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I'm proud of that. Hope you had one bad year at Trails. How was yours?

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Oh, my car insurance. I've got no claims on it. It was a thousand bucks this year.

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I no longer have that Gallagher. I went to State Farm. State Farm cut it even below what I paid last year.

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Oh, really? I need to shop around.

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Oh, I'll tell you, somebody told me...

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Ted Fritz is the one. He's out there by the McDonald's.

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Good evening, Justin, could you give the invocation this evening?

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Good evening, Madam Mayor, Council, as I won't see most of you probably until the new year,

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and Mary Christmas.

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I hope you all have a great holiday with your family and friends.

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Same to you.

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Merry Christmas.

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Let me pray for you, please.

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Father, we are grateful to you tonight.

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Father of spirits in whom we live and move and have our being as the giver of life.

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And Lord, even as I look around this chamber tonight and see the way that you've poured

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you've poured out your blessing upon so many both in terms of physical well-being, life

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itself, but also gifts and abilities to serve one another.

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Lord I pray that you would just continue to bless and help for tonight in terms of the

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business at hand.

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Just pray that you would continue to help this council as well as the directors, the

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Mayor, and others, Lord, to make decisions that are good for our community, that justice,

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truth, integrity, humility would mark the work of each one here, and Lord we thank you

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again that you have poured out your blessing so freely upon all as you are the Father of

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lights in whom there is no variableness, no shadow of turning, so we ask these things

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in the name of Christ our Lord amen and I apologize madam clerk I didn't realize

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you weren't seated anytime okay so now we'll officially call this meeting to

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order madam clerk would you please take the role mayor Miller here Alderpersons

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Clem, Monroe, Simmons is absent, Parker, Stacy, Shadle, Sanders, and Sellers are

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you present? Thank you. Perfect. Okay next is the Pledge of Allegiance led by

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Alderman Sanders if you could please stand and join us.

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America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, one God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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Item number one is approval of the agenda.

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However, we will be removing item number 17.

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It's not quite ready to go.

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Is there a motion to approve?

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So moved.

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Second.

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Moving motion.

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Mayor Miller.

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Made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Klemm.

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Alderman, Monroe. Do we have to vote to remove that item from the agenda? This would be the vote. So right. So if you want to approve it with the amendment there, it could be handled through this because you're approving the agenda as amended. However, Alderman, Monroe, if you want to have it separated out for a separate vote on specifically to remove that item and whether that's, you know,

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and

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May I ask for clarification on the rules? What does the ordinances say we should do?

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It can be specified there, but a motion has been made to approve the agenda with the amendment there, but if you want to make a motion to have it

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I'll make a motion to have it separated out for a separate vote.

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second. So we have a motion made by Alderman Monroe, seconded by Alderman Stacy to have a separate roll call on removing item number 17. With that, Madam Clerk, would you take the roll on that portion of the amendment only? So does everybody understand that? If you wanted to just make this one motion the way it was originally stated, then your vote would be no. If you'd like to

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We're having a separate vote on only agenda item number 17. If you would like it left

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on it's a yes vote if you would like 17 removed it's a no vote did I say that

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correctly yes for Sanders Sellers no so so let me clarify so the motion that

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aid initially to approve the agenda was with item 17 removed okay that was a

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A motion to approve the Agenda with Item 17 removed. That was motioned by Shadle and seconded by Klemm.

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Okay. Monroe has asked for a, to not have to vote on that amended Agenda. He wants to vote separately on Item 17.

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Whether or not it should be removed from the Agenda or not. So he's just asking to have a vote on the removal of Item 17.

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and Shadle.

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That's what we're doing.

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Right.

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Just whether or not 17 should be removed for a separate vote to determine whether or not

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you guys are going to discuss it tonight.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So a yes means there will be.

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Right.

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So a yes right now is to say that's separated out for a separate vote as to whether or not

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we're going to talk about it tonight or not.

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Klemm?

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No.

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Monroe?

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Yes.

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Parker?

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No.

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Stacy?

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Yes.

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And Shadle?

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I have a tie vote no I don't no I have four yeses and a three motion passes to

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have a separate vote on 17 was that the separate vote then okay to break it out

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separately because your your vote James is that you wanted it not voted as a

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part of approving the agenda you wanted to vote on it separately right so you

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want to talk about it tonight right is that what your position is right

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Fowler.

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Okay.

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That vote was four to three, so it should stay on the agenda.

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So then, Madam Clerk, take the roll on the agenda as is.

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As is.

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As is.

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As is.

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As is, including item number 17.

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Including?

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But I don't have a motion for that.

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No.

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Your motion was to take it off, sir?

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Monroe

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Your motion was to take it off. You wanted to talk about it separately as to whether or not it should be removed or not.

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No, my motion was to keep it on the agenda.

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But if, I mean we voted four to three that

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Agenda

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To keep it on the agenda, correct.

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I thought the vote four to three

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and

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Mr.

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Hicks.

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And the next roll call was to vote on it separately with being removed.

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That's what I thought it was.

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So.

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Okay.

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That sounds like we need to hold for it.

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Right.

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To whether or not to remove it separately or to remove it now.

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Right.

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So the next roll call will be do you want item number 17 removed for a later date?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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a later date or a later date no talked about tonight well that's what that's

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what we were doing in the first place no that was if it would could be if it

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could be removed.

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So what are we voting on? And what does a yes vote mean?

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Whether or not you guys want 17 removed now from the agenda.

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Whether we want it removed?

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Right, for, right.

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To be discussed at some later date.

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Some move.

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Discussion?

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Yep.

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No.

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Sure, I don't, what do you want to talk about?

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and

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the

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Council.

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Is it going to stay on the agenda or is it not?

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That's all this is.

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It was asked to be removed by staff, but if you want to talk about it, then put it back

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on.

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The point of this is and the question that I have, there were no roof repairs for Hangar

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J or Hangar O on the previous vote upon by this Council in a unanimous vote to approve

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& Me, and the City of San Diego.

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And we've been working with them to

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put money toward roof repairs. And now it's appeared on here

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with information

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said that we had a bid opening and we've received two bids for

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something that was not authorized for spending of money

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not by the Council.

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So my question is

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A, there's no discussion, so now we're putting it down the road

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Adler, Mayor of San Diego, Joe, and a couple of others.

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I am very pleased to be here today to address the issues of

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the

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health and safety of the community and to address the issues of the

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health and safety of the community and to address the issues of the

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for roof repair for J hanger and there was terminal updates of 50,000 that's

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what's in the software for a hundred and twenty thousand for that line item but

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that that the money was budgeted for the new hanger not for I am and I'm saying

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what was discussed and what we we went through I pulled the video so my

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My question is, is why is staff going off and spending money that's not been approved or

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appropriated for that function?

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Manager Boyer.

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I'd just like to answer your question, Jay Hanger needs a new roof, so does Oh Hanger.

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This has been discussed, it's been requested, so we have an issue with the way the bid worked

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out and we're asking to remove it from the agenda.

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That's all.

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So that's what's before you. Are we going to keep it on the agenda or not? It was asked to be removed, so the vote is, the motion is to leave it on. Do you want to leave it on? Darren, do you have some insight?

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Just to clarify, so it's the...

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Hold up, hold up, hold up.

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Wait, I have the floor.

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No, you didn't have the floor.

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I actually did give him the floor.

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Well, I've been pointing, I wanted to follow up on this discussion.

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Okay, I'll call on you next.

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Well, I wanted to get it on the wall right now. I'll call on you next. Darren, you have the floor.

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Tonight is the approval, James. If you guys voted down, then it's not approved.

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There's nothing been approved for the bid. It was just, it's in the budget to get a bid.

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That's what we did. So tonight is the approval, whether you approve it or not. That's what the vote is.

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So if you voted down, it's not approved to spend the money.

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So point of clarification.

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just so that way we don't have anyone upset alderman sanders go ahead so the

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point of clarification is is the money was put forward for hanger upgrades so

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that we can at some point complete the work that was never done inside of our

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and others, and that is the former manager of the new main

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hanger, the one that was repaired for airport operations,

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for a pilot lounge and other improvements.

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And now we are going and we're trying to change what was

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approved last year to use that money for something else.

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And that isn't how this works.

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That's not how the manager form of government works.

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Attorney Zito? Ultimately right now it's coming before you if you guys don't want

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it's for the council to decide do you want to expend the money you got to bid

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to do these two things there if you don't want to approve it then as Darren

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said you can vote to say no. So but clarification again if we vote to approve

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to spend the money we can't just we would have to vote to change our budget

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to spend the money differently. Is that not correct? No. Go ahead, Director. I don't

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think the budget is specific to which hanger letter there. I don't think the

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budget was. That's what I'm hearing Michelle say, right? We put in the

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and

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May I remind everybody, it's been requested to remove this item from the agenda. Thank you.

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Okay, so again, the vote, Alderman Sanders.

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And I'd like to know why that request is being made to pull it off the agenda.

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Manager Boyer.

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Because we have an issue with the bid.

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Okay.

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We had two bidders.

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That's the clarification that we're looking for. We didn't hear that part.

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Let him finish.

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and so this is why we're having this discussion because full details of why we're pulling it off the agenda has not been clarified and we need that clarity as he was requesting or suggesting and we're not getting it and if we've got to get it trickled out to us on meetings after meetings it's something we should be considering how is it that the administration is doing or the staffing

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is doing business without the... Well, that was my comment at the very beginning.

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We're moving item number 17 because it wasn't ready. So, so let's take a vote on it.

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Do you want to leave 17 on or remove it? So, Alderman Parker? Yes or no? I mean, what

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if, it's so confusing here. Yes to keep it on, no to take it off, or what, how do we do this?

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No.

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Number 17, removed and discussed at a later date.

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To remove it.

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Okay, so if you want to remove it, then it's a yes vote.

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Thank you.

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Are we ready to vote?

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Sanders?

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Alderman Simmons.

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once we remove it though it will come back for discussion not right am I

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correct correct so if they want to approve any bid it will have to come

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back to you guys which that's the normal procedure it's a bid you can Darren so

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we can only hold this bid for 30 days so once if it doesn't pass this meeting you

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could bring it back up I believe at the first meeting in January otherwise the

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bid would not be you know it would not be valid any longer unless we got a

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separate authorization from the low bidder to extend the bid time okay if you

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want the bit if you want it removed from the item for discussion to a later date

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Vote Yes.

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Ready Madam Mayor? I'm ready. Yes. Your vote is yes.

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Yeah, it's confusing that it is. Sellers? Yes. Klemm? Yes. Monroe? No. Simmons?

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Yes. Parker? Yes. Stacy? Yes to have it removed tonight. Yes. Shadle? Yes.

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the motion passes seven to one the item 17 will not be heard tonight so now

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before you is item number one which is the agenda minus number 17 I believe we

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can go back to the original of Shadle Klemm please take the vote

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Sanders, Sellers, Klemm, Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, and Shadle.

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The motion passes seven to one.

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Item number two is approval of the minutes from the regular meeting on December 2nd, 2024.

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Is there a motion to approve?

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Motion made by Shadle, seconded by Parker. Madam Clerk, would you please take the vote?

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Is a voice vote okay on that, Mayor? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? That motion passes.

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We have some public comments, although I don't know whether they're on agenda items or not.

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Butch, Butch, Broughton, you wanted to speak on an agenda item?

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to speak on an agenda item.

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I was looking forward to move the garage that I want to build.

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They have it down at 15 feet. First they said it was 10. Now it's 15 feet from the line and I'm requesting a variance for 10 feet for a couple of reasons. I know 5 feet doesn't sound like very much, but we have several real old oak trees and I'm trying to stay away from the root system of these trees and also it makes the, because we're putting out other, and it makes the yard very narrow. So if I could get the 10 feet as opposed to the 15 feet.

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and the other everybody else voted yes and I had a neighbor that said if I

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wanted them to come tonight they would come and just by that they were in favor

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of it. Okay, Director Duckman are you acceptable for on your end? No he I think

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he was just making a comment he's the petitioner for the variation so I didn't

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Stonyman, Legend,動 sorry, thriller,

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Brian Walton.

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蒡 정도 agenda number´5, swearing the new firefighter.

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take you and appreciate my gratitude for the work that you

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guys do, especially when it came to taking out the fire

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and I have been taking off the fire that happened on Carroll Street like two weeks ago, seeing you guys in action at 1 a.m., like literally kicking down doors to like save people's lives and put out the fire, like I've never had more sense of a community and I appreciate the work that you guys put your lives on the line for, so thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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You didn't say whether you were on an agenda item. Which number? It's going to be B and C basically. The finance report does not include capital project funds in a summary format and I know we're spending a lot of money on street repairs and that's

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and more. Water, sewer, and stormwater funds include capital items that are not current

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to nature. Current to nature is defined as current fiscal year expenditures. Capital goes

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over a number of years. They should be removed and placed in a capital budget for those specific

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Funds, right underneath each one, so that you can have an idea of your gains and losses

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in that fund for that particular period in time.

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So the capital grant revenue investment earnings, IEPA loans, are capital financing sources.

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Capital grant expense, capital outlay, capital principal, are capital financing uses.

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is also missing, so we do not have a clear idea of the true gain and loss.

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Depreciation is also a capital financing source as well for the capital budget.

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And back on to ordinance 86, I would avoid and change it to rent or rental agreement

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in all cases.

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You do not want to capitalize these places if possible

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under the new lease GASB pronouncements.

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So I would strongly suggest rethinking that.

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I would add a CPI indicator to the rental agreement

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or require a new rental rate for each year as things go up.

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Goff. These agreements should be part of the consent agreement, in my opinion, as the City

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Manager should have the right to sign these agreements because they're very small in nature

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and shouldn't be at the board level for discussion over small potatoes in my mind. But the process

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S. should be at the board level and who wants. Resolution 135, here is a case that encumbrance

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accounting should be in place and the quote should have been brought to the board in September

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either through a consent agreement or agenda or as a resolution. The City Manager should

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have the ability to approve small capital projects.

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Thank you, Mr. McGullough. Your time is up.

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The budgeted level of control. That's all. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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That concludes public comments. We'll move on to consent agenda.

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The consent agenda is considered to be routine in nature and act as one motion unless there's a member of the Council that would like to have something removed for further discussion.

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Is there anything, Council?

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Not. Consent agenda consists of approving to receive and place on file the minutes from the appropriation ordinance dated December 2nd,

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The schedule of the regular meeting of the City of Freeport for 2025, the reports for building permit, fire department and police department for November 2024, the finance report and the cash and investment report for October 2024, the community development block grant housing rehabilitation grant expenditures, as well as the finance bills payable in the total of $6,555,518.96 and payroll for pay period ending November 30th.

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May 30, 2024 in the total of $638,596.08. Is there a motion to approve?

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So moved. Second.

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Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Madam Clerk, would you please take the roll?

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Sanders?

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Gotta wake him up. Yes.

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Sellers? Aye.

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Klemm? Aye.

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Monroe? Aye.

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Simmons? Aye.

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Parker? Aye.

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and Shadle. Motion passes 8 to 0.

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for the audience, and also the viewing audience and other fire departments throughout the state.

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Our new firefighter, Kelly Barani. She started last Friday on the 9th of, sorry, last Monday, the 9th of December,

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and she'll be leaving us to go to the Fire Academy. January 6th, we'll be turning to March 7th.

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We'll be here to have her back to the department in front of all of our members that she'll be returning back to this ship before tonight. We're here to welcome you to the department.

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Thank you everybody. This evening, Mr. Bush and I are here on behalf of the Police and Fire Commission and we get the opportunity to meet a lot of talented individuals looking to join our Southern Department.

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and one of the questions that we consistently ask ourselves is this the kind of person that we would want showing up on our front steps in our time of need and if they don't pass that test they don't make it here and we're pleased to say that you made it here so that means that the entire commission on behalf of the city believes in you and you are supported by an amazing team up there today you heard some well-deserved compliments earlier this morning so thank you for making those a compliment

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So, on behalf of the Commission, it's my honor to be able to read your Official Commission.

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So, Official Commission, City of Freeport, order of Fire and Police Commission, to all community present shall come.

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Kelly Berenick, having been duly appointed to the position of firefighter, aimed for the City of Freeport in the County of Stevenson in the State of Illinois,

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Illinois, for the term from the 9th day of December 2024 until her successor shall have been deemed appointed and qualified, is hereby fully authorized and empowered to assume and perform all the duties of her said office, according to the law and the ordinance of said city, and all persons are required to respect her in discharge of her said duty, by order of the board and fire chief committee.

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Congratulations.

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and you can just raise your right hand and repeat after me.

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I, Kelly A. Berenick, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States

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and the Constitution of the State of Illinois

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and I will faithfully discharge the duties

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of the Office of Firefighter

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Firefighter, according to the best of my ability, according to the best of my ability, congratulations, thank you.

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I just want to say I'm very excited to be here and I look forward to serving the citizens report. Thank you very much, it's an honor.

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Okay, we'll move on to item number six, which is the second reading of ordinance 2024-83.

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Could you please read this?

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Fiscal Year 2024, Reappropriation Ordinance.

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Thank you.

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Director Richter?

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Thank you, Your Honor.

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The City Manager went over my memo at first reading. I will hit some of the high points and just go through the memo. I don't think you want to hear me read the whole thing.

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At the end of each fiscal year, the City Council amends the appropriation ordinance for that year to take into account necessary revenue and expense adjustments.

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Starting off in the general fund, we've made small changes to some reimbursements that we received for fire and police salaries and training reimbursements.

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We've also included some small grant from IPRF, which is our work comp insurance carrier.

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You'll see some other references in the memo to items that were purchased with that grant.

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They are from our work comp carrier and they need to be for employee safety or ergonomics or, you know, keeping people away from work comp claims.

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We also increased right away permit revenues. We really got into that this year with Aaron's help and streamlined that process better of collecting more funds in that area.

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We received additional airport grant revenues and then some insurance proceeds and that kind of thing.

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Going to the expense side of the general fund you'll see increase in the city clerk for her

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to purchase an item from that grant that I was referring to from IPRF our work comp carrier.

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In the airport department you'll see offsetting adjustments so we received grant revenue and

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and now we have grant expense for a wash in that area.

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We did have a, let's see, increase to tree assistance

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of 300 or I'm sorry, 30,000 in forestry

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due to emergency tree removals.

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We did have also in community development

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and the building department,

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which also works out of the community development area.

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We had a change earlier in the year

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that was approved by council

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in the staffing of that department.

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So you'll see wages go from one area of the department

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from community development into the building department

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because of that staffing change, I'm sorry, opposite.

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We had a planner was hired

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and we did not hire an extra nuisance person

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that was included in the 24 budget.

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That's pretty much general fund.

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We did have a change in projects fund,

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We had a decrease in the amount of fund balance we're going to need to use in neighborhood housing. That's the fund we use for demolitions.

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Small changes in the health care fund. And then you'll see various changes in grants. So sometimes we get grants during the middle of the year that we don't know about when we're doing the budget.

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Fowler.

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So, now is when I'm adding things to the budget for those grants or in a couple of these cases

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we took them away.

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For example, the FEMA BRIC grant and the FEMA HMGP grant, we had projected to receive those

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this year.

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Those grants haven't come through yet.

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I believe they're still being worked on or being held up at the other, at the funding

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agency.

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So, like I said, there's various little tweaks to grants.

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The Library Fund had a few adjustments and those adjustments were taken to the Library

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Board and reviewed by them and approved by them.

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The MFT Fund, we had a change, we reclassified some expenses to rebuild Illinois funds.

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The state of Illinois specifically wanted those accounted for and I believe that was

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all Pearl City Road, Darren Shakes.

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Some adjustments, Fire, Public Safety, and in the TIFF, some changes, Street Improvement Fund, the 1% Home Rule Sales Tax increase that was done at the beginning of this year, those revenues have now begun to flow into that fund, there was nothing budgeted when that was passed because we did not know at the time we did the 2024 budget, so that has been added, we added a $175,000 grant in Street Improvement.

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Arpa funds that Stevenson County assisted us with Locust Avenue.

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Capital Improvement Fund, small changes there.

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That was accounting for the support we received

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from Freeport Township to purchase the Asphalt Hotbox.

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So you'll see the revenue come in

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and the purchase go out in that fund.

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Fire Improvement, you'll see some grant activity

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that we added in there.

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You will see an adjustment, a capital adjustment

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in the fire improvement fund

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for the purchase of the fire engine.

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I'm just gonna read this directly from my memo.

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Increased use of fund balance

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due to the receipt of the fire engine.

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The fire engine was ordered at the same time

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as an aerial truck, but it took longer to arrive.

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The recording of the engine to the vehicle line item

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occurred when the engine was received earlier this year.

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the amount was not budgeted.

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That's my error.

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It took a couple of years for it to get here.

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So by the time we went, when we purchased it in 22 to 24,

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it was a use of fund balance.

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That money is there, that money was there.

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The engine is paid for.

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Slight changes by police and fire pension,

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which were approved by those boards.

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Also foreign fire, landfill closure.

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we had a decrease and increase corresponding in that fund.

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So it washes out water, sewer and storm.

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We did have, I did decrease the line item for the IEPA

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and the capital outlay expenses.

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Those, the budget that was in there,

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it's really a capital expense and you'll,

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you won't see items for capital

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cause they will be capitalized come in.

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that's just a method we're trying to tell you

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of how much money we're using for capital expenses.

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And I think that's all the comments that I had on there

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but I'd be ready to take any questions anyone might have.

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Any questions?

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Great job.

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Seeing none, Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

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Sanders?

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Yes.

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Sellers?

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Aye.

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Klemm?

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Aye.

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Monroe?

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Aye.

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Simmons?

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Stacy and Shadle. The ordinance passes eight to zero. Item number seven is the first reading of

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ordinance 2024-86. Could you please read this? Ordinance amending airplane hanger fees at

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Freeport-Albertus Airport and adopting revised hanger lease form. Manager Boyer. Thank you your

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honor. We've discussed the hanger lease rates and that they are controlled by ordinance approved

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and

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the City Council. Staff was tasked with looking at the rates and coming back with suggestions or

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recommendations on what we could do to make sure that those hangar rates are in alignment with the

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regular, with other airports in our area of a similar size and air traffic. One change has come,

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Most of the, almost all of the hangar lease rates are in line with other airports. However, staff is recommending making an official J-hanger lease rate from $575 to $800. This is kind of a legacy of the situation.

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This is kind of a legacy of the situation with the previous leasee, and we'd like to make that change permanent in ordinance, so.

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Staff request, making the lease rate for J. Hanger $800 per month.

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So moved.

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Second.

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So we have a motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Klemm to move Ordinance 2024-86 onto the next regularly scheduled meeting discussion.

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I believe there's a note to suspend the rules.

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I think we have a discussion first and then we'll come back to that. Alderman, Stacy?

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I did not understand what you said, City Manager Boyer, EC, when you said something about the 800 and EC?

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Actually, no, I didn't see anything EC. What I said was we previously had a lease rent of $575 when Jack Hooker owned it and it is currently at a $800 per month rate and we want to make that official in the ordinance.

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So we just want to make the change in the ordinance to make J.Hanger $800 per month.

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Which is what they're paying right now.

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Which is currently what they're being paid, yes.

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Alderman Sanders? We had a lease that was calculated at $575, you say? Yes, originally when Jack

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Hooker had it, it was $575. When was that time period? I think it was 2020. Jack passed

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away, he had it subleased to someone else. That's the rate that they were paying? Yes.

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and then our airport manager was able to get them moved out and I believe the first person

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to rent that was Heritage and they rented it for $800 a month and it's currently leased

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for $800 a month. We just want to make that official in the ordinance.

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That's who's leasing it now?

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No. I don't recall the name of the current leasy, but they are leasing it for $800.

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The lease is still open. We haven't finalized that lease yet. We haven't signed off on it yet.

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Yes, it came before council. It was approved by council.

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Was it?

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Yeah.

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If there's no further discussion, Alderman Klemm, you had...

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Yes, motion to suspend the rules.

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Second.

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We have a motion made by Alderman Klemm, seconded by Alderman Parker for suspension of the rules only.

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Suspension is non-debatable and was passed by two-thirds majority. Madam Clerk, would you please take the role on the suspension only?

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Sanders? No. Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Monroe? No. Simmons? No. Parker? Aye. Stacy? No. And Shadle? Aye. We have a tie vote, four to four. Mayor? Aye.

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and the motion to suspend no no cuz you still need two-thirds oh two-thirds you

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know it does need two-thirds thank you attorney Zito so it fails four to four

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okay well then it will be moved on as the original motion was so it'll be on the

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first meeting in January and the original motion was Clem Sellers do I

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have that correctly other way around thank you they will move on to item

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Fowler.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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I'm going to start here by saying that staff received a Permanent Application at 66 North

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Stewart Avenue, submitted by Howard and Lori Broughton to seek relief from Section 1268.07E

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to allow for a side yard of less than 15 feet.

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Director Duckman.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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I'm going to start here by saying that staff received a permit application to build a garage at 66 North Stewart on October 22nd.

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After discussions with the property owner, and right now it's being pulled up on the screen here,

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it was discussed that the required setback would be 15 feet, and after multiple discussions with the property owner,

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They had stated that for various reasons, they would like it to be 10 feet, and it was explained to them that that would require variation, and with that being said, staff had a hearing for this matter on December 5th with its owning Board of Appeals, and it was recommended for approval with a vote of 5 to 0 with zero abstentions, and on December 12th, the Planning Commission also recommended approval with a vote of 5 to 0 with zero abstentions.

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and in line with this staff is also going to recommend approval. Staff is recommending

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approval but I just wanted to show you here what it looks like.

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Kind of see here this is what's like but the technical term is a reverse corner but really

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what it is the front of their house is here along Stewart and so their side yard is actually in line

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with the front of the people on Heard Street. I have some pictures I'm going to show as well

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Well to kind of give you an idea for any of the council members who have not been on site

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to visit it.

00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:11.020
But what you can see here on this street here, there's a privacy fence that runs along pretty

00:45:11.020 --> 00:45:13.660
much the whole way up until the front of the house.

00:45:13.660 --> 00:45:17.700
And there are mature trees, as the property owner stated.

00:45:17.700 --> 00:45:22.539
And they're actually going to be 60 feet from their back property line, which is this person's

00:45:22.539 --> 00:45:25.860
side yard, which is this is treed in here.

00:45:25.860 --> 00:45:30.940
and they're going to be well inside of a privacy fence in here as well.

00:45:30.940 --> 00:45:36.620
So this is a situation where staff is recommending approval as it has minimal, it's going to

00:45:36.620 --> 00:45:39.380
have a very minimal effect on the adjoining neighbors.

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So if we scroll down, I have some pictures we could show too.

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So staff, one last thing I did want to say is that in speaking with the property owner,

00:45:50.820 --> 00:45:53.940
we're requesting a suspension of the rule so they can get started on construction right

00:45:53.940 --> 00:46:15.860
away that's this is the side yard that we're talking about and there's the

00:46:15.860 --> 00:46:19.019
privacy fence that I was speaking of and there's some of the mature trees are

00:46:19.020 --> 00:46:24.020
We're over here, and here as well, and then this is the road here.

00:46:28.020 --> 00:46:32.020
What's the name of, is that a road you say?

00:46:32.020 --> 00:46:34.020
Yep, the road's right here.

00:46:34.020 --> 00:46:36.020
Is that an alley or a street?

00:46:36.020 --> 00:46:39.020
No, that's an actual, it's the name of the street there is Heard Street.

00:46:39.020 --> 00:46:40.020
Okay.

00:46:40.020 --> 00:46:41.020
It's what?

00:46:41.020 --> 00:46:42.020
H-U-R-D.

00:46:42.020 --> 00:46:43.020
Heard.

00:46:43.020 --> 00:46:44.020
Heard.

00:46:44.020 --> 00:46:46.020
Yeah, heard of it.

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This is almost 3 quarters of an acre, so staff is recommending approval as well as a suspension

00:46:56.500 --> 00:46:57.500
of the rules.

00:46:57.500 --> 00:47:00.539
How tall is it going to be when they replace it?

00:47:00.539 --> 00:47:02.980
It's a single story garage.

00:47:02.980 --> 00:47:03.980
Okay.

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Are they replacing the fence?

00:47:06.780 --> 00:47:10.900
No, not as part of this, that's not part of this variation.

00:47:10.900 --> 00:47:11.900
Okay.

00:47:11.900 --> 00:47:12.900
They might replace it.

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Are you done with your presentation?

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Yes, if there's any, unless there's any, yes, unless there's any questions.

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Any questions? Alderman Parker?

00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:33.900
I went and took a look at this, and it's going to be a huge improvement, and I do believe the fence is coming down, and it is a huge improvement to the neighborhood, to neighbors.

00:47:33.900 --> 00:47:37.900
It will really increase their property value. I think it's a great idea.

00:47:37.900 --> 00:47:38.900
Right.

00:47:38.900 --> 00:47:39.900
Alderman Monroe?

00:47:39.900 --> 00:47:53.900
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Director Duckman, thank you for adding all of the notes and pictures and everything. That's very helpful and that's very much needed on all of these types. It's an awesome job. Thank you.

00:47:53.900 --> 00:47:54.900
Darren?

00:47:54.900 --> 00:48:08.900
On the Planning Commission approval of this, the homeowner testified that one of the reasons that they wanted to move the garage was to save some of these mature trees on their property.

00:48:08.900 --> 00:48:23.300
To my surprise, I received a phone call on this matter, and that was a good thing.

00:48:23.300 --> 00:48:36.340
Director Duckman, to my knowledge and understanding, there's going to be a driveway that they will

00:48:36.340 --> 00:48:38.340
and

00:48:39.579 --> 00:48:40.980
the

00:48:40.980 --> 00:48:42.980
City Council.

00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:49.320
I'm not aware of that driveway at this time. When they came to me, the

00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:53.320
discussion was a building permit for a garage. So when we went through that

00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.320
process, that's what we did. I processed what was brought to me. Could they

00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:01.320
build a driveway there and get a permit for it? Yes, they can. But I had

00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:05.320
multiple times to come back and ask them, I don't know if they can do

00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:12.320
But I had multiple discussions with the property owner and that thing we went back and forth was where he was going to put the actual

00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:21.320
where they wanted to put the garage. We didn't have discussions on the driveway and also, to be fair, it would have been a separate ordinance.

00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:29.320
Anyways, if there was some sort of variation for this driveway, I would have had a separate variation for the driveway requirements.

00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:34.680
I understand and I only say that because we're asking for the rules to be suspended so they

00:49:34.680 --> 00:49:39.160
can get moving and yay let's do it so I just

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Stewart. So I just, that's why I inquired. Yep. Understood. Okay. Okay. I kind of got a little out of order on this. I didn't get a motion to move it forward. Is there such a motion? So move. Second. We have a motion made by Alderman Seller, seconded by Alderman Shadle. And again, further discussion. If not, I'll entertain a motion to suspend. Suspension by Alderman Parker and the second by Alderman

00:50:09.160 --> 00:50:16.520
Alderman, Klemm. Again, the suspension of the rules is non-debatable and must pass by two-thirds. Madam Clerk, would you please take the vote?

00:50:16.520 --> 00:50:32.520
Sanders. Aye. Sellers. Aye. Klemm. Aye. Monroe. Aye. Simmons. Aye. Parker. Aye. Stacy. Aye. And Shadle. Aye. The motion passes 8-0 on suspension only.

00:50:32.520 --> 00:50:39.080
So now before you is considered to be the second reading to for the final passage on this ordinance. Is there any further discussion?

00:50:40.600 --> 00:50:42.860
Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Sanders?

00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.400
Here.

00:50:48.040 --> 00:50:52.500
Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Monroe? Aye. Simmons? Aye.

00:50:53.840 --> 00:51:01.120
Parker? Aye. Stacy? Aye. And Shadle? Aye. And the ordinance passes 8 to 0. May we have the lights?

00:51:02.520 --> 00:51:07.620
and then we'll move on to item number nine which is the adoption of resolution

00:51:07.620 --> 00:51:15.840
2024 130 could you please read this resolution approving the city's general

00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.980
liability property and workers compensation insurance policies thank you

00:51:19.980 --> 00:51:26.000
manager where thank your honor Gallagher is our insurance broker and Gallagher has

00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:31.080
presented renewal terms for the city of Freeport's insurance policy for 24 25

00:51:31.080 --> 00:51:38.080
Despite the difficult market conditions, terms are favorable, reflecting stable trends in the public sector insurance market.

00:51:38.080 --> 00:51:47.080
Key cost drivers include, and this is a larger, larger vicinity, our nation as a whole and all the people involved,

00:51:47.080 --> 00:51:52.080
large destructive weather events, increasing medical expenses and increased litigation.

00:51:52.080 --> 00:51:56.080
Total premiums for this year increased by 13%.

00:51:56.080 --> 00:51:57.080
and others.

00:51:57.080 --> 00:52:02.840
This was largely due to a rise in workman's comp insurance or workman's comp cases excluding

00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:09.560
this on other end of it is the rest of the line items came in at about 5% over last year

00:52:09.560 --> 00:52:11.080
in aligning with market trends.

00:52:11.080 --> 00:52:21.120
So the total financial impact, the total cost of this insurance program is $1,139,762 and

00:52:21.120 --> 00:52:29.680
is an increase of $132,716 over last year. Staff recommends approval of the renewal terms

00:52:29.680 --> 00:52:38.680
to maintain this coverage. And so with that, staff requests you to move forward with this

00:52:38.680 --> 00:52:39.680
resolution.

00:52:39.680 --> 00:52:41.680
Is there a motion to adopt?

00:52:41.680 --> 00:52:42.680
So moved.

00:52:42.680 --> 00:52:43.680
Second.

00:52:43.680 --> 00:52:49.640
A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Discussion?

00:52:49.640 --> 00:52:57.080
Alderman, Monroe, Madam Mayor this is a question for for staff did did the health

00:52:57.080 --> 00:53:01.360
insurance company actually use the information that destructive weather was

00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:09.960
the one of the primary drivers for the increase in health insurance rates? Thank

00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:13.800
your honor essentially they were just saying the general insurance conditions

00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:24.240
In general, insurance conditions have been impacted by that.

00:53:24.240 --> 00:53:26.640
This is not health insurance, by the way.

00:53:26.640 --> 00:53:32.040
This is Illinois Public Risk Fund, that's Workman's Comp, and also general liability,

00:53:32.040 --> 00:53:37.320
so auto employment, cyber security, et cetera.

00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:45.320
There's no further discussion. Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:48.320
Sanders is absent. Sellers? Aye.

00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:51.320
Klemm? Aye. Monroe? Nope.

00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:53.320
Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye.

00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.320
Stacy? No.

00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:58.320
And Shadle? Aye.

00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:06.320
The resolution is adopted 5-2.

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Item number 10 is the Adoption of Resolution 2024-131.

00:54:09.640 --> 00:54:10.800
Could you please read this?

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Resolution approving a grant agreement

00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:16.760
between the Illinois Law Enforcement Alarm System,

00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.920
also known as ALIAS, and the city regarding

00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:24.280
less lethal alternatives for law enforcement,

00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:27.360
less lethal device grant.

00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:28.440
Easy for you to say.

00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:29.520
Thank you.

00:54:29.520 --> 00:54:30.440
Chief Shenberger.

00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:31.480
Thank you.

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In the summer of 2024, staff applied

00:54:33.560 --> 00:54:36.400
for the fiscal year 2025,

00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.600
Less Lethal Alternatives for Law Enforcement Grant

00:54:38.600 --> 00:54:40.440
offered by the State of Illinois.

00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:42.760
The grant would allow departments throughout the state

00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.000
to upgrade their conducted energy device programs

00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:49.200
with TASER 7 or TASER 10 devices.

00:54:49.200 --> 00:54:51.260
The Freeport Police Department requires officers

00:54:51.260 --> 00:54:56.260
to carry a CED as a less lethal use of force option.

00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:58.800
The current devices used by the Freeport Police Department

00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:03.400
are the Axon X26P, which came out in 2013,

00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:07.140
and the Axon X2, which came out in 2011.

00:55:07.140 --> 00:55:09.980
Both devices have been in service for more than 10 years.

00:55:09.980 --> 00:55:12.600
Axon has indicated the company will be discontinuing

00:55:12.600 --> 00:55:15.020
the use of both models in the near future,

00:55:15.020 --> 00:55:16.760
thus requiring agencies to upgrade

00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:19.800
to the TASER 7 or TASER 10.

00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:22.840
When planning for the initial rollout of the grant,

00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:24.760
staff was aware that TASER 10 required

00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.320
a four-year certification plan with Axon

00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:29.600
that included additional costs

00:55:29.600 --> 00:55:32.080
to cover the certification of TASER 10,

00:55:32.080 --> 00:55:34.640
as well as training for Freeport Police Department

00:55:34.640 --> 00:55:38.640
TASER and structures and the certification of the devices.

00:55:38.640 --> 00:55:41.320
Staff spoke to the ILEAS representative

00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:43.080
for the Freeport Police Department

00:55:43.080 --> 00:55:45.240
and was told at that time that the grant would cover

00:55:45.240 --> 00:55:47.700
all the costs associated with the devices

00:55:47.700 --> 00:55:51.220
and suggested applying for the TASER 10 grant.

00:55:51.220 --> 00:55:53.800
On October 1st, 2024, the Freeport Police Department

00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:56.880
was awarded five TASER 10 bundles

00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:59.280
and the resolution was presented to this council

00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:03.960
and passed on October 7th, 2024 to accept that grant.

00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.520
There were 404 departments who applied for this grant

00:56:06.520 --> 00:56:09.880
throughout the state of Illinois at that time.

00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.080
When staff made arrangements to order

00:56:12.080 --> 00:56:14.920
the five Taser 10 bundles from Maxon,

00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.820
staff was made aware the amount of the grant

00:56:16.820 --> 00:56:18.760
only covered the cost of the bundles

00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:21.040
and not the certification agreement.

00:56:21.040 --> 00:56:26.040
The cost of this agreement would have been $4,208.90

00:56:26.040 --> 00:56:27.720
for four years.

00:56:27.720 --> 00:56:32.160
Staff spoke to the Alias representative and advised the amount of money initially allocated

00:56:32.160 --> 00:56:38.400
towards the entire grant was significantly cut by about $16 million.

00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:42.400
After staff and other agencies across the state of Illinois submitted their grant application.

00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.960
Therefore, the funding needed to cover the certification agreement will fall back on

00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.100
the awarded agency.

00:56:49.100 --> 00:56:53.920
This issue in funding affected other agencies and not just the Freeport Police Department.

00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:59.400
F. has since reached out to Aileus and Axon and was able to switch from the TASER 10 award

00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:01.560
to the TASER 7 award.

00:57:01.560 --> 00:57:05.760
The TASER 7 award would include five TASER 7 bundles.

00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:11.260
The TASER 7 option is cheaper and there would be no four-year certification agreement.

00:57:11.260 --> 00:57:15.600
This award will significantly upgrade the Freeport Police Department's CED program and

00:57:15.600 --> 00:57:20.800
offset future costs of upgrading the program.

00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:25.480
United States Department of Justice in conjunction with the Police Executive Research Forum found

00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:30.160
that CEDs, when used appropriately, with a full understanding of their risks, are a useful

00:57:30.160 --> 00:57:38.040
tool that can effectively help to resolve serious situations. CEDs can reduce the need

00:57:38.040 --> 00:57:43.600
for other force options and can enable officers to subdue actively resisting or aggressive

00:57:43.600 --> 00:57:48.800
subjects while lowering the rates of injury to law enforcement officers and subjects.

00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:54.800
The Freeport Police Department has the most current acceptable lexipole policy outlining the use of CEDs.

00:57:54.800 --> 00:58:08.800
The PD also has two certified CED instructors on staff and require annual recertification that involves scenario-based training curriculum that is certified by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board.

00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:16.800
On November 27, 2024, staff was informed that the Freeport Police Department could switch the grand award to five TASER 7 bundles.

00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:26.800
Elias would reimburse the police department $12,717 towards a purchase of the five Taser 7 bundles.

00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:33.800
The police department would still have to contribute $1,248 towards a purchase of the five Taser 7 bundles

00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:40.800
because the price negotiated by Elias did not include other costs, including warranty coverage.

00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:46.880
Tonight, I'm just asking if we could rescind the resolution passed on October 7th, 2024

00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:54.460
for the five Taser 10 bundles, and then as I explained before, the cost of this whole

00:58:54.460 --> 00:59:03.680
thing would be a reimbursement of $12,717 by Elias, and then we would just contribute

00:59:03.680 --> 00:59:08.680
the remaining $1,248 from our 2025 Police Department budget,

00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:14.920
line item 101, 151, 6-2-10.

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Is there a motion to adopt?

00:59:20.560 --> 00:59:21.520
Second.

00:59:21.520 --> 00:59:23.040
A motion made by Alderman Klemm,

00:59:23.040 --> 00:59:25.200
seconded by Alderman Sellers, discussion?

00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:28.120
I just have one question.

00:59:28.120 --> 00:59:28.960
Alderman Stacey.

00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:36.960
How many times in this 2024 year have we had to even use tasers?

00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:52.960
I don't have those numbers with me. I don't want to guess. But it's something that we're

00:59:52.960 --> 01:00:02.440
required to carry. Our insurance company asks that we carry them. By not having them we risk

01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:16.920
and others. Any further discussion? Alderman, Monroe? Thanks, Chief. Thank you for the update.

01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:23.840
Have we looked at any other companies that manufacture similar devices, or is Axon the

01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:30.980
only one we've kind of approached? Axon, they have the market cornered, but this particular

01:00:30.980 --> 01:00:31.980
and Shadle.

01:00:31.980 --> 01:00:37.540
The rest of the grant is giving us funding to purchase devices specifically from Axon.

01:00:37.540 --> 01:00:39.780
Anything else?

01:00:39.780 --> 01:00:47.900
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:00:47.900 --> 01:00:48.900
Sanders?

01:00:48.900 --> 01:00:49.900
Aye.

01:00:49.900 --> 01:00:50.900
Sellers?

01:00:50.900 --> 01:00:51.900
Aye.

01:00:51.900 --> 01:00:52.900
Klemm?

01:00:52.900 --> 01:00:53.900
Aye.

01:00:53.900 --> 01:00:54.900
Monroe?

01:00:54.900 --> 01:00:55.900
Abstain.

01:00:55.900 --> 01:00:56.900
Simmons?

01:00:56.900 --> 01:00:57.900
Aye.

01:00:57.900 --> 01:00:58.900
Parker?

01:00:58.900 --> 01:00:59.900
Aye.

01:00:59.900 --> 01:01:00.900
Stacy?

01:01:00.900 --> 01:01:06.540
The resolution is adapted 7-0 with one abstentia.

01:01:06.540 --> 01:01:09.820
Item number 11 is the adoption of resolution 2024-132.

01:01:09.820 --> 01:01:11.660
Could you please read this?

01:01:11.660 --> 01:01:17.580
Resolution approving the payment of an invoice from Timber Industries for leaf disposal services.

01:01:17.580 --> 01:01:18.580
Manager Boyer.

01:01:18.580 --> 01:01:19.580
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:01:19.580 --> 01:01:24.380
The City of Freeport uses Timber Industries to maintain and run the wood lot across from

01:01:24.380 --> 01:01:26.380
the fairgrounds on Walnut Road.

01:01:26.380 --> 01:01:31.100
The City had three years of accumulated leaf recycling waste that needed to be barrel ground

01:01:31.100 --> 01:01:36.220
and hauled away to an EPA approved area for land recycling.

01:01:36.220 --> 01:01:40.500
Timber Industries provided equipment, grinding, semi-trucks, and farmland plowing coordination

01:01:40.500 --> 01:01:47.060
for 140 semi-loads of leaf waste for disposal and legal recycling reclamation as our contract

01:01:47.060 --> 01:01:48.060
site manager.

01:01:48.060 --> 01:01:54.600
IEPA requested the stored leaves waste be removed and disposed of on the landfill physical

01:01:54.600 --> 01:02:01.720
Audit in 2024 due to heat generation and breakdown. The waste removal was completed in early November

01:02:01.720 --> 01:02:09.600
to make room for the 2024 pickup and city requests, or I'm sorry, staff requests approval

01:02:09.600 --> 01:02:17.380
of $27,096.71 to Timber Industries for the trucking and disposal fees.

01:02:17.380 --> 01:02:18.880
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:19.880
So moved.

01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:20.880
Second.

01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:26.000
second the motion made by Alderman Shadle seconded by Alderman Klemm

01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:31.640
discussion Alderman Monroe thank you madam mayor city manager does this mean

01:02:31.640 --> 01:02:38.920
that we'll be able to return to dropping off debris at that site and if if so what

01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:43.560
what things we put in place to kind of protect us from the issues that popped

01:02:43.560 --> 01:02:45.560
and a few others are wrapped up this year.

01:02:45.560 --> 01:02:46.560
Manager Boyer?

01:02:46.560 --> 01:02:47.560
Sure.

01:02:47.560 --> 01:02:50.040
The answer to that is yes.

01:02:50.040 --> 01:02:56.520
Once we are able to take care of timber industries, we had a few things in the contract that we

01:02:56.520 --> 01:02:57.520
need to correct.

01:02:57.520 --> 01:03:00.280
We need to clarify some things in the contract for the future.

01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:05.560
Also, we are pursuing a composting permit for the Illinois EPA that's going to allow us

01:03:05.560 --> 01:03:12.040
to use leaves and other yard waste and grass clippings to turn it into topsoil.

01:03:12.040 --> 01:03:16.360
that will take a couple of years for that to generate, but once it's going, we should

01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:23.240
have topsoil and potting soil for not only site reclamation and other projects that we

01:03:23.240 --> 01:03:28.560
do, but we can also have it available to residents similar to what we have in terms of mulch.

01:03:28.560 --> 01:03:31.080
So did that answer your question?

01:03:31.080 --> 01:03:32.080
Yes, thank you.

01:03:32.080 --> 01:03:33.080
Alderman Sanders?

01:03:33.080 --> 01:03:34.080
Yeah.

01:03:34.080 --> 01:03:40.680
Where is this desert-needed area for dropping off?

01:03:40.680 --> 01:03:51.500
It is at the Woodlot on Walnut Road directly across from the East Gate at the Fairgrounds.

01:03:51.500 --> 01:03:52.500
Any other discussion?

01:03:52.500 --> 01:03:53.500
Alderman Stacy?

01:03:53.500 --> 01:04:06.760
So this amount is covering three years of where they have been picking up the leaves?

01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:09.320
Mayor and Chair Boyer?

01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:15.580
This is a portion, they bore the vast majority of the cost, but they requested a cost share

01:04:15.580 --> 01:04:19.220
on this to make sure that we get it taken care of.

01:04:19.220 --> 01:04:23.640
They had a substantial amount of cost involved in hauling it away.

01:04:23.640 --> 01:04:29.000
It was something that where the inspection from the EPA came, we needed to get it resolved

01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.640
rapidly so that we would be in compliance.

01:04:31.640 --> 01:04:37.160
So the EPA had an issue with it, we had to get it resolved.

01:04:37.160 --> 01:04:41.160
Is there anyone else before Alderman Sanders gets his second?

01:04:41.160 --> 01:04:42.160
Alderman Sanders?

01:04:42.160 --> 01:04:45.160
Yeah.

01:04:45.160 --> 01:04:53.160
Could the Council look at the breakdown of this invoice to determine if there's any irregularities

01:04:53.160 --> 01:04:57.160
where we can determine how this money was spent?

01:04:57.160 --> 01:05:05.160
I don't know if it showed up in the budget, but before we pay it,

01:05:05.160 --> 01:05:34.640
It appears as if we had no idea it was going to cost that much to do this, so now we're

01:05:34.640 --> 01:05:45.000
We are pursuing a permit with the EPA so we can turn those leaves into potting soil, but

01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:47.520
we need a different permit to get that done.

01:05:47.520 --> 01:05:52.440
And if that is not possible, then what are we going to do?

01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:57.080
I think our backup strategy is going to be to land apply them at the airport and on the

01:05:57.080 --> 01:06:02.720
city owned farm fields there, but I think it would benefit the city more to have access

01:06:02.720 --> 01:06:08.200
S. to essentially topsoil for site remediation for construction projects.

01:06:08.200 --> 01:06:09.200
Thank you.

01:06:09.200 --> 01:06:11.280
There's no further discussion?

01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:14.960
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:15.960
Sanders?

01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:16.960
Aye.

01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:17.960
Sellers?

01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:18.960
Aye.

01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:19.960
Klemm?

01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:20.960
Aye.

01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:21.960
Monroe?

01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:22.960
Aye.

01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:23.960
Simmons?

01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:24.960
Aye.

01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:25.960
Parker?

01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:26.960
Aye.

01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:27.960
Stacy?

01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:28.960
Aye.

01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:29.960
Shadle?

01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:30.960
Aye.

01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:31.960
The resolution is adopted 8-0.

01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:39.060
Resolution Approving Engineering Agreement with Fehr Graham for 2025 Freeport Landfill

01:06:39.060 --> 01:06:44.900
Engineering and Annual Services for Landfills 2 and 3 and 4.

01:06:44.900 --> 01:06:45.900
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:06:45.900 --> 01:06:50.000
The City of Freeport has annual engineering requirements for the City-owned Landfill 2,

01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:55.040
3, and 4 as part of the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency closure process.

01:06:55.040 --> 01:07:00.720
This contract is required by the EPA for mandatory routine samples, lab analysis, reporting and

01:07:00.720 --> 01:07:06.000
Uppkeep of the landfill. The City of Freeport approves a required landfill engineering contract

01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:11.920
for the annual needs of the three city-owned landfill sites. Fehr Graham is a licensed

01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:16.640
Freeport landfill engineer, and their environmental team specializes in landfill monitoring and

01:07:16.640 --> 01:07:23.440
closures. This contract requires significant landfill sampling, lab analysis, leachate system

01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:30.240
upkeep, and reporting, which is an Illinois licensed engineer requirement. This 2025 contract

01:07:30.240 --> 01:08:00.240
and the cost of professionally certified lab testing. Sampling and analysis for this contract is over 50% of the total cost of the scope of work. Please note, an alternative identified in this contract is the 2025 IEPA requirement for perfluorinated compound testing and pre-treatment planning. And just a side note there, the EPA is requiring, as we maybe have discussed in the last couple of days,

01:08:00.240 --> 01:08:15.040
We just discussed the perfluorinated compound issue with the Brick Street water plant that is being expanded to wastewater discharge and also landfill leachate. So this is becoming more and more complex as the years go on.

01:08:15.040 --> 01:08:28.440
IEPA is mandating the landfill PFAS testing and preliminary treatment analysis as part of the permit modifications and this identified fee will only be used for testing if it is mandated in 25.

01:08:28.440 --> 01:08:35.400
so funding for this is budgeted in the 2025 budget of two hundred one thousand dollars and staff's

01:08:35.400 --> 01:08:39.640
recommendation that city council approve the landfill engineering contract with fair gram

01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:49.400
there's a typo in the memo the contract is actually three hundred and four thousand two fifty two

01:08:49.400 --> 01:08:54.920
hundred one thousand is just landfill two and three did not i got landfill four so that's my error

01:08:54.920 --> 01:09:07.920
Thank you. Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle,

01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:15.920
seconded by Alderman Klemm. Discussion on the resolution? Alderman Sanders? Manager, Boyer,

01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:29.920
We're having an engineer to be contracted to do this study, because that's all it is, is a study, am I correct?

01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:30.920
No.

01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:33.920
Okay, so are they involved in the testing and sampling?

01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:34.920
Yes.

01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:36.920
Because I was going to ask you another question.

01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:40.920
Because I was going to ask you another question, if I can continue.

01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:43.920
Who's doing the work right now?

01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:45.920
Fehr Graham's been doing it for a number of years.

01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:55.920
Okay, so when was that part of the city's obligations before Fehr and Graham did this kind of work?

01:09:55.920 --> 01:10:02.920
Who was doing it before Fehr and Graham started doing this kind of study of analysis and things of this nature?

01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:05.079
and how is it that we got rid of that?

01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:09.520
Because I thought it was only personnels of the city,

01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:14.520
of the city employees that did the sample and analysis.

01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:20.560
How did that get taken away and why was it taken away?

01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:21.880
I don't believe that's correct.

01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:24.659
I don't believe the city's ever done any of the analysis

01:10:24.659 --> 01:10:27.920
on landfill leachate or any of the compliance monitoring,

01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.199
but I'd have to defer to Darren on that.

01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:31.800
That was before my time.

01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:37.079
Yeah, the city has not done that before. We've been the engineer ever since the landfill closed.

01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:50.199
We helped with the closure process. The city doesn't physically have the lab equipment or the technicians to do this type of sampling on wastewater type materials.

01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:51.159
Are you serious?

01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:58.920
Yeah, I'm absolutely serious. This all gets sent out to a third party lab. It's required to be done by a third party.

01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:01.640
No, we have been doing that for years.

01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:03.640
Water testing we do in-house.

01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:05.640
Waste the landfill.

01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:07.640
We have been doing, I did a study out there

01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:09.640
at the landfill so I know I was there.

01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:11.640
And we did sampling out there

01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:13.640
at the landfill.

01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:15.640
And we had our waste, we had

01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:17.640
our lab, our lab technicians

01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:19.640
do the analysis

01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:21.640
and the diagnostics for

01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:23.640
that particular kind of, I'm just

01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:25.640
wondering where did it go? I'm not

01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:27.640
questioning it now.

01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:29.640
It's been years ago. Things change.

01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:41.680
I'm pretty sure the testing that you're talking about Mr. Sanders is when the

01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:46.520
landfills were still active this is after the closure process the closure process

01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:52.880
has to be monitored they have to be done as EPA regulations for the closure

01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:57.359
process of the landfills it's all dictated in the landfill permits we

01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:27.359
I think I know the answer to what you're asking. We still monitor it internally from the industrial monitoring program. So we're just checking the leachate as it goes into the collection system for for our wastewater compliance. As far as monitoring the landfill itself, we've never actually done that. So we're just checking the leachate as it goes into the collection system.

01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:40.359
We've actually monitored all the monitoring wells and that kind of thing, but we have, we do have a sampling manhole there and we do routinely check the leachate for our industrial waste process.

01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:44.359
Anyone else?

01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.359
Alderman Monroe.

01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:47.359
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:56.039
So, one of the ways that we did a bit of research on this over the last few weeks because of

01:12:56.039 --> 01:12:59.840
the biosolids that we had discussed.

01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:13.800
If we're not allowed to have this leach out of our former landfill, we're spreading biosolids

01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:15.239
and we're doing other things.

01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:24.380
We've got a well that's got high levels of PFAS. We did. Did we not? That we shut down

01:13:24.380 --> 01:13:25.380
in recent years?

01:13:25.380 --> 01:13:28.380
Not since 2015.

01:13:28.380 --> 01:13:36.100
Okay. But if we're putting this back out in the environment in other ways, what are we

01:13:36.100 --> 01:13:44.859
We're doing to limit our risk in our community to both our water and what we're disposing

01:13:44.859 --> 01:13:52.180
of on fields and disposing of, you know, other ways to protect the citizens of Freeport.

01:13:52.180 --> 01:13:54.819
Manager Boyer?

01:13:54.819 --> 01:14:00.619
Just to, I think, what you're asking is how are we responsibly handling all these different

01:14:00.619 --> 01:14:01.619
environmental challenges?

01:14:01.619 --> 01:14:05.980
And the reality is the leachate is running through the waste treatment process that the

01:14:05.980 --> 01:14:06.980
and John.

01:14:06.980 --> 01:14:07.980
So, the Wastewater Treatment Plan.

01:14:07.980 --> 01:14:12.779
During that process, the whole point of that process is to basically clean the water.

01:14:12.779 --> 01:14:15.420
Obviously, we do have a byproduct from that.

01:14:15.420 --> 01:14:20.300
It is sludge and the sludge is land applied and the EPA not only permits that, they permit

01:14:20.300 --> 01:14:24.579
our discharge, they monitor our discharge, our people internally monitor everything that's

01:14:24.579 --> 01:14:26.859
going on within the plant at every step.

01:14:26.859 --> 01:14:31.260
As a matter of fact, they're monitoring everything coming into the Wastewater Plan from significant

01:14:31.260 --> 01:14:33.180
industrial users.

01:14:33.180 --> 01:14:38.680
So essentially the EPA gives us the guidelines, we follow the guidelines and that is why we

01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:39.680
are in compliance.

01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:44.500
Is there anyone else before Alderman Sanders has his second?

01:14:44.500 --> 01:14:45.500
Darren?

01:14:45.500 --> 01:14:48.600
I'd like to piggyback on City Manager Boyer.

01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:57.260
So just as a clarification to last week's discussion about the sludge byproduct, the

01:14:57.260 --> 01:15:02.140
byproduct that's hauled off to fields is not for human consumption, it only goes to animal

01:15:32.140 --> 01:15:51.180
Alderman, Stacy, yes for her first.

01:15:51.180 --> 01:16:00.060
I voted against that because I didn't have that understanding that it was for fields and

01:16:00.060 --> 01:16:10.859
Grange for Animals, and if that would have been stated, that's information that's withheld

01:16:10.859 --> 01:16:15.980
that causes one to vote against something.

01:16:15.980 --> 01:16:19.260
Alderman Sanders?

01:16:19.260 --> 01:16:20.739
Yeah.

01:16:20.739 --> 01:16:29.980
If my understanding is right, there's third parties involved in the sample analysis.

01:16:29.980 --> 01:16:59.980
We have an environmental team that is licensed as landfill closure and they do all the sampling then it's sent to a third-party lab so it has an independent result that is independent of the city or the collector it's all done through a chain of custody which is required by EPA those sample results are then sent directly from those labs to Illinois

01:16:59.980 --> 01:17:29.980
and

01:17:29.980 --> 01:17:34.020
Biles around the landfill that have to be monitored.

01:17:34.020 --> 01:17:38.220
I believe it's quarterly for water samples to make sure the leachate is not leaching

01:17:38.220 --> 01:17:41.020
off of the landfill property, which it is not.

01:17:41.020 --> 01:17:43.539
That's what the collection system is for.

01:17:43.539 --> 01:17:49.100
Can we also see the studies that you guys have accumulated?

01:17:49.100 --> 01:17:51.800
There's not studies, technically.

01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:55.420
There's annual results and they're all public knowledge.

01:17:55.420 --> 01:17:56.420
Anybody can see that.

01:17:56.420 --> 01:17:57.420
Is it?

01:17:57.420 --> 01:17:58.420
Yep.

01:17:58.420 --> 01:17:59.420
Okay.

01:17:59.420 --> 01:18:03.420
If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:18:03.420 --> 01:18:04.420
Sanders?

01:18:04.420 --> 01:18:05.420
Uh, yeah.

01:18:05.420 --> 01:18:06.420
Sellers?

01:18:06.420 --> 01:18:07.420
Aye.

01:18:07.420 --> 01:18:08.420
Klemm?

01:18:08.420 --> 01:18:09.420
Aye.

01:18:09.420 --> 01:18:10.420
Monroe?

01:18:10.420 --> 01:18:11.420
Aye.

01:18:11.420 --> 01:18:12.420
Simmons?

01:18:12.420 --> 01:18:13.420
Aye.

01:18:13.420 --> 01:18:14.420
Parker?

01:18:14.420 --> 01:18:15.420
Aye.

01:18:15.420 --> 01:18:16.420
Stacy?

01:18:16.420 --> 01:18:17.420
Aye.

01:18:17.420 --> 01:18:18.420
Shadle?

01:18:18.420 --> 01:18:19.420
Aye.

01:18:19.420 --> 01:18:20.420
The resolution is adopted, 8-0.

01:18:20.420 --> 01:18:21.420
Item number 13 is the adoption of resolution 24134.

01:18:21.420 --> 01:18:23.180
Could you please read this?

01:18:23.180 --> 01:18:27.579
Resolution authorizing disposition of surplus city real property to the Northern Illinois

01:18:27.579 --> 01:18:33.300
Roy, Land Bank Authority. That property is 521 West Cottonwood Street. Thank you, Director

01:18:33.300 --> 01:18:40.659
Duckman. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Talked about this last week, so I'm going to put the slide

01:18:40.659 --> 01:18:45.180
presentation back up, so if there's any questions. I said our committee, the whole meeting, and

01:18:45.180 --> 01:18:53.800
essentially what's, what is going on here is that the city staff is recommending disposition

01:18:53.800 --> 01:19:00.840
of 521 West Cottonwood, which is a property that the city acquired in 2023 from the county

01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:09.000
via tax deed. And the city had intentions of demolishing this property. Periodically,

01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:14.319
at least once a month, I go over condemned properties, properties that are up for demolition

01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:18.079
with the Northern Illinois Land Bank. And this happened to be a property that they were

01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:22.359
were interested in, thought that they could move with a developer.

01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:31.640
So with that being said, staff is recommending disposition of 521 West Cottonwood to the

01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:33.840
Northern Illinois Land Bank.

01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:34.840
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:35.840
So moved.

01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:36.840
So moved.

01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:38.840
Miller, Mayor, Mayor, Mayor, Mayor, Mayor, Mayor

01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:50.840
We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Klemm. Discussion? Alderman Stacy?

01:19:50.840 --> 01:20:19.840
Yes. I like this idea. However, is there some rule or something that can be added to the ordinance that would say this could not become rental property?

01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:26.840
but it will become a home that can be sold.

01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:30.840
Sure. So this is not actually an ordinance.

01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:34.840
This is actually the city of Freeport

01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:38.840
disposing, disposition basically

01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:44.840
giving the property for a dollar to the Northern Illinois Land Bank so that they can essentially

01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:49.840
move it on to another, to a developer. So the short answer to your question is no.

01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:56.840
There is no ordinance to that effect. I do want to state that the City of Rockford has utilized this successfully.

01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:02.840
I think I stated here it's added $150,000 back into tax revenue by utilizing this program.

01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:07.840
And many of the properties that this has done on in Rockford are actually rental properties.

01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:14.840
So Rockford does this with the developers. Some of them use them for their own property in Rockford.

01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:21.920
Some of them actually use them for rentals and some of them are bought and then resold

01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:23.199
for a higher property value.

01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:30.480
So the land bank certainly asks when they go to developers, they ask what their intentions

01:21:30.480 --> 01:21:35.960
are, but they don't have a rule for holding them accountable for how they're going to

01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:38.119
actually do with the property.

01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:42.440
They only hold them accountable for bringing the property, you know, back up to code so

01:21:42.440 --> 01:21:51.159
with a time limit correct yes so the typical timeline that they hold is nine

01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:55.440
months so in nine months if they don't fix it the land bank takes ownership of

01:21:55.440 --> 01:21:59.440
the property back and then we'll put it back out again for disposition to another

01:21:59.440 --> 01:22:02.920
responsible contractor

01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:11.640
thank you madam mayor do we know if the Illinois Land Bank has had any or any of

01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:18.079
the City Administration staff have had any conversations with Barbara Bortner or Mr.

01:22:18.079 --> 01:22:19.079
Ryan Weckerly?

01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:20.079
No.

01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:25.800
Not that I'm aware of.

01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:26.800
I can speak to me personally.

01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:27.800
I have not.

01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:28.800
Okay.

01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:29.800
Thank you.

01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:34.800
Alderman Sanders.

01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:39.440
In this property or any property that the Land Bank is dealing with here in the City

01:22:39.440 --> 01:23:09.440
and Stacey, Stacey, Stacey, Stacey, Stacey, Stacey.

01:23:09.440 --> 01:23:11.440
President of the Dr. O.D.O.

01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:15.520
D.U.

01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:19.640
Mr. D.O.

01:23:20.900 --> 01:23:22.900
D.O.

01:23:24.020 --> 01:23:26.020
D.O.

01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:29.840
D.O.

01:23:34.260 --> 01:23:36.220
I want to make a point that I can't

01:23:36.220 --> 01:23:38.220
throw a question to the developers because

01:23:38.220 --> 01:23:47.220
The decision up here today is not whether the City of Freeport can limit a buyer to having a rental.

01:23:47.220 --> 01:23:54.220
What is up for decision is, does the City want to put this up for demolition and have another vacant lot?

01:23:54.220 --> 01:24:03.220
Or does it want to allow somebody who has experience, funding, to take this property and redevelop it?

01:24:03.220 --> 01:24:07.699
that's really what's up here today so the city is not going to have the ability to

01:24:07.699 --> 01:24:11.699
and I'll stand up and run through this

01:24:22.100 --> 01:24:29.500
okay so this is a property unfortunately we have many of these we know in in

01:24:29.500 --> 01:24:33.980
and Freeport. We took down, my department has taken down 50 of these and we're going

01:24:33.980 --> 01:24:40.239
to be working on 52 this year. These turn into vacant grass lots. So this property here,

01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:46.380
this company here in Rockford took this property and made it look like this. So really what's

01:24:46.380 --> 01:24:51.020
before you today and this is what they're renting. This person said after discussions

01:24:51.020 --> 01:24:56.100
with Leo Holmes, his name's Ivan, he's renting this to his brother. So essentially before

01:24:56.100 --> 01:25:02.100
Today is, does Freeport want this, or do they want another vacant lot?

01:25:02.100 --> 01:25:03.100
Yep.

01:25:03.100 --> 01:25:08.100
Actually, is there anybody for their first time?

01:25:08.100 --> 01:25:13.100
Other than Alderman Sanders, you can go ahead for your second.

01:25:13.100 --> 01:25:14.100
Oh, thank you.

01:25:14.100 --> 01:25:21.100
Who does the final inspections for these, these homes for fires infrastructure in?

01:25:21.100 --> 01:25:25.100
It's going to be our building inspector would do the final inspection.

01:25:25.100 --> 01:25:30.579
and what we're going to be doing is testing whether or not this home is

01:25:30.579 --> 01:25:35.900
stable all the way around foundation is stable to make sure that there's nothing

01:25:35.900 --> 01:25:41.420
impeding it or any future problems because I hate to see a property get

01:25:41.420 --> 01:25:45.980
that type of money and then the next couple of years if it looks like it's

01:25:45.980 --> 01:25:51.699
falling down yes that'll be inspected all our building inspector will inspect it

01:25:51.699 --> 01:25:53.699
Okay, okay, thank you.

01:25:54.180 --> 01:25:55.220
Deren?

01:25:55.220 --> 01:26:01.699
Wayne, didn't the land banks say that the contractors had nine months to turn these properties around?

01:26:01.699 --> 01:26:06.460
They get nine months to turn it around and then at that point they start a legal process.

01:26:07.060 --> 01:26:11.460
They have deed restrictions when they purchase them, then they would start a legal process to

01:26:12.060 --> 01:26:14.460
take ownership of the property back.

01:26:17.340 --> 01:26:18.980
Alderman Stacy?

01:26:18.980 --> 01:26:24.980
So the land, the land bank buys this home from Freeport?

01:26:24.980 --> 01:26:27.980
Disposed, we're giving it to them, yes.

01:26:27.980 --> 01:26:32.980
So Freeport will give them this home?

01:26:32.980 --> 01:26:33.980
Yes.

01:26:37.980 --> 01:26:43.980
Why is it given to the land bank? Why isn't it sold?

01:26:43.980 --> 01:26:50.220
Well, because right now we own it and we're going to spend roughly fifteen to

01:26:50.220 --> 01:26:55.180
twenty thousand dollars to demolish it and no longer receive any potential tax

01:26:55.180 --> 01:27:03.659
revenue or we can help the community and turn a blighted house into this and then

01:27:03.659 --> 01:27:10.300
receive future tax dollars moving forward. So the city selling it doesn't

01:27:10.300 --> 01:27:15.940
make sense and quite frankly the land bank's not interested in buying it for anything less they

01:27:15.940 --> 01:27:23.480
want they said we'll take the property but we paid what for the property we paid eight hundred and

01:27:23.480 --> 01:27:31.659
fifteen dollars from the tax assessor and so that's too much to expect from the land bank I think it

01:27:31.659 --> 01:28:01.659
Rees, yes, they essentially... If they say no, tear it down, then you're out of even more. Yes, so if we tear it down, we spent $815 to remediate blight by demolishing it, because it's owned by the City of Freeport. We bought it from, got it from a tax deed. So we're out roughly $15,000, $20,000 if right now, if we move forward with demolition, or we can let the land bank

01:28:01.659 --> 01:28:06.940
use its resources which it's done successfully and the city would not be

01:28:06.940 --> 01:28:12.279
we'd be out the $815 which we would recuperate when this was put back on the

01:28:12.279 --> 01:28:22.899
tax rolls. Okay there's no further discussion. Madam Clerk please take the

01:28:22.899 --> 01:28:29.260
roll. Sanders. Oh I'm sorry I didn't see your hand. So I really want to get behind

01:28:29.260 --> 01:28:35.119
Hines Program, but it sounds like, because it really sounds like it'll be helpful, but

01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:41.779
even with this first example, it seems another area in which we take out of these neighborhoods

01:28:41.779 --> 01:28:47.899
and give them to these people, these properties for literally nothing to developers who have

01:28:47.899 --> 01:28:55.899
the money to buy properties to invest in versus getting it to the people within that community

01:28:55.900 --> 01:29:01.140
who need a home not one to rent but one to make home because people put more

01:29:01.140 --> 01:29:06.280
value in their home than a rental property. I just feel like this will be an

01:29:06.280 --> 01:29:12.659
example of that. So an idea that's a good idea but the City Council would have to

01:29:12.659 --> 01:29:17.980
create an ordinance that would say we're going to evaluate people by some metric

01:29:17.980 --> 01:29:24.020
and then invest probably I think this is a contractor doing their own work said

01:29:24.020 --> 01:29:28.460
they're going to put $50,000 into this so it's a good idea but I think it's a good

01:29:28.460 --> 01:29:33.060
idea to maybe make an ordinance and look into our our tax funds and how we would

01:29:33.060 --> 01:29:40.420
pay to you know give somebody a house essentially you know but go ahead

01:29:40.420 --> 01:30:05.420
and

01:30:05.420 --> 01:30:12.460
that's, we're not holding up against that. The land bank's mission is to take properties that have not been in the tax rolls,

01:30:12.460 --> 01:30:19.100
prevent them from the demolition, and put them back into the hands of a developer willing to do so.

01:30:19.100 --> 01:30:25.500
The biggest advantage you're going to have with the land bank is, and I've dealt with this in this community for a long time,

01:30:25.500 --> 01:30:32.699
many people will buy these saying that they want to live in them, but they don't have the funds to actually develop these houses.

01:30:32.699 --> 01:30:40.699
you have to have experience and good funding in the bank in your own bank cash preferably because

01:30:40.699 --> 01:30:46.060
most banks aren't going to fund a mortgage for you to put into this house when you buy these when

01:30:46.060 --> 01:30:52.060
you're getting into these houses they take a massive amount of money experience to get them

01:30:52.619 --> 01:30:58.779
to look like this and quite frankly you're going to put people in a bad position if you say go

01:30:58.779 --> 01:31:03.180
Go ahead and get started on a remodel project when their first remodel project looks like

01:31:03.180 --> 01:31:04.180
this.

01:31:04.180 --> 01:31:05.180
This is dangerous.

01:31:05.180 --> 01:31:10.279
People will buy this, they'll see a low price tag, and then they'll think they can do it.

01:31:10.279 --> 01:31:14.960
And what they end up getting is a load of violations, and then they run out of money,

01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:19.480
they stop fixing it, and then it just turns into a vicious cycle, which is what you see

01:31:19.480 --> 01:31:21.140
happen oftentimes.

01:31:21.140 --> 01:31:26.899
What the land bank does is they evaluate who comes and looks at it, and they say, okay,

01:31:26.899 --> 01:31:31.340
If you want this property, you have nine months to make it look like this.

01:31:31.340 --> 01:31:34.340
And if you don't, we're going to take it back.

01:31:34.340 --> 01:31:40.560
So that's a real issue we have here is we don't, you really don't want to put somebody's

01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:46.140
first home, you don't want to give them this if they don't have experience or money to

01:31:46.140 --> 01:31:49.300
make it look like this.

01:31:49.300 --> 01:32:06.779
Actually, is there anyone else? Because these same houses are on the county tax bill. So

01:32:06.779 --> 01:32:11.460
if they wanted to do what you're saying they wanted to do, they could purchase it before

01:32:11.460 --> 01:32:17.060
the city got it. So they could do the same exact thing. They could pay the 800 and whatever

01:32:17.060 --> 01:32:37.659
and Wayne with regards to the actual land bank program right this particular they take applications

01:32:37.659 --> 01:32:42.940
right for who will serve as the developer so you could have a individual property owner

01:32:42.940 --> 01:32:48.239
Miller, let's say lives in the neighborhood or let's say someone who wants the house for

01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:53.319
themselves, they can apply to be the developer with the land bank and if they ultimately

01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:58.000
is, I don't know what their scoring system is, but ultimately if they show the wherewithal

01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:02.500
to be able to do it and the land bank says it makes sense we'll pick you over all the

01:33:02.500 --> 01:33:05.039
other people that apply then they could do it that way too.

01:33:05.039 --> 01:33:07.159
So there is that opportunity.

01:33:07.159 --> 01:33:26.159
Yep, it just is stated that, and actually this, the person purchasing this has stated, I mean, I've talked to them, they said that they'd like to rent it at first, but they also had stated that they are interested in living in it, so, what they end up doing with it, it's, you know, to be determined.

01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:33.159
and others. Alderman Monroe. Thank you Madam Mayor. So you said you spoke

01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:39.440
with the person, the person you spoke with, the owner, and because this is a limited liability

01:33:39.440 --> 01:33:46.300
corporation and when I'm looking them up there's multiple same names all across the country.

01:33:46.300 --> 01:33:52.720
So just trying to understand who are the people behind this, you know, trying to understand

01:33:52.720 --> 01:34:05.319
Do they have the our best interest as a community at heart? And, you know, you're saying they've got the capital, you know, just kind of give us more insight into who it is that we're talking to.

01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:21.279
Sure. So I met Ivan, I know his first name is Ivan. I apologize. I don't remember his last name. I met Ivan at this house. And I walked through this house in Rockford. And essentially saw the before pictures and saw what it looked like.

01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:25.279
Or there's also some broken windows in here and on the other side.

01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:27.279
Any basic, yeah, sorry.

01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:37.279
And so essentially representing that organization and work in, I had the land bank was there as well.

01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:42.279
So they could testify to, hey, this was who Ivan is with Leo Holmes LLC.

01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:46.279
And they said, you know, he had his nine months and he turned the project around into this.

01:34:46.279 --> 01:35:16.279
So the idea was for me as a member of staff to present to you saying I've personally witnessed and saw a property with Region 1 staff and Leo Holmes, Ivan, and showed that he can do it so that's one of the better ways I would state to look at somebody to say you know they could put on an application out of the Capitol but look they've done it here I've seen what they can do with a property is my best answer to

01:35:16.279 --> 01:35:46.279
Gtensey, very few people, I think, have ever met a person who's willing to do that, the best, to even make you feel better, this person potentially will be willing to do a nine month term to turn a house around that's really in bad shape, the house that, this 521 Cottonwood's in bad shape and he's willing to say, look, I could do this in nine months. So, I don't see an argument where you can say, you know, going, every house we demolish we have a vacant site.

01:35:46.279 --> 01:36:14.940
didn't Joel from R1 say that the Cottonwood Street they probably put some

01:36:14.940 --> 01:36:19.220
Feelers out on it and this gentleman was the only one that was interested at all.

01:36:19.220 --> 01:36:23.460
He's the only one that submitted the an application at their at the deadline

01:36:23.460 --> 01:36:30.380
which was November 15th. I'm sorry Alderman Stacey you Alderman Sanders and

01:36:30.380 --> 01:36:33.859
Alderman Monroe have also had their floor twice so it would have to be an

01:36:33.859 --> 01:36:41.899
approval. I thought I only said something once. Okay so if I wanted to make a

01:36:41.899 --> 01:37:11.899
I can't. You could ask for, you could ask for that if you'd like. She can if she wants to be able to ask if she can speak out of that ordinance. No, she's asking to make a motion. I said she can. I can make a motion. Okay, I make a motion that we move this to the first meeting in January and take the next couple of weeks and

01:37:11.899 --> 01:37:21.340
try to become even more educated on this process okay that that i was confused what you were asking

01:37:21.340 --> 01:37:26.539
attorney zito you've got she can she can always she can make a motion procedurally i mean that's not

01:37:26.539 --> 01:37:33.659
discussed there so there's a motion in a second to approve this this resolution so you want to

01:37:33.659 --> 01:37:39.020
not vote on it tonight you're basically making a motion to postpone this to the next city council

01:37:39.020 --> 01:37:44.619
Don, County Mayor, Chair, Council Meeting, yes, to allow for more time to look into this.

01:37:44.619 --> 01:37:49.619
Yes, okay. Yes. So that's what her motion. Just to lay this over for two weeks to the next City Council, or however many weeks it is to the next...

01:37:49.619 --> 01:38:02.420
the first meeting in January. Yeah. Yes. Okay, so we have a motion on the floor made by Alderman Stacy, seconded by Alderman Sanders to lay this over to the first meeting in January.

01:38:02.420 --> 01:38:10.420
Is there any discussion on that? Alderman Klemm? I just have a question, is there a time element on this property? That's what I was going to ask.

01:38:10.420 --> 01:38:21.420
Essentially, well I know that Leo Holmes LLC wants to get going right away and so I talked with Region 1 and they said the sooner the better.

01:38:21.420 --> 01:38:26.579
you know I told them I said I can't guarantee this is gonna go through the

01:38:26.579 --> 01:38:30.659
council and they said well you know we have an interested developer and

01:38:30.659 --> 01:38:34.659
hopefully it moves through quickly so so basically yeah that would be three weeks

01:38:34.659 --> 01:38:42.860
out Alderman Merrill so the question I have relating to this about pushing it

01:38:42.860 --> 01:38:49.300
out one number one is this hasn't come before council ever before and correct

01:38:49.300 --> 01:38:55.100
We did sorry we I brought this this was this presentations from a COW meeting last week, okay

01:38:55.100 --> 01:39:01.659
So we did yeah, so we I did and the reason I did it was the last the land bank has done these

01:39:02.220 --> 01:39:08.180
Projects in Freeport before and I've been working the past two years to get them back in here to do a project

01:39:09.779 --> 01:39:11.539
So

01:39:11.539 --> 01:39:14.340
But yeah, the question I've got is

01:39:14.979 --> 01:39:17.060
Last week was the first time it was brought up

01:39:17.060 --> 01:39:40.460
Where did the November 15th deadline come from? Sure. So let's go back to here. Let's go back to here to discuss the timeline. This was talked about at the COWL 521, West Cottonwood. If you go to the first bullet. City of Freeport initially preparing for demolition, but the House

01:39:40.460 --> 01:39:43.859
Anderson, but the house was salvageable.

01:39:43.859 --> 01:39:51.939
So I work with the land bank at least on a monthly basis, if not more.

01:39:51.939 --> 01:39:56.819
I was appointed as the board member for the city of Freeport, so I have to work with them

01:39:56.819 --> 01:40:00.480
about properties that could potentially be of interest to them.

01:40:00.480 --> 01:40:05.180
So that's how this bullet point one came up.

01:40:05.180 --> 01:40:10.340
So they tested the market's interest by taking open applications through the land bank portal.

01:40:10.340 --> 01:40:18.340
So that was through their own marketing. They have their own marketing portal. They have a list of developers. This is an established program, mostly in Rockford.

01:40:18.340 --> 01:40:28.340
So that's where this point here came up. And then we, I already kind of talked about this. I wanted a tight restriction on the buyer.

01:40:28.340 --> 01:40:38.340
And so they used a nine month deed restriction with a clawback option, which basically means if this isn't done in a timely manner, the land bank will legally work to take it back.

01:40:38.340 --> 01:40:44.220
Pack, and then there was an open house held on November 8th and kind of showing this is

01:40:44.220 --> 01:40:49.420
what was put on all of their, this is what was kind of talked about through the land

01:40:49.420 --> 01:40:57.500
banks advertising here, Friday the 8th, November 15th, and that was all part of this discussion

01:40:57.500 --> 01:41:03.579
here saying, hey, land bank Joel, who is here, he wanted to test the market to see if this

01:41:03.579 --> 01:41:04.579
and others.

01:41:04.579 --> 01:41:08.539
This could be something that would possibly drum up interest for their land bank.

01:41:08.539 --> 01:41:13.420
So that's how that part started.

01:41:13.420 --> 01:41:19.300
Ivan from Leo Holmes attended and expressed a strong interest in rehabbing the property.

01:41:19.300 --> 01:41:23.739
Leo Holmes submitted an application with a bid of $8,000.

01:41:23.739 --> 01:41:27.239
Freeport will click claim the property to Northern Illinois Land Bank who will sell

01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:31.239
it to the owner and Northern Illinois Land Bank will continually follow up the buyer

01:41:31.239 --> 01:41:34.239
and the Mayor to ensure the progress is being made.

01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:38.300
And that is what was explained at the Committee of the Whole meeting.

01:41:38.300 --> 01:41:42.199
And that's the same story that you're going to hear for the next three weeks if you guys

01:41:42.199 --> 01:41:43.199
put this off.

01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:45.600
You're going to hear the same story from me.

01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:46.600
Nothing changes.

01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:48.359
Nothing's going to change in three weeks.

01:41:48.359 --> 01:41:51.159
Alderman Shadle, you had your hand up.

01:41:51.159 --> 01:41:53.960
Yes, I did.

01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:59.800
A lot of times these contractors that are in this business bid this work.

01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:03.159
in this case, they put a bid in to get this house

01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:05.180
because they've got a crew of guys

01:42:05.180 --> 01:42:09.140
that they don't have any or much work for right now.

01:42:10.100 --> 01:42:14.039
So they want to get this job to keep their guys on staff,

01:42:14.039 --> 01:42:17.340
keep them working, get the project going.

01:42:19.220 --> 01:42:20.619
That's what makes this work.

01:42:20.619 --> 01:42:25.260
It's a nine month turnaround, he has got to be clicking

01:42:25.260 --> 01:42:28.520
to get that kind of work done in nine months.

01:42:28.520 --> 01:42:35.659
You've got to be moving. You have to have your ducks in a row. You've got to have cash.

01:42:35.659 --> 01:42:42.220
You can't be chasing financing. There's no time for that. If this is something that you're

01:42:42.220 --> 01:42:47.420
looking at that you want to try to help somebody destitute to get a leg up in life, we need

01:42:47.420 --> 01:42:51.960
to find a different project for that. This is not it. This is something that's going

01:42:51.960 --> 01:43:01.579
to take and alleviate us from having to spend $15,000 to $20,000 to tear the building down

01:43:01.579 --> 01:43:07.840
and end up with another lot that we have to mow and maintain. It's going to turn that

01:43:07.840 --> 01:43:18.159
in nine months into a house and a property that's back on the real estate tax rolls.

01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:27.159
We need to get this done. We need to cut it down to simplicity that this is a good thing.

01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:32.399
He may not be the perfect individual. He may end up making this rental property, but we

01:43:32.399 --> 01:43:39.539
need to look at it that that property is no longer money spent out of the city budget,

01:43:39.539 --> 01:43:45.079
but into money coming into the Stevenson County tax rolls that we get a cut of, and we have

01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:48.079
have no lasting expense.

01:43:48.079 --> 01:43:49.640
Agree.

01:43:49.640 --> 01:43:54.079
So what's before you right now is whether or not the council chooses to lay it over

01:43:54.079 --> 01:43:56.079
for three weeks.

01:43:56.079 --> 01:44:00.399
So if there's any discussion on the layover itself, if not, Madam Clerk, would you please

01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:03.000
take the role on the layover?

01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:04.000
Sanders?

01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:05.000
Aye.

01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:06.000
Sellers?

01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:07.000
No.

01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:08.000
Klemm?

01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:09.000
No.

01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:27.079
Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, Shadle, I have three to five.

01:44:27.079 --> 01:44:29.119
The motion fails.

01:44:29.119 --> 01:44:36.640
OK, so now before you is the adoption of this agreement.

01:44:36.640 --> 01:44:39.039
and the motion was Shadle, Klemm.

01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:41.640
If there's no further discussion,

01:44:42.560 --> 01:44:44.579
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:44:44.579 --> 01:44:45.520
Sanders?

01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:47.560
Aye.

01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:48.399
Sellers?

01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:49.220
Aye.

01:44:49.220 --> 01:44:50.060
Klemm?

01:44:50.060 --> 01:44:50.899
Aye.

01:44:50.899 --> 01:44:51.720
Monroe?

01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:52.560
Aye.

01:44:52.560 --> 01:44:53.399
Simmons?

01:44:53.399 --> 01:44:54.220
Aye.

01:44:54.220 --> 01:44:55.060
Parker?

01:44:55.060 --> 01:44:55.899
Aye.

01:44:55.899 --> 01:44:56.720
Stacy?

01:44:56.720 --> 01:44:57.560
No.

01:44:57.560 --> 01:44:58.399
Shadle?

01:44:58.399 --> 01:44:59.220
Aye.

01:44:59.220 --> 01:45:00.319
The resolution is adopted seven to one.

01:45:01.640 --> 01:45:05.479
Item number 14 is adoption of resolution 2024-135.

01:45:05.479 --> 01:45:35.479
Resolution Approving Emergency Purchase of a Sluice Gate Amma Atuator from Dorner Co. Manager, Boyer. Thank you, Your Honor. The wastewater treatment plant has several sluice gates that control the inflow to the plant. Recently, one of those sluice gates failed and staff made the decision on emergency authorization and moved forward with the repair. So as far as the sluice gate is concerned, it's been ordered and installed

01:45:35.479 --> 01:45:46.479
Staff Request Ratification of the $13,385 for the Alma Actuator to repair the sluice key at the wastewater plant.

01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:48.479
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:49.479
So moved.

01:45:49.479 --> 01:45:50.479
Second.

01:45:50.479 --> 01:45:53.479
We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Parker.

01:45:53.479 --> 01:45:55.479
Discussion on the resolution?

01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:57.479
Alderman Sanders.

01:45:57.479 --> 01:46:10.800
Manager, Boyer. At first, when I saw that word, I didn't know what the brand was, but

01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:16.439
I understood what the gait was. I'm like, okay, I never heard of this brand, but okay,

01:46:16.439 --> 01:46:23.560
let's roll with it. But my thing is, it's already installed. It's already installed.

01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:29.239
City Council approved it. We had not approved it. I know it's an emergency kind

01:46:29.239 --> 01:46:37.159
of thing that sometimes council don't get in get there fast enough to give you an

01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:44.980
approval. My question is these are the same gates and the fact that they are

01:46:44.980 --> 01:46:50.319
the same gates and if one breaks down like the one that you're referring to

01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:58.980
Does that gate have a guarantee or replacement? Because I understand the gate

01:46:58.980 --> 01:47:04.199
that is coming out of there is going to be moved to another designated area. Am I

01:47:04.199 --> 01:47:10.119
correct on that? Actually, it's going to be fixed and then put in inventory so if

01:47:10.119 --> 01:47:13.840
we ever have a problem in the future, we have a replacement on hand. Okay, got you. And

01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:37.840
and I just wanted to understand the guys over at the lab technicians and people who control these gates and everything, preventing flooding, that's what the gate is for, isn't it? For the backflow? For backflowing? It has nothing to do with that? For flooding out the plant itself?

01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:43.640
It could involve that. However, you would never get to that point. Essentially, you're modulating the flow into the plan.

01:47:43.640 --> 01:47:58.239
Oh, okay. Okay. Well, that's the question that I wanted to find out whether or not we're going to have episodes, you know, I mean, throughout the city, because I know we're controlling those gates.

01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:03.840
and the fact that we're controlling them, that means we can determine at our own discretion

01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:09.760
without going out into the public of the city to determine how much rainfall or, well, I

01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:19.920
guess it goes by the river to determine that, or is it the rainfall?

01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:22.520
We're putting in a chemically enhanced primary treatment right now.

01:48:22.520 --> 01:48:27.840
The purpose of that is to handle the additional flow we receive during rainstorms.

01:48:27.840 --> 01:48:32.920
and then that we can handle it to run it back to the plant, but the inflow sluice gates

01:48:32.920 --> 01:48:38.079
have nothing, you know, we basically can handle so much flow and that's what we regulate it

01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:39.800
with is the sluice gate.

01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:40.800
Okay.

01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:42.000
Darren?

01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:46.100
Just to be clear, this is just the actuator, this is not the gate.

01:48:46.100 --> 01:48:49.119
This is the motor operator that runs the influent gates.

01:48:49.119 --> 01:48:55.199
The gates are about 25, 30 feet below the surface, so this is the motor operator that

01:48:55.199 --> 01:48:58.199
operates the gate from the operator station.

01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:02.960
Anyone else?

01:49:02.960 --> 01:49:03.840
Alderman, Monroe.

01:49:03.840 --> 01:49:06.840
Do we have pricing from other vendors

01:49:06.840 --> 01:49:11.680
that with respect to that type of electric motor?

01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:14.479
No, we don't, because this is an AMA actuator.

01:49:14.479 --> 01:49:16.640
That's a brand, and that's what it was in there.

01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:19.279
And we replaced it with any kind so our guys could do it,

01:49:19.279 --> 01:49:21.119
because it's the exact same model.

01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:23.520
It's also the same gates that are throughout the plant.

01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:29.960
So when the head works is replaced this can go into another location within the plant. So that's why right

01:49:31.680 --> 01:49:33.680
Anyone else?

01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:40.460
So this is part of our preventive measures am I correct is this part

01:49:40.460 --> 01:49:51.460
Correct. Is this part of a preventive measure? We're being proactive or we're trying to prevent this type of flow?

01:49:51.460 --> 01:50:00.460
We had a failure of the actuator. We bought a new one. We put the new one in. We're taking the old one. We're fixing the old one. We're going to keep it in inventory if we have any more issues.

01:50:00.460 --> 01:50:03.460
Okay, that's proactive. Okay, thank you.

01:50:03.460 --> 01:50:06.460
If there's nothing further, Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:50:06.460 --> 01:50:07.460
Sanders?

01:50:07.460 --> 01:50:08.460
Aye.

01:50:08.460 --> 01:50:09.460
Sellers?

01:50:09.460 --> 01:50:09.960
Aye.

01:50:09.960 --> 01:50:18.159
Klemm, Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, and Shadle.

01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:20.880
The resolution is adopted 8-0.

01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:24.039
Item 15 is the adoption of Resolution 2024-136.

01:50:24.039 --> 01:50:26.000
Could you please read this?

01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:30.279
Resolution authorizing a proposal from Morse Electric regarding installation of variable

01:50:30.279 --> 01:50:34.020
frequency drives at Lynn Street lift station.

01:50:34.020 --> 01:50:35.020
Thank you, Manager Boyer.

01:50:35.020 --> 01:50:36.020
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:50:36.020 --> 01:50:40.880
The City of Freeport uses a series of lift stations to convey waste through the elevation

01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:47.520
changes within the city to go from low areas to other areas where the waste can be gravity

01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:51.340
fed through the main sewer gravity lines.

01:50:51.340 --> 01:50:56.579
The Lynn Street facility is one of the main connection facilities that can handle a significant

01:50:56.579 --> 01:51:02.279
flow of variable frequency drives were purchased with ARPA funds to run the new pumps at the

01:51:02.279 --> 01:51:03.279
facility.

01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:06.600
is now time to install these drives as flows are reduced.

01:51:06.600 --> 01:51:08.039
Due to the importance of this facility,

01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:10.800
the VFDs need to be installed one at a time

01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:13.520
to keep the plant active and running during low flows.

01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:16.920
Electrical upgrades will be done at the same time as needed.

01:51:16.920 --> 01:51:19.960
VFDs allow the pump system to last longer

01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:24.680
and protect the expensive motor replacements on those pumps.

01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:26.880
Staff or our utility maintenance team

01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:28.779
worked with Morris Electric to develop a cost

01:51:28.779 --> 01:51:30.840
for the installing of the VFDs.

01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:32.520
The city has already purchased.

01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:36.760
Morris has done a number of installs at our lift stations and we feel comfortable with

01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:43.399
the scope and quality of work for the retrofit to install the new drives and city staff.

01:51:43.399 --> 01:51:50.920
The financial impact is approximately $15,390.63 for the installation and city staff recommends

01:51:50.920 --> 01:51:53.079
moving forward with the installation.

01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:54.079
Sir motion to adopt.

01:51:54.079 --> 01:51:55.079
So moved.

01:51:55.079 --> 01:51:56.079
Second.

01:51:56.079 --> 01:52:00.279
A motion made by Alderman Klemm, seconded by Alderman Sellers.

01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:09.359
on the resolution, Alderman Sanders.

01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:16.279
Do we have these VFDs, that's what you call them, right, do we have them scheduled during

01:52:16.279 --> 01:52:27.319
certain seasons of the year or do we still have what they call the secondary VFDs to maintain

01:52:27.319 --> 01:52:32.920
the Flow Action where nothing is hindered at these lift stations and they're able to

01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:35.840
continuously be monitored.

01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:42.199
Who does the service work to keep maintaining, you know, like putting oil, changing gaskets

01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:44.420
and all of these kinds of things?

01:52:44.420 --> 01:52:51.560
Do we have people on staff, in our personnel that goes around and look at these things

01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:56.159
or is it more electric that's doing these kinds of things?

01:52:56.159 --> 01:53:17.159
Just to answer your question, I believe there's three pumps there. The purpose of the VFDs are to kind of ramp up and ramp down the pumps to modulate flow depending on the amount of waste that's coming into the lift station. And yes, our staff maintains all the pumps and does all the oil changes and checks on them and that, yeah.

01:53:17.159 --> 01:53:19.159
Okay.

01:53:19.159 --> 01:53:23.159
There's no further discussion. Madam Clerk, please take the role.

01:53:23.159 --> 01:53:36.100
Sanders, Seller, Klemm, Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, and Shadle.

01:53:36.100 --> 01:53:39.640
The resolution is adopted 8-0.

01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:41.279
Item number 16 is approval of bid.

01:53:41.279 --> 01:53:42.640
Can you please read this?

01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:48.779
Bid opening on December 9th for three black four-door police pursuit interceptor utility

01:53:48.779 --> 01:53:49.779
vehicles.

01:53:49.779 --> 01:53:51.340
Chief Shenberger.

01:53:51.340 --> 01:53:52.340
Thank you.

01:53:52.340 --> 01:53:56.460
Police Department has a need to annually replace older vehicles with new vehicles.

01:53:56.460 --> 01:54:00.739
Freeport Police Department budgeted to replace and upfit three marked squad cars

01:54:00.739 --> 01:54:06.100
in 2025. On December 9th, 2024, Freeport Police Department held a squad bid

01:54:06.100 --> 01:54:11.440
opening for new police squad cars and to trade in four older squad cars from the

01:54:11.440 --> 01:54:15.859
police fleet. Prior to the opening, the bid opening was posted on the City of

01:54:15.859 --> 01:54:20.940
Freeport website. At the time of the bid opening, staff received two bids. Bid one

01:54:20.940 --> 01:54:27.500
from Stivers Ford Lincoln in Waukee, Iowa, and bid two, which has been deemed to be unresponsive

01:54:27.500 --> 01:54:31.180
from Bob Maxey Ford in Detroit, Michigan.

01:54:31.180 --> 01:54:39.260
Bid one was Stivers Ford quoted the price for a 2025 Ford police interceptor at $48,190.

01:54:39.260 --> 01:54:44.760
Stivers Ford also gave a trade-in value of $19,000 for the four older squad cars that

01:54:44.760 --> 01:54:46.300
would be traded in.

01:54:46.300 --> 01:54:56.819
The total cost for the three new squad cars minus the four trade-ins would be $125,570.

01:54:56.819 --> 01:55:04.579
Bob Maxey quoted the price for a 2025 Ford Interceptor at $46,560.

01:55:04.579 --> 01:55:09.659
Bob Maxey Ford did not give trade-in values for the four older squads that need to be

01:55:09.659 --> 01:55:10.779
traded in.

01:55:10.779 --> 01:55:17.260
The cost for the three new squad cars would be $139,680.

01:55:17.260 --> 01:55:23.859
So staff recommends the acceptance of the Stivers forward squad bid proposal.

01:55:23.859 --> 01:55:26.300
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:55:26.300 --> 01:55:27.659
Second.

01:55:27.659 --> 01:55:32.859
We have a motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Sellers.

01:55:32.859 --> 01:55:36.260
Discussion on the bid.

01:55:36.260 --> 01:55:39.340
Madam Clerk, Alderman Stacy.

01:55:39.340 --> 01:55:43.500
The 19,000 is for the old vehicles?

01:55:43.500 --> 01:55:44.460
Correct.

01:55:44.460 --> 01:55:45.779
Total or each?

01:55:45.779 --> 01:55:46.699
Total.

01:55:46.699 --> 01:55:47.380
Yes, total.

01:55:51.659 --> 01:55:52.739
Alderman, Monroe?

01:55:52.739 --> 01:55:56.180
Chief, have we ever looked at purchasing vehicles that

01:55:56.180 --> 01:56:00.579
are not the interceptor version since we tend not

01:56:00.579 --> 01:56:05.300
to pursue in most instances?

01:56:05.300 --> 01:56:08.060
Well, I think the thing that we need to consider is our squad

01:56:08.060 --> 01:56:10.539
Car's Run 24-7-365.

01:56:10.539 --> 01:56:13.060
So there's a lot of wear and tear with them.

01:56:13.060 --> 01:56:17.159
And the police interceptor model,

01:56:17.159 --> 01:56:22.159
it's geared for that type of usage, I guess you could say.

01:56:22.560 --> 01:56:25.359
We also wanna have a uniform fleet

01:56:25.359 --> 01:56:27.960
so we don't have mix and match vehicles.

01:56:27.960 --> 01:56:30.359
So then it's cheaper to, you know, when you trade them in,

01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:32.880
you can use old equipment.

01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:35.800
We also have very capable mechanics down at the city yards

01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:40.600
We've saved us a lot of money this year working on our Fords.

01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:44.140
We have two Dodges that have been giving us a lot of problems and costing a lot of money

01:56:44.140 --> 01:56:51.680
to get them fixed because they have proprietary software and just even from my personal life

01:56:51.680 --> 01:56:52.680
I have a Dodge Durango.

01:56:52.680 --> 01:56:55.199
I can't even buy parts at Napa for it.

01:56:55.199 --> 01:56:56.600
You have to go through the dealership.

01:56:56.600 --> 01:57:03.279
So the goal is to have all Fords that seem to work well for us and it's also easier

01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:07.279
We're here to have our mechanics down at the yards take care of our vehicles.

01:57:07.279 --> 01:57:11.279
Sounds good. And I think the pricing that you're getting back for the other

01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:15.279
vehicles is pretty good. Yeah, these are older cars, you know, with a lot of miles.

01:57:15.279 --> 01:57:19.279
Again, they've been, they were in service for three or four

01:57:19.279 --> 01:57:23.279
years, so they've just mostly been travel cars

01:57:23.279 --> 01:57:27.279
except for one of them was the auxiliary's vehicle.

01:57:27.279 --> 01:57:31.279
And that thing hasn't, we haven't used that in a long time. And if we do, it's

01:57:31.279 --> 01:57:32.279
and others.

01:57:32.279 --> 01:57:35.279
It's very, very rare that we use it.

01:57:35.279 --> 01:57:37.279
Alderman Sanders?

01:57:37.279 --> 01:57:38.279
Yeah.

01:57:38.279 --> 01:57:44.359
Chief, I'm looking at the total for the three vehicles, but what we're not doing is talking

01:57:44.359 --> 01:57:51.600
about the modification cost for these vehicles and the upgrades and everything else, and

01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:56.720
we should be looking at that as well in this package.

01:57:56.720 --> 01:57:57.720
This is just...

01:57:57.720 --> 01:57:58.720
I'm sorry, sir.

01:57:58.720 --> 01:57:59.720
Go ahead.

01:57:59.720 --> 01:58:07.319
just the bid opening but you know when I come to the council for approval I'll have that.

01:58:07.319 --> 01:58:12.640
I can tell you right now if we do if we're if we are able to get three squad cards it's

01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:17.159
going to be around fourteen thousand dollars for all three of them to be updated.

01:58:17.159 --> 01:58:20.640
To be updated okay yeah thank you.

01:58:20.640 --> 01:58:27.119
Anyone else before Alderman Stacey's second, Alderman Stacey.

01:58:27.119 --> 01:58:38.279
So I'm trusting that your department have this money, that you budget it for three.

01:58:38.279 --> 01:58:40.680
We budgeted $170,000.

01:58:40.680 --> 01:58:42.680
Okay.

01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:45.920
So it should come way under budget.

01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:46.920
Thank you.

01:58:46.920 --> 01:58:47.920
Very good.

01:58:47.920 --> 01:58:48.920
There's no further discussion.

01:58:48.920 --> 01:58:52.000
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:53.000
Sanders?

01:58:53.000 --> 01:58:54.000
Aye.

01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:55.000
Sellers is absent.

01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:56.000
Klemm?

01:58:56.000 --> 01:58:57.000
Aye.

01:58:57.000 --> 01:59:10.079
Simmons, Parker, Stacey, and Shadle. The motion passes 7 to 0. Item number 18 is

01:59:10.079 --> 01:59:14.340
another bid approval. Could you please read this? This bid opening was held on

01:59:14.340 --> 01:59:20.140
December 10th 2024 for roof repairs for hangar J. Am I the wrong one? We removed

01:59:20.140 --> 01:59:29.140
This bid opening was held on December 10th, 2024 for historical storm windows for City Hall.

01:59:29.140 --> 01:59:32.140
Thank you. Manager Boyer.

01:59:32.140 --> 01:59:34.140
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:59:34.140 --> 01:59:40.140
So each year here at City Hall, we have a historic building and part of that historic building is

01:59:40.140 --> 01:59:40.640
Golding.

01:59:40.640 --> 01:59:46.640
and part of that historic building and part of its charm is that it has single pane windows throughout.

01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:58.640
Single pane windows are terrible at, have no real insulating value whenever the building warms up but it is conducted directly outside through those single pane windows.

01:59:58.640 --> 02:00:06.640
Also the freeze and thaw and the expansion and contraction of the wood windows also leads to more maintenance.

02:00:06.640 --> 02:00:11.900
This year we had all the window sashes and all the windows repainted and we would like

02:00:11.900 --> 02:00:18.119
to order and install new storm windows here in the building.

02:00:18.119 --> 02:00:24.560
One of the challenges we have is the HVAC system here in City Hall on cold days barely

02:00:24.560 --> 02:00:26.920
keeps up because it's all on a heat pump.

02:00:26.920 --> 02:00:32.500
So we really need to conserve as much heat as possible and we have about 106 windows

02:00:32.500 --> 02:00:37.340
here in City Hall all of which are conducting that heat right outside so

02:00:37.340 --> 02:00:44.860
staff inquired as to what it would take to get some storm windows put in because

02:00:44.860 --> 02:00:52.060
of our historic building category they have to be done with oversight from I

02:00:52.060 --> 02:00:55.780
believe the Historic Building Commission we have been in contact with

02:00:55.780 --> 02:01:01.860
them and they've recommended a specific style of storm window and so we're

02:01:01.860 --> 02:01:09.860
We're coming to Council tonight to ask for a resolution to approve and manufacture and install of those windows.

02:01:09.860 --> 02:01:17.860
With that being said, the total amount of the, the total financial ask is $123,900.

02:01:17.860 --> 02:01:22.860
This is a lot of money. However, we will be in this building for many, many years.

02:01:22.860 --> 02:01:28.860
And we just got done spending about $100,000 fixing all the windows. I'm sorry, more than $100,000.

02:01:28.860 --> 02:01:36.579
So in the long term it's going to be most more cost-effective than paying somebody every five to seven years to repaint all the windows and

02:01:36.579 --> 02:01:43.619
Then repair all the rotted boards and that kind of thing in the meantime. We will save some energy cost and make it more

02:01:44.539 --> 02:01:46.300
Comfortable for staff to get the work done

02:01:46.300 --> 02:01:50.460
I will remind everyone on the coldest day of the year in this building

02:01:50.460 --> 02:01:54.420
You can see your own breath and you have to sit and wear a coat the entire day

02:01:54.420 --> 02:01:58.780
So with that, I don't know if Darren has anything. Would you like to carry on with that?

02:01:58.860 --> 02:02:05.860
So this was planned as a phase two project from the upgrades that we did with the windows and sashes like Rob mentioned.

02:02:05.860 --> 02:02:14.860
Just some background, there's only two companies that make historical storm windows that have good reputations.

02:02:14.860 --> 02:02:20.860
We researched both of them. We landed on this product because it's custom fit to each window.

02:02:20.860 --> 02:02:24.860
City Hall is old here and most of the exterior windows have irregularity.

02:02:24.860 --> 02:02:54.860
We did some preliminary measurements, and the windows are not all even, so also the state of Illinois requires a historical storm. We actually, a few years ago, had a storm that was installed as a sample back here that was just a standard fit one that we just went and got from a hardware store and took a picture of it and asked them if they had accepted it. They rejected it. They rejected it.

02:02:54.860 --> 02:02:57.820
who rejected that and said due to the historical nature

02:02:57.820 --> 02:02:59.940
of this building, they have to be done that way.

02:02:59.940 --> 02:03:03.180
So, which this is a very thin frame,

02:03:03.180 --> 02:03:05.060
so they won't be very noticeable.

02:03:05.060 --> 02:03:09.380
And forgive me, I don't remember the amount,

02:03:09.380 --> 02:03:11.700
but I believe there's 106 windows.

02:03:11.700 --> 02:03:14.140
And these have to be, if you do one window,

02:03:14.140 --> 02:03:16.060
you have to do them all.

02:03:16.060 --> 02:03:17.160
That is the requirement.

02:03:17.160 --> 02:03:21.579
So that is the plan, including the half scaped windows,

02:03:21.579 --> 02:03:25.300
if you will, the stained glass ones that are out front.

02:03:27.300 --> 02:03:30.740
So is there a motion to approve the bid?

02:03:30.740 --> 02:03:32.100
So moved.

02:03:32.100 --> 02:03:33.619
Second.

02:03:33.619 --> 02:03:35.300
A motion made by Alderman Shadle,

02:03:35.300 --> 02:03:36.740
seconded by Alderman Klemm.

02:03:36.740 --> 02:03:38.420
Discussion, Alderman Stacy.

02:03:40.300 --> 02:03:43.539
I understand that we need windows.

02:03:43.539 --> 02:03:47.900
I understand that they have to be historic windows

02:03:47.900 --> 02:03:50.860
that require certain requirements.

02:03:51.579 --> 02:04:09.579
However, I don't understand how or why we would even think we have to pay $112 times 106 windows.

02:04:09.579 --> 02:04:16.579
I don't know where you're looking at to say there's only two companies out there.

02:04:16.579 --> 02:04:31.100
but I just think that's just over the top and that that's extremely too high 106

02:04:31.100 --> 02:04:35.620
windows at a hundred and twelve dollars per window

02:04:37.900 --> 02:04:44.700
Alderman Sellers? Yeah I think it's a thousand isn't per window a thousand

02:04:44.700 --> 02:05:14.700
Johnson, John, John, John, John,

02:05:14.700 --> 02:05:19.940
and two companies that the state of Illinois would approve for these type of windows on

02:05:19.940 --> 02:05:20.940
a historical building.

02:05:20.940 --> 02:05:24.980
Again, you can't just go get them from Menards or something like that.

02:05:24.980 --> 02:05:31.780
And based on cost, because we did cost to just purchase the windows outright, this is

02:05:31.780 --> 02:05:35.100
not an unreasonable cost to install them.

02:05:35.100 --> 02:05:37.460
They're very expensive.

02:05:37.460 --> 02:05:43.020
We thought that this system of the brand that we picked was superior to the other manufacturer

02:05:43.020 --> 02:05:44.180
that was there.

02:05:44.180 --> 02:05:47.220
We've done a lot of research on this over the last two years.

02:05:47.220 --> 02:05:51.340
Unfortunately, if we want to add storm windows,

02:05:51.340 --> 02:05:52.380
this is the cost.

02:05:52.380 --> 02:05:54.140
We solicited bids.

02:05:54.140 --> 02:05:55.920
We could only get NICAM to bid, which

02:05:55.920 --> 02:05:58.220
they're the ones that were the GC on fixing

02:05:58.220 --> 02:05:59.740
the windows to start with.

02:05:59.740 --> 02:06:04.980
So there's more work involved here than what you think.

02:06:04.980 --> 02:06:09.079
And again, I agree with Joy's assessment.

02:06:09.079 --> 02:06:11.660
We did take their liberty to make sure

02:06:11.659 --> 02:06:12.659
and others.

02:06:12.659 --> 02:06:15.159
I want to make sure that if we were ordering them, we did put low-E glass on them, which

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will save some of the heat in here in the summer.

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They will seal better, so we'll be saving some energy efficiencies within the building

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that we currently don't have on heat and AC.

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But ultimately, it's your decision whether you want to move forward.

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Alderman Sanders.

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In your research, did we look into the fact that the products that we're seeking are the

02:06:40.579 --> 02:06:53.579
We have some products that we actually need or want, and then did we also ask, are there discounts to consider?

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This is the discounted rate. If we delay, which we can, the price will go up in January because there is a price increase in January.

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We've talked to the manufacturer before the bid opened.

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Okay. Okay. Thank you.

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this is the product that we want there is again we had to submit these to the

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State Historical Society and they approve them to go on this building because it's

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registered and I want to step back this goes all the way back to remodeling this

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building way back when when we purchased it we knew that that historical items

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were going to apply because this building was registered and the council

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at that time decided decided not to build a new facility which would not

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have all these requirements but anything that's done down to the painting of the

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windows we had to paint them the identically same color because of the

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historical value of the building we couldn't change the color if we wanted it

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it's no different with these storm items it wouldn't be any different with

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anything that we replaced on this building it will have to be done to the

02:07:52.539 --> 02:07:56.400
historical value and it has to be approved we couldn't even do tuck

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pointing on the building without getting the state to approve it also so wait a

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take a second time Alderman Sanders.

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Okay, okay Mayor, yes I do.

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See I forgot, I got too old.

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It will come back to you if you need to.

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Alderman Monroe.

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Thank you Madam Mayor.

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How much money do we spend on the windows this year

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in 2024?

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I don't remember on top of my head.

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Look it up, it's right there.

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Like 171.

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1000? Yes. This, this is the mind boggling tax and spend. We don't care. We're going to say yes. I got several older people up here who clearly love to spend the taxpayers money. I got a mayor that loves to do it. And this is now we're back up to 200 over 200 and something thousand dollars and we could have replaced them this year.

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This is insanity. It's complete insanity.

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Manager Boyer.

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Boyer. Alderman Morell, we needed to get the painting done first and then we wanted to see where we were going to be and now that we have we have a little bit extra here we could order the materials and get that going this year. Staff is just asking for us to not only maintain the building and create an environment where everybody's comfortable and on the coldest day of the year we don't have to wear coats but it should have been done before now okay. It should have been done with 132,000 it was spent

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Go ahead. You know and I appreciate your comment but that's actually not true we

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have to do the paint and the maintenance of the windows before we put storm

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windows on top of them. Or we can just neglect maintenance and end up like the

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old City Hall. Alderman Stacy would you like your second time? According to

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Darren you all have been looking at this for a couple years now so it's just

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liegt because he would like us to do this.

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This is—I will lay the order.

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These are all rights that we have.

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Let me know, correct me if I'm scratching your

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Public Columns goodbye,

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Alderman, Monroe. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yeah, I agree with you. And the fact that we're to believe that there's only two vendors in the entire state of Illinois, or in Wisconsin or anywhere else. There's only two, and one of them happens to be in Freeport, Illinois. I will tell you, when I look up NICAM, General Contractor. So we're subcontracting this is, is basically what we're doing.

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Or is Nikam putting the windows in and we're buying the windows from somewhere else?

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Correct. Because that's not the way this reads. They're buying the windows that we specified and they're installing them.

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So

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you know, I guess

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Yeah, I guess, you know, the question really becomes, you know, we put

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once before needs and that's what this boils down to.

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this is why I got upset about the fire engine when we've got a water line that needs to go out to open Bible when we've got windows that need to be replaced on a building so that our staff can stay warm and cool it's having a plan that we execute upon that puts our needs before our wants because we've only got so much money we can take continue to take from the citizens of Freeport

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and these windows while I'll agree they're needed there's a lot of improvements to this building that are needed but we have to quit just spending nonstop and once again tonight we come back with additional spend workers comp that goes way up because we raise salaries and it'll go up again and we just say okay but this all keeps coming back to the spending habits of this

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and others.

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So, we have to go back to the constituents and the people that we were elected to represent

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and tell them why we continuously don't do projects to completion, we partially do them

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and then come back and it's an emergency and we want to do things, always suspend the rules

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and we've got to order it by next week or the price is going up. It's always something

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and it's gotten to the point that it's unbelievable that we go to that point. I appreciate the

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Chief saving money with his vehicles. Very much well appreciated. But this is insanity.

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Tichet. Tichet. Darren. Yeah. So again, this is not emergent. And if you choose not to approve the bid, we can re-bid it later. That's totally fine with me or it can be canned. This was requested to be bid. I bet if we go back in the minutes, the window approvals were made to paint the windows. And at that time, we said it was expensive, and we were going to have to split to do the windows and then see where we were at for the storm windows.

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We couldn't do the storm windows at the same time because A, it was budgeted, but we didn't have enough budget to do both. So that's why it's been pushed to this end of the year so it can be moved into the 2025 budget.

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Again, there's no pressure from me to approve or not approve this. They are custom. You guys can do the research if you want. There is only two manufacturers that we could come up with that the state would approve.

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We feel that we've picked the best one.

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We feel that this will be the best longevity of project.

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And I will state, all of these discussions,

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while you guys were not on the board,

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I think Mr. Klemm was, this was the discussion

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of the processes that would happen

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when we chose to move City Hall to this building,

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that there would be exorbitant costs

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that would come in the future to upkeep a historical building.

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That's not on the people that are sitting here,

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that's on the people that made the decisions to move here

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and we're bound by those choices now

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or we just don't maintain it, which that's your choice

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and I'm fine with that, but that is a decision

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that was made when we made,

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when the city chose to move to this building.

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One other thing I wanted to point out,

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we couldn't do the storm windows till we fixed the windows

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because we had to replace quite a few of the sashes

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because they were rotting.

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And so we couldn't do them at the same time.

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But again, is City Hall going to fail tomorrow

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if we don't replace these windows?

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No, but our investment in the paint

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may not make it as long as we were hoping.

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That's the only truth here.

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I'm sorry, Alderman Sanders, you've spoken twice already.

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I had alderman Sellers twice.

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Yes, so I do understand that we do need new windows

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and if we do continue to constantly wait and wait and wait, the prices will go up because like I said, we were looking at windows at our church and that was like three, four years ago so I know when we look at them again, they're going to be up a little higher so we're either going to take care of the building so we don't have a dilapidated city hall or we're going to continue to go round and round and round

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Brown on issues that we know we've got to do it either now or later. It has to be done.

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So either we're going to do it now at $1,000 a window, or we're going to do it later at

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$1,500 a window. So, you know, it's our decision. I mean, we've got to do it now and get it

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over with and move on.

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So vote to approve or deny it.

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Let me get clarity on this, ma'am.

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Clarity is Sellers, Sanders, Stacy, and Monroe have all spoken a few times.

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I wasn't ready so you moved to Monroe. He started the second round. I didn't get a chance because I wasn't ready to start it because I had not thought about what Mr. Darin was talking about. So I passed that, you passed it. I didn't pass it. And then you put Monroe right there.

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So, can you wrap it up? What are we doing? You have spoken twice, but if you're

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insistent, go ahead. No, it wasn't that I'm insisting. I just didn't speak because

02:17:54.460 --> 02:18:00.780
you passed me. Go ahead and speak. Well, I forgot it now. Okay, so if there's no

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further discussion, Madam Clerk, would you please take the role?

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Sanders, Sellers, Klemm, Monroe, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, and Shadle. The motion passes 6 to 2.

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And item number 19 is reports from Department Heads, Finance. Thank you.

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Nothing tonight, Madam Mayor. Thank you. Public Works? Just a quick update on Adams Avenue. You should see the traffic controls start to be removed tomorrow. The vast majority of it's done. Some restoration may leak over to spring, but otherwise the vast majority is done. We also have had quite a few comments about the remaining portion of Adams, and we are working on a plan, which when I say that, that's from Float to Exchange. We're working

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on a plan to try to address that for next season.

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But it was not currently in the Adams plan.

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So more to come on that.

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And lastly, I'd like to tell you guys

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that we had some damage done by Comcast here in town

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and staff was able to negotiate with Comcast

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and we will be receiving an insurance claim check

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for I believe it's about $18,000 in lieu of those repairs.

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Boyer?

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Nothing this evening.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Police?

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I have no report.

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Thank you.

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IT?

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Nothing in action.

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I just want to say thank you to the staff and also council for getting this aggressive agenda

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done at the end of the year. Unfortunately, we tried to not have so much on here, but

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we didn't do so well. But I thank you very much for all your support.

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And all I would like to say is Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, see you after the first. Alderman

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Sanders would be up first, but he's not here, so we'll move on to Alderman Sellers.

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Yes, I would just like to say thank you all, so to everybody that has done the work that

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we've done this year and the accomplishments and the beautifications and the upgrades we've

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done and just seeing the progress we have done together as a team.

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I just feel so proud to be a part of everything that we have done and wish everybody a Merry

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Christmas and God bless you in the New Year.

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I agree.

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Alderman Klemm?

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I'd just like to thank all the city workers for the time that they've put in and the success they've had with projects they've done this year.

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It's been extremely important, the total picture of what's been done by the Council and not by the Council, but by the managers and everybody involved.

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I'd just like to wish everybody Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

02:21:00.640 --> 02:21:01.640
Alderman Monroe.

02:21:01.640 --> 02:21:04.640
Same, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone.

02:21:04.640 --> 02:21:05.640
Alderman Simmons.

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The only thing is that we do not have a Neighborhood Watch meeting next Monday. They all decided

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that it's too close to Christmas, so we will not have one. And Merry Christmas to everybody.

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Alderman Stacy?

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I would just like to say, Happy Holidays.

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Alderman Shadle?

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I'm sorry.

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Alderman Shadle?

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I reiterate the Merry Christmas to everybody.

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Keep in mind that if it happens to snow,

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our street department's gonna be working.

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There's gonna be a shift of police officers working.

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There's gonna be a shift of firemen working.

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And keep your thoughts with them.

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Move on to item number 23, is public comment.

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Is there any public comment?

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Bernie?

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I just couldn't help but kind of chuckle on one comment that was being made. When we were talking about composting at the landfill, I recall me and Mr. Mooring and Mr. Gill was sitting there with Mr. Gullman composting yard waste.

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and apparently we had a permit at that point in time what we were doing back

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then was ahead of the time now we're going back and trying to get this start

02:22:38.200 --> 02:22:44.880
started again I guess I was ahead of my time at that time and we've lost our

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vision of moving forward I do appreciate what you did on the discussion of the

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and the Land Bank. I think the Land Bank is kind of a good idea. One thing that was never

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discussed on the Land Bank was the fact that $8,000 was the bid. Was that $8,000 to fix

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the property or just a down payment? How much was going to be invested in that property?

02:23:15.040 --> 02:23:23.040
If it's just 8,000, we're going to be back in the same old boat as we did before, just a different owner.

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And I just want to say one thing.

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Strategic planning is the process of accumulating or articulating where and what an organization wants to be in the future.

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During the strategic planning process, stakeholders review and define the organization's mission,

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values, vision, statements including the identification of goals, objectives, strategies, tactics,

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and conduct priority service assessments.

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The mission is the organization's statement of purpose and reason for existing.

02:24:06.680 --> 02:24:13.320
The values are the ethical and cultural principles that guide its behavior and actions.

02:24:13.320 --> 02:24:19.360
The vision represents the future that the organization aims to achieve.

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Goals are desired outcomes that the organization aims to accomplish.

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Objectives are the actionable targets that must be reached to meet the specific goals.

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and others.

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These are plans or approaches designed to accomplish objectives and tactics are the small actionable

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items.

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I think we're spending way too much time on the tactics, the small actual items, and

02:24:46.960 --> 02:24:52.680
not enough on the vision of where we want to be.

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As we, you know, the future, I just happened was listening to Notre Dominus talking about

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the future.

02:25:00.920 --> 02:25:07.440
We probably don't have a future, a future vision. Most people just repeat the past.

02:25:07.440 --> 02:25:08.920
Mr. McGulley, your time is up.

02:25:08.920 --> 02:25:16.460
We need to be the future and move on. So I hope we find a way to define where we want

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to be instead of argue about it.

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Angie, I apologize. I overlooked you. Did you have a report?

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No.

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Good. Okay. I apologize. Any other public comments?

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Go ahead you have three minutes. Can you state your name? My name is David

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Coverson. I have a question for him. I used to be a landlord and I sold my

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properties for like less than highly enough and so if you put on a land

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Contract for them and it's given like ten years paid off or they might it might

02:25:57.200 --> 02:26:03.040
work out because it did for me and my homes are almost paid off and they're

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almost sold and I only charge them three hundred dollars a month it's a really

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and the Chief Payment, so you just think about it.

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Any other public comments?

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Tommy?

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Police Chief, you do a good job working in that police department.

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and Darian Dickerman, you find out about that Jersey Mike Mr.

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I don't have a report on Jersey Mikes, but I'm hungry for it, so hopefully next week.

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In the world, you do a good job speaking.

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Are there any other public comments?

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Seeing none, I'll entertain a motion for adjournment.

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So moved.

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Second.

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The motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle.

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All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

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Opposed?