979
I guess I'm just gonna have to go through another source,

01:52:00.979 --> 01:52:03.399
but I will not silence myself from this.

01:52:03.399 --> 01:52:06.420
It is total discrimination because other people have

01:52:06.420 --> 01:52:08.819
the right to have the same thing that I'm asking for.

01:52:08.819 --> 01:52:12.359
And I just do not understand, like, what is the resistance?

01:52:12.359 --> 01:52:14.000
What's going on?

01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:19.000
I'm paying for it, it's my lot, I just do not understand.

01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:23.119
And I just really hope that you guys look into that

01:52:23.119 --> 01:52:24.960
to find out the reason why.

01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:26.060
Why is that?

01:52:26.060 --> 01:52:27.220
Why is it so hard?

01:52:28.319 --> 01:52:31.520
It shouldn't be a reason when other people have it.

01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:33.039
Thank you.

01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:36.239
If there's no other, all right, another public comment.

01:52:36.239 --> 01:52:53.319
Before I close out tonight in prayer, I just wanted to share a scripture, John 16 and 33.

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These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace.

01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:13.720
In the world you shall have tribulations, that's trials and sorrow, but take heart because

01:53:13.720 --> 01:53:19.199
I have overcome the world.

01:53:19.199 --> 01:53:20.199
Let us pray.

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Father God, in the name of Jesus, I praise you and I thank you for being who you are.

01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:38.439
Thank you Lord Jesus for ordering our steps according to your word, giving us answered

01:53:38.439 --> 01:53:40.840
questions and understandings.

01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:52.439
Father God, this journey has not been easy, but it's a journey and we don't quit, we keep

01:53:52.439 --> 01:53:53.439
it moving.

01:53:53.439 --> 01:54:14.439
So I just praise you and I thank you for being God all by yourself. I thank you for that peace of God that surpasses all understanding and I thank you Father God for this council. I thank you that we are free.

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This is a free port. It's not we'll be free. It's not going to be free. We are already free.

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I put my hope and my trust in you. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.

01:54:36.439 --> 01:54:42.439
If there's no further public comment, I will entertain a motion for adjournment.

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Motion made by Shadle, seconded by Parker. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:51.460
Aye.