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Alderpersons, Klemm? Here. Johnson? Here. Simmons is absent, Parker? Here. Stacy? Here. Shadle? Here. Sanders is absent, Sellers? Here. We have a quorum.

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Thank you. If you could join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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And if we could get approval of the agenda.

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So moved.

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Second.

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Go ahead.

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Motion by Sellers, second by Klemm.

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All in favor?

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Aye. Opposed? The motion carries. Approval of the minutes from September 15th of 2025. So moved. Second. Motion by Parker, second by Sellers. All in favor? Aye. And opposed? That motion carries. Next is public comments, which none were listed. And we go to item 7, discussion of the following budgets by City Manager Boyer and Director Lutcher.

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and John.

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All right.

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Good evening, everyone.

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Good evening.

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Good evening.

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Tonight, as your agenda will state, let's see here, the first one we're going to discuss

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is general funds, so this is revenue, and I admittedly asked pretty small up there,

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but I'll hit some of the highlights.

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So some of our larger revenue codes or property taxes in the 2026 budget, we're looking at

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about $3,100,000.

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So that's a slight increase.

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Once the estimated EAV is received from the county, we'll have a better idea.

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So that doesn't really happen until a little later in the fall, but that's what we're estimating

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right at the moment.

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Also we've got income tax, that's coming up to $4.3 million.

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So we receive estimates from the Illinois Municipal League on income tax, and we receive

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funds from the state based on the 2020 census.

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The increase, we're increasing at about $100,000.

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Replacement corporate, I'm sorry, the replacement corporate tax, that's, we've got that budget

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at $668,000 this year, at this point.

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The estimate is generated by the state.

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and then we have the municipal sales tax that is estimated at 6,200,000.

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So that's just an increase of 500 from last year.

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Then we've got the municipal sales tax home rule.

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We're estimating that at 4.7 million.

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And then municipal auto renting tax is a very small amount, 12,000.

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As a matter of fact, for efficiency purposes, I'm going to try to stick to things over six

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figures here.

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So the video game tax slight increase for 2026 to 625,000.

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And then we'll move down to food and beverage tax.

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We're looking at about 895,000 for that.

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The city imposes a 1.25% tax on food and beverages within city limits.

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and this is an increase of $45,000 from last year that we projected.

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The electricity tax is going to be about $830,000 and we're seeing decreased revenue on the

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city's electric tax, most likely due to various conservation efforts.

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Then we've got natural gas tax, that's about $660,000 and that's holding fairly steady.

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and then we've got the telephone utility tax at $173,000 and this has been dropping for many years and it's decreasing $25,000 this year as people get away from the hard-line phones.

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Then we've got the cable television franchise tax at $215,000. Again, we're seeing more competition and more people cutting the cord when it comes to cable.

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Miller. With that, I'm going to skip down a little further to video gaming licensing.

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So that is $43.90. Yep, there it is. That's $105,000. That's based on the increase passed

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earlier this year. So it is $105,000. Moving along, we've got construction and zoning

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Permanent, 225,000 is what we're budgeting and it's the same as last year.

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I'm going to move down to airport hangar rent that again is going to be about $150,000 for

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the year, similar to last year because we haven't made any changes there.

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Also airport grant, we're budgeting at about $100,000 and then airport fuel sales, $190,000

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that's a bit lower than past years and also since we didn't have the air show we did

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and so on.

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We're also going to be able to lose out on some of the fuel sales.

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If you'll allow me to cruise on down to 4,700 fines, traffic, DUI, ordinance, et cetera,

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we're budgeting at about $150,000 for fines and DUI levies.

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Moving down to 4730 city ordinance fines, we're budgeting 77,000, budgeted lower than

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and what we received in 2025 due to one significant fine

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and an outside contractor.

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So we received, I can't remember if it was about 35,000

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we received from Surf Internet due to the fact

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that they were working without permits

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and an unlicensed contractor in town.

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And so we had a pretty significant fine related to that.

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Moving down a little further to 4820 Water & Sewer

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in lieu of taxes, 102,000.

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and that's the same as last year and we're wrapping it up here. We've got a couple more items, 4885, that's interest income. We're budgeting about $900,000 for 2026 and then transfer from Fund 332 at $826,000 and that is from Ambulance Revenue Fund. It's 54% by ordinance. So this is a transfer in there.

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to the general fund.

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So our total general fund revenue is $26,134,000,

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and that is what we're budgeting for 2026.

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So any questions on revenue?

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I just have.

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Yep, Alderman Sellers.

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Are you?

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Did you want to go?

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No, go ahead.

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OK.

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I just wanted to know the video gaming license.

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Do they have to renew that license every year,

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or is that just a one-time number, 101, the very first one at the top.

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Yeah, 4080.

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No, 4390.

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Oh, 4390.

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That's the annual renewal and we doubled those with that ordinance change.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And then the other one was the overweight and oversized load, is that the new thing

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we just passed?

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Yes.

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Are you looking?

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Okay.

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I just would like to make a quick comment that it's nice to see those numbers so close together from last year and next year and this year.

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Well, we'd like to see them go up, but yes, we'll take, we'll take. We don't want them going down.

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Yes, what is this airport grant for $100,000?

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I think that's pretty much a placeholder, but go ahead, Michele.

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The PAPI Lights grant is coming through, and also, I don't know if it's going to hit next year, the Terminal Updates, Terminal Updates grant.

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Essentially, when we receive money from the FAA for grant funding, we count that as revenue

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on this side of the ledger.

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With that, I'd like to move into expenses.

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So starting with government buildings.

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So we were hit pretty hard this year with various issues.

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One of them was at the PD, the air conditioning we continue to deal with, but there's about

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a $100,000 claim involved in that because of the brownout issue with the power supply

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coming in.

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But this particular fund carries janitorial services and elevator maintenance, HVAC maintenance,

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and 50,000 for general pairs potentially could be used for tuck pointing City Hall as well

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as in that's also carried over in the capital outlay. But anyway, this is a government buildings

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that we've got so far, including natural gas. And like I mentioned, salt sheds is also involved

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in the government buildings due to the fact that they are, we've got some fully depreciated

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Structure.

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We've got some fully depreciated structures that we use for our salt sheds.

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So any questions on government buildings?

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I just have one. When you're talking about the air, oh I'm sorry, when you're talking

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about the air condition issues and stuff, that's not what we have the problem with.

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Banksburg-Agner also, that's something different.

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We are related to that. We had so many failures with the compressor. It also contaminated the cooling or the copper coils in the exchange unit. So we're having some associated issues with that.

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okay another yeah so so is that i know we had um had said that they were going to get um uh was it

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insurance or whatever it was so did that ever come through that money to help take care of that or

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and michelle can verify that but i think we received what a hundred thousand dollars from

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the insurance company so they're in the process of trying to collect on that okay thank you

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Okay. With that, let's move on to the Cemetery Care Fund. Yes.

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Sure. Just I wanted to emphasize that we do need to get Tuck pointing City Hall

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next year. We have a lot of issues around the building and it may actually take a

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couple years of budget to be able to get the whole building done, but we have some

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issues on the second story roof on the back that need to be addressed and we

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were actually really hoping to get to it this year and we're not able to with the

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budget so it is very important that we get that project started we don't have

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tons of options with City Hall because it's a historical building. Thanks

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Darren this year we did the we invested in the storm windows here at City Hall

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that should hopefully impact positively this winter but it's also going to

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preserve the historic windows and the maintenance required to do it. Yes.

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For the year before they did some work around the outside of the building so now what there's more leaking?

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No, no that that was a drainage project and we got the drainage routed away from

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the building before it would run drain toward the building it would end up in

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and the basement and now we've resolved all that drainage running away and we

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also improved the the gutters downspout that runs out to the curb. So that's been

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resolved. Okay with that I'd like to go on to the Cemetery Care Fund. So we're

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only able to use the interest for this fund per ordinance. So we only budget for

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revenues. So this year we're looking at about $12,000 this year and that would

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We would, we would really receive about $6,000 in interest and it's a pretty small fund and we don't really do a whole lot with it.

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It does help us with some of the items at the cemetery.

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I have a question. At one while there was no grave sites available for vets. Has that been corrected?

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That's not true. No. That's not true.

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okay you're saying that there there are plenty of places for vets there's pay pay plots no no i think

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vets are interred at no cost but there are plenty of vet vet locations for veteran it's just open

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and

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Again, I'm not sure who who you know says stuff like that. I just I that's not true. So

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Any other questions on the cemetery care fund?

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With that we'll be moving on to the neighborhood housing fund

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So the primary source of revenue for property taxes

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So property tax transfer tax budgeted at $225,000 for 2026 and that's a slight increase from this year.

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In addition, we have the interest and it's essentially the same as last year.

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The fund balance

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reserve transfer. This is the use of any remaining funds from 2025 and we have a couple of large demos

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we're working on for 2026.

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in addition to that you've got the economic development projects those are

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budgeted at $20,000 for next year the real estate taxes that's a fund six six

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one zero once the city acquires the property we are liable for the property

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taxes until our paperwork is approved for exemption so we budget about ten

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thousand dollars for that in addition 70 20 land and property acquisition we're

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We're budgeting approximately $20,000 for that.

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And then demolition, we are budgeting $990,000.

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Demos that we do not have, grants or large plan demos, for instance, like the Holiday

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Inn can be considered a large demo.

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So are we taking down the old Holiday Inn?

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Is this price including that?

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We're budgeting funds that we can use for that if we're able to gain ownership of it through the court process right now

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It's working its way through the court process

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Okay, that will move on to tourism

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Hotel motel tax is one of our revenues

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News, Item 4120, the main revenue source for the Tourism Fund and increased budgeted by

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15,000 over last year, or 2025 I should say, 4885 interest is going to be the same carryover.

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And then this is also where we provide funding for in part the Greater Freeport Partnership.

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So the increase line item to $263,500 and we'll be decreasing any TIF support to equal

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the amount contracted to the GFP.

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Miscellaneous expense, that'd be the trolley for Tuddy Baker days and also the same budget

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as last year.

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Then we have transfer out to general fund and that is used $25,000 to support the wages

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of the Community Development Director.

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With that, I'd like to move on to Debt Service Fund.

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Per governmental accounting rules, the city has a debt service fund.

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Resources are transferred into the fund and the payments come out of the fund for the

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following bonds.

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The first bond is 2013A, that's the central fire station, and that will come to an end

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and others.

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We have a total of 3,000

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funds that will be fully taken care of in January 1, 2028.

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Additionally to that, we have 2015A and that's a refunding

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bond which was refinanced.

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The bond includes downtown TIF, library, sanitary, sewer and

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storm sewer projects and that will be completely paid for in

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January of 2034.

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of 2036 and a downtown TIF ends in January of 2033. Then we have the 2019-A

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roads bond that will be completed in January of 2034. In 2020 we took on a

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pension obligation bond that will be end in January of 2041. We also have an

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additional roads and paver bond that will be complete in January of 2031 and then

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the 2022 bond fire engine and aerial so that will end in January of 2033 any

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questions on debt service fine we've got the health care fund so this fund can

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and

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the City of San Diego.

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We have a lot of funding.

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We have a lot of funding that controls the inflow of revenue and

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outflow of expenses for medical insurance costs.

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Revenues are received from employees, retirees and the city.

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And we do offer voluntary life vision and ID protection, all of

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which are paid in full by the employee, if that is something

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We're currently finalizing numbers with our provider and there may be some changes when we bring this back to council in early November

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So essentially the end of the year the fall is when we do all of these quotes with the insurance company

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We're also negotiating various

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Contracts with the bargaining units. So this all is going to affect the health care fund

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So we'll be bringing that back for a change toward the end of the budget process

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Davis. Any other questions on Health Care Fund? Okay. Landfill Closure Fund. This fund

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tracks expenses for the landfills. Even though they're closed, they still represent significant

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cost to the landfills.

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Gills, they still represent significant cost to the city.

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The first one I'd like to point out here is $47.95 and that's the transfer station rent.

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The city records $29,500 annually in revenue from the contract we have with Gills.

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We received a one-time payment of $1.4 million for 50 years use of the transfer station.

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also 4960 is transfer in that's from General Fund this has been one of the

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items on the audit that's because they have a they'd like to see us have a

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standing amount of about five million dollars in this account so we're

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building that back up so we're budgeting five hundred thousand to go into the

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landfill closure fund and and that'll slowly build over time to equal that

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5 million dollars that they'd like to see in that account essentially taking care

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of the landfill until the EPA allows us to call it closed and officially resolved

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so like no more no more sampling would be required no more maintenance will be

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required they would consider it inert and done so that's that's the whole point

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We have maintenance we have to do out there every year. It involves the EPA, it involves water sampling at the leachate collection points, it also includes grass mowing and tree cutting and that type of stuff.

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So we've got 6170, which is Contracted Infrastructure Repair and Maintenance, and that's General

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Landfill Repairs.

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We're budgeting about $30,000 there.

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And then 6215 is Depreciation Expense.

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We're basically depreciating the bypass line that was installed a few years ago that drains

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I think, what is it? Cell, cell number four? Yeah, thank you. And then 6430 includes the

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landfill closure expense. So again, the testing and monitoring of all the leachate that's

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out there as required by the EPA. So that's about $365,000 a year. So it's very expensive

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Smith, and Chris, thank you for listening.

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This is a second part of the

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past year of carrying costs.

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Any questions on the landfill closure?

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Okay. Moving on to health and

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environmental funds, garbage.

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Item 4635 is reimbursement of transportation property taxes

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from Gills, an amount of 16,000.

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from residents, $2,839,000, and we have 49.15 fund balance reserve transfers, so the use

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of reserves to balance the year, and then bad debt expense, so that's write-offs for

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uncollected balances, and then disposal and recycling fees, bills paid to Gills monthly,

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and then we have real estate taxes so on the transfer station there are that are

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reimbursed by GILS and last item in this budget item the health and

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environmental 6630 revenue collection services the water and sewer fund charge

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the health and environmental fund for billing services on the monthly water

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bill essentially we're recovering some of our costs related to collecting the

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Trash Fees from from the Water Utility. So any questions on Health and

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Environmental Fund? Okay, moving on to the OVW grant. This is a Violence Against

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Women. We've had this federal grant for eight years. It funds about half of the

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wages for the SVU detective. The grant also assists with funding for Voices and

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and the State's Attorney's Office.

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So that's essentially all that this is used for.

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Any questions on violence against women grant?

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OK.

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Next is Brownfield's grant.

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So this is federal funds for 17 and 19 West Main Street.

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That's the cleaners on Main Street.

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So we're in the process of demolitioning those.

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There's a lot of items that we have to get right the first time.

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And so we're in the process of getting that done now.

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Any questions on this Brownfield grant?

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Yes.

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We have a grant to take care of that.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Just wondering, how long is that going to take?

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When is that going to be done?

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I'm guessing it's going to be later this year,

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early next year.

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But go ahead, Don.

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Yeah.

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We're just waiting on USCPA to give us the green light.

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The contracts have been signed with Fishers.

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We had to do a 30-day notice period that just expired.

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I believe it was October 2nd.

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So we're just waiting for them to give us the thumbs up.

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And we're hoping, I can't promise you,

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but we're hoping to get it done yet

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before the end of the season.

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We won't have it finished, obviously,

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but at least get it down to the point

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where it's not dangerous any longer.

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Thank you.

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Any more questions on Brownfield grant?

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OK.

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Bulletproof vest.

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So the federal funds to purchase new vests for officers.

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So about $5,000.

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Any questions on that?

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All right, moving on to DUI forfeitures.

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So this is restricted funds for use by the police department.

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They are for the purchase of equipment and other items

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that law enforcement handle DUIs.

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Some examples would be radar guns and training for officers.

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So as you can see there, we've got about $13,000 in there

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for, or I'm sorry, $64,000 for the revenue side

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and $64,000 on the expense side.

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Any questions on DUI forfeiture?

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No.

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Moving on to K-9. So these are restricted funds, donations for support of our K-9 officers, rather a small account. So if you got any questions, I can answer them now, otherwise we'll move on.

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With that, we'll move on to the sex offender funds. So sex offender funds must register and pay a fee annually.

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Approximately two-thirds of this fee is forwarded to the state agencies and the city retains one-third.

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Funds must be used for official purposes related to the sex offender registry.

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As you can see, we've got about $5,000 in revenue and about $5,000 in expenses.

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Any questions on that?

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Okay, the next one is the Explorer Club and these are restricted donations to support the activities of the Explorer Club

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Any questions on that?

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I'm gonna let the Deputy Chief Davis mention

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So we currently don't have an Explorer Club. It used to be kind of run in connection with Boy Scouts and we had an officer that was a Boy Scout that ran that. It generally was for younger individuals interested in possibly becoming a police officer.

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Any other questions?

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All right, moving on to auxiliary police. So these are restricted donations to support the activities of the auxiliary police.

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Similar to what the county has, these are

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essentially just a reserve officers that can come in and help out on an event.

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I don't believe we have very many people in it, but it is here.

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Any questions on the auxiliary police?

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Okay

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IDHA Strong Communities, this is our demolition grant. As you can see here, we're

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moving rapidly through here about $120,000 and we will use that $120,000 on demolitions.

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Any questions on that?

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Okay

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ETSB 911

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So this is funds are received from the ETSB for

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911 Center to purchase items such as software and equipment

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As you can see we're budgeting about $81,000 in revenue and

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we have various items that need to be updated, machinery and equipment

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and education and training are the main ones

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questions on that? Okay, the next one is Department of Transportation Safe

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Streets for All. So this is in progress. The total grant of $400,000 plus a city

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match of $100,000 and we have already provided our match at this point. So this

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will go into various projects throughout town to increase safety at dangerous

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Intersections, Increase Crossing Guard.

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Foward, notification, lighting, signs, and paint striping, just to overall increase the safety.

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Any questions on that?

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Grants to close in 2025. So we've provided reports for the following grants. However,

00:30:21.699 --> 00:30:29.379
we plan on them closing in 2025, so therefore a budget for 26 will not be required. So they are

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the IDNR round two demo grant, the DECO, a DCEO demo grant, an additional DCEO demo grant, CDBG

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housing rehab grant, and ILETSB recruitment and retention grant, and pre-disaster mitigation grant,

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So those will be closing out in 2025. Any questions on those grants? I'm sorry, I didn't hear when you said the, when it would be closing, you said the end of 2025? Is that what you said?

00:31:11.819 --> 00:31:16.419
They will close in 2025, so they're not carried over in 2026. That's why they're not in the budget.

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Have we, how much of that money have we not used? Of what? Which one? Of the demo grant. The flood mitigation grant? Or the IDNR round two? I think the first one you said. Wayne, can you comment on that?

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Yes, the City of Freeport spent more money than any community in the state of Illinois at $2.7 million of the $3.5 million.

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And the reason that the $800,000 was not spent is it's a voluntary grant and the people chose not to sell their property.

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All right. All right. With that, we'll move on to Pretzel City Transit grant. So this

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is a federal grant. It's about $198,000 in federal dollars, and it goes toward maintaining

00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:28.299
the Pretzel City Transit. In addition to that, the next grant is the

00:32:28.299 --> 00:32:36.299
for the Downstate Operating Grant, and that is also for the Pretzel City Transit at $1,431,000 in state dollars.

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Obviously, Pretzel City Transit is going to continue to operate for the year of 2026.

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Any questions?

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Alright, that completes my presentation for this evening.

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Thank you very much.

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Is there any other budget discussions?

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Seeing none, we would open for public comments if anybody would like to speak.

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Seeing none, I'd like to make a motion for adjournment.

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Second.

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Motion made by Parker, second by Sellers.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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we are adjourned Madam Mayor. Yeah we'll whatever you need Kurt about two minutes

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okay well so we'll we'll come back as soon as