We don't have a horn. Do we? Come on. What's your deal? Why don't I say this is all nice and cool by the way?


You know, right? You're sending us a message. I know you're here before, but you're also hitting with your dance.


How you doing? Are you doing fine? Okay, how's it going? We'll call the special meeting to order, Madam Clerk, if you can call the roll.


Mayor, Miller, Mayor Miller present on roll call? Here. Alderpersons, Klemm? Here. Monroe? Here. Simmons is absent. Parker? Here. Stacy? Here. Shadle? Here. Sanders and Sellers are absent. But we do have a quorum, Chair.


Very good. Could you join me in the Pledge of Allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


full of the agenda so move second there was none so we moved to item six which is discussion of the following budget items general fund revenue government building cemetery neighborhoods tourism debt service health care landfill closure Garbage, Downtown Revitalization Loan, and Manager Boyer. Thank you.


There we go. All right, good evening everyone. So we're going to talk about revenues tonight and we're going to start with basically everything from 101,001, and the property taxes.


So the first one, so just, sorry I'm getting a little distracted there. So we'll start here with the first one, the property taxes.


So we budgeted the same amount as last year for property taxes. However, we're still waiting on the EAV to make this correct.


So right now we've got about $2.8 million budgeted in revenue for property taxes. Tax. We're looking at about 1.4 million. The portion we received for the income tax is based on the 2020 census figures. So again, this is an estimate. Replacement tax. Corporate, we're looking at some reductions, primarily due to the state reallocation of funds from the local government distributed fund and the personal property replacement tax. So that will be lower than it was last year.


Mayor. Municipal sales tax about $5.8 million. This is not including the 1% that we moved forward last year. I'm sorry, earlier this year in March. That will be reflected in the street budget in ensuing meetings. Municipal sales tax, the Home Rule sales tax, it's 1.25% that's 4.6 that's what we're estimating for next year. Special use tax so this is 599,000 this has been decreasing over the past years due to leveling of the playing field act of 2021. We've got video game tax 605,000. The Illinois Gaming Board website has all the details in our area and how much we collect so So this is continuing to move along. Cannabis use tax, state allocation based on the population as we don't have a dispensary here in town so we get an estimate from the state so that'll be 39,000.


IDOT reimbursement for maintenance at $85,000. That's yearly, that's for maintaining IDOT thoroughfares through town. That would be minor repairs and that type of thing, pothole patching and such.


Reimbursement for traffic signals, $25,000, and that's a reimbursement from the state for repairs to traffic signals in State Right-of-Way.


We've got food and beverage, about $840,000. That's 1.25 local tax directly back to the City of Freeport for food and beverage.


Electric tax, we're looking at about $880,000 from ComEd and natural gas, $660,000 from NICOR.


Telephone Use Tax. Again, this one is continuing to decrease over the years. So right now we're budgeting for $198,000 for this year, but it will continue to drop.


Cable TV. Similar situation. We're budgeting for $260,000 this year, but it's decreasing as people cut the cord.


And we'll be evaluating any kind of streaming tax that we can do to replace that in the future.


We've got reimbursement for fire, so there's $25,000. That's training and other salary reimbursements and then same thing for police, $25,000 and also again salary reimbursements.


Small miscellaneous grants, we have left blank due to the fact that we don't know what we'll receive, so that will change as the year progresses.


and then of course federal grant ARPA is no longer in effect. Sustained traffic enforcement so that's a grant for the police so holiday traffic stops and safety related funding there so about 20,000 and I'll move down here to a few of these other ones. Liquor licenses we receive about a hundred thousand dollars in revenue each year for liquor licenses so approximately ten thousand dollars a Peace, and we're we're receiving income from about 10 different establishments.


Moving on down to construction and local and zoning permits about $200,000 a year in in those and we'll move down to 101 4620 Airport fuel sales. We're receiving about $190,000 a year in fuel sales, $46.70 down at the bottom, miscellaneous other charges for service, that is for grave openings and so forth, so we've got about $20,000 a year coming in from that.


What is that from? That'd be the fees that we charge to open graves and inter people when they are interred at the Cemetery.


Let's see here, fines, traffic, DUIs, ordinance and that, about $140,000 per year, so we're budgeting for that through the Circuit Clerk.


down to 4730 city ordinance fines. We receive about $55,000 a year in ordinance violation fines, adjudication hearings, and so forth. If you don't mind, I'd like to move down to 4020 water sewer in lieu of taxes. So this is paid from the water and sewer to the city as well as the next three water and sewer accountancy fee and the distribution to corporate fund. So these are are all the utility compensating the city for work related to those.


And then interest income, we're budgeting about $900,000 in interest income. So this is the interest generated from all accounting funds.


From all what? So this is the interest that we receive from all the accrued funds that are sitting in bank accounts.


So we're generating about $900,000 in interest each year. And then transfer from Fund 32, that's $770,000.


And that's from Fund 331, capital fire improvement, about 54% of the net ambulance revenues.


So with that, our total revenue estimate or revenue budget for 2025 is $25,485,575. That is down slightly from 2024, but there are a few things that we don't have in here yet as I mentioned in the beginning.


We have an update of the EAV calculations, so we'll see what happens with that.


Yes, Joy? Excuse me. What is foreign? Is it sheriff or shift? What is that? What code is it? Which one are you looking at? 4705. What is that? Excuse me. Michelle would you like to comment on that one? I might ask Chief to because it comes from the circuit clerk's office. So we get several fees that come through the courts. I think it's maybe something about being served out of the county.


or something like that, we get a fee. Yeah, I honestly I wouldn't be able to tell you because I never get to see the money coming in, but if that's what you're saying...


but if that's what you're saying that could be the amounts that we put on warrants when when we serve a warrant I had a couple questions with these zeros like the special event permit and fees right so those are gonna be so small we We're not 100% sure what we're going to receive and so we don't bother entering it.


And the federal grant as well? Well federal grant ARPA is over. If you're referring to Fund 4356, that's no longer in effect.


It's just a legacy left over from a couple years ago. Greg? Alderman Klemmler. McClendon, Greg, Holden, McClendon, Rob, could you tell us, you kind of went over it, but what is Fund 32, it's the one down next to the bottom, 4950, Ambulance, Ambulance, okay.


I'm gonna have the Chief go ahead and fill in on that one. It's the proceeds from ambulance billing and transports, whereas the city by ordinance takes 54% of that, so that represents that figure there.


Thank you, we just donated to that, appreciate it, you guys did a great job, thank you.


Just didn't know what it was, sorry. I just would like to make a comment on that, I feel like we have to, we should be finding and point a note we did make an extra contribution or we budgeted for a small the process of transferring that back in do you recall what that was Michelle on on the fun 32 transfer from pump fun 32 we reduced the amount of transfer by I I think about a hundred thousand dollars so that we can begin to make that kind of be in line with what Alderman Shadle mentioned. I know we're less than what we have budgeted this year, but it's it's truly based on the ordinance and there's a set formula on how that's supposed to be done. 54% like you say comes back to the general fund. Another thought with that was the way that I've had with the


and City Manager is perhaps that should be or a portion be earmarked for Public Works equipment because they are having the same problem as buyers having to about being able to replace those big trucks.


Certainly. Good question. Thank you. Alderman Klein. When was the ordinance changed? I thought, sorry, I thought the percentage was changed maybe back in 19 or so, but I would have to look it up, I'm sorry.


Okay. Would you just for curiosity, thank you. I have a question. Can they repeat what the transfer from Fund 32 means? Because I don't understand it. Who was talking about it?


Sure. Sure. Michelle, would you mind explaining that to me? So Fund, it says 32, but it's 332 since we changed the new account, the new software. But 332 brings in all the ambulance revenue for the fire department.


and some of the equipment needs for the fire department are expensed out of that department, out of that fund as well and there's an ordinance that exists on the codified ordinances that 54% of the net revenue generated in that fund comes back to the general fund.


So that's what I'm doing because it's an ordinance, it's in stone. This money that's taken in, in this fund, is supposed to be used, as it was originally written, was supposed to be used for fire department apparatus, new trucks, as they come for need.


and I have a funding source for that and through the course of time some of that money, 54 percent, has been diverted from that fund into the general fund and I'm just saying that we need to, I feel we need to look at getting things back to keeping that money in the fund so that when these trucks do wear out that a quarter of a million dollars we're not borrowing and others.


So, we've got a lot of money that we've got the money saved for it.


And I just feel that's something we need to put on our radar and revisit.


Okay. And do we know out of the 54 percent what that amount was, you know, so that I can kind of know what the 54 percent of that was that went into the general fund?


That it'd be the 7, 7, 8. Oh, okay. That went into the general fund?


Yes. May I add to that as well please? Absolutely. So, yes, Alderman Shadle is correct. It was intended for apparatus, but that's the Fire Department Capital Fund. It is also much broader used for that fund. It's also paying for Central Fire Station. It's paying for hose equipment, support equipment for the Fire Department. So that takes pressure off the and General Fund. So, within 332, it's accounted for apparatus, the large trucks, cars, ambulances, again, the stations, various lengths of hose, firefighting foam. So, everything that, a great deal of things that we need for operations, consumables, comes out of that fund.


and then the 101 Fund, the general fund is largely for salaries and benefits. So we did do a study, an amortization study of what it would cost per year out of that fund to allow for replacement of apparatus and not having to finance anything.


So if we started this year up until when all the other apparatus that we have need to be and others.


Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just wanted to know what caused the change to make us do that? To take the 50% off and put it in the general fund? Why can't it just stay the way it was?


We've been doing this as long as I've been here and that's 10 years. The ordinance goes back to 2008 originally.


and John. So this isn't new. Maybe the percentage, it looks like the percentage was changed just briefly from, you know, up to a higher percentage from 18 to 19, but otherwise it is the same.


Okay. Thank you, Alderman Shadle. That would be great if it were used and utilized in a manner and Mr.


Bates, and I'm going to say that we've been asking about this for almost four years now. This is on top of all of the funding that the fire department has already asked for out of the general fund this year. We've replaced a ladder truck, we've replaced an engine, we've replaced three ambulances. Have we not? And we've replaced a bunch of hose and other equipment.


So it's important that we kind of put this into perspective Time, that we need to address. And by moving that money back into the fire department, it doesn't really free up money. It actually puts strain and stress on the other assets of the city. So right now, we're already having problems with public works. We're having problems with the police department at times. And we have to replace a lot of equipment. That money is important, but it's not really a fire department slush fund. And that is something we need to avoid as we go through the coming years because look I mean we just got a new chief vehicle I mean I could go on and on and on the stuff that we've bought in the last four years.


and on and on, the stuff that we've bought in the last four years. It's important.


I was throwing it out there for future debate. Yeah. Well, that's fine. But, you know, the problem is, is it puts into perspective. We can debate that further when we debate it.


I was just throwing the idea out there. Yeah. Well, I'm throwing a different idea out there.


So. Hold on. Manager Boyer? Chief, would you like to speak to that point? Sure, if I may.


We don't run fire apparatus on every ambulance call. Absolutely not. But when we do run fire apparatus on ambulance calls, it's because we don't have enough ambulances in service.


Our ambulances are already at the hospital. We're transporting somebody else. So somebody dials 911 and ambulance is not available. A paramedic staffed and equipped fire truck, not the ladder truck, will go until an ambulance can free up from the hospital and respond Doe, Pick Up the Patient. But we cannot delay patient care, obviously, until an ambulance gets in service. So, on the other rare occasion, some advanced...


Rare? Pardon me? You said rare? On an occasion when, yes, rare for the ladder truck.


I'm not saying ladder. I'm saying an engine. I didn't say ladder. An engine will go when an ambulance is unavailable or, as I was saying, it's an advanced life Boyer, and thank you all for your attention.


As for the call for the call to advance life support call, full cardiac arrest, or bad trauma or something like that, two paramedics on an ambulance is not enough staffing, not enough manpower to address a critical, advanced life support call.


We make that determination based on the call type that comes in. We're very conservative of what calls we send the fire apparatus on because of the wear and tear, Manager, Boyer. Okay. If there's no more questions on revenue, let's move on to building. So would you be in favor of leaving it as it is or in not the general fund getting that 54%? Well, I see the merits both ways. Alderman Monroe is correct that by lessening the 54% contribution to the general fund, and John.


I think the general fund would put more demands on the general fund to pay for salaries and benefits. However, it would better position the city and the fire department, because the fire department is part of the city, for future acquisitions.


And when we replace this stuff, it's not because it's nice and and In a perfect world, it would be great to be able to amortize more of that money, to save it for future expenditures, and not have to go out and borrow money and pay interest rates for that kind of purchase.


But there's a limited amount of money that's available, so as elected officials, we have to use it, you have to determine to use it wisely.


All right, let's move on to 101, 142, 6155 that's government buildings. So as far as this is mostly expenses in 2020 on this first one 6155 in 2024 we spent about 135,000 fixing the windows so we could then replace the windows or put storm windows on this building. One of the biggest challenges here is keeping this place heated due to the fact that it's all electric and the older windows because the historic building it's pretty drafty and they're only single Payne. So next year we're hoping to put storm windows on that are acceptable to the historic building folks and so anyway moving on. We have contracted equipment repair and maintenance for essentially for $50,000 that's essentially more more just some budget put there in case we have any more issues with the PD building. We're looking at other options for another PD however at the current time we have to make what we have work until we are able to find and move into a new location so we've gone ahead and budgeted about $50,000 for that. Obviously we've got natural gas, building supplies, janitorial


and so forth, other and then we've got capital outlay and so that capital outlay there that $200,000 is for City Hall and the primary one being the storm Windows. Is the tuck point making it in this year or is that pushed off another year? We're gonna hold off on that one more year because I want to get, we just recently fixed, repainted, and cleaned all these windows on the outside. I want to get the storm windows put on so that's all preserved and doesn't flake off, you know, and peel and get weathered. So I want to kind of preserve that work. The tuck pointing is necessary. However, I think the windows are going to do two and a few things. It's going to preserve the work that we invested in this year. It's also going to lower some of our costs in terms of heat, so without the drafty windows.


All right. With that, I'd like to move on to the Cemetery Care Fund. This one's pretty straightforward.


We receive revenue in two forms in the Cemetery Care Fund. One is to grave and earn purchases and the other one is interest income.


So we're expecting about $9,200 in grave and earn purchases and that's just based on previous activity that could go up depending or down depending on the activity.


and then as far as expenses contracted building repair and maintenance currently we don't have anything planned for cemetery in terms of for major repairs out there we've replaced all of the roofs on all of the mausoleums that need to be replaced and the garage is doing okay so there's really nothing we need to worry about in that regard so any questions on cemetery care fund?


I do think it needs the fence that's facing Lincoln, it could get a nice paint job.


Okay, well I'm sure we can accommodate that. Creepy, yeah. Yeah, that's fine. I think it would look nice with a nice paint job or something.


Okay with that we can move on to Neighborhood Housing Fund. So Neighborhood Housing Fund Revenue side starting with $4125. So this is a local tax from property transfer tax of $2 per 500 of consideration when buying a property. So we're receiving about $210,000 in revenue there. And then interest income of about $15,000. And then fund balance transfer. So plan on using the remainder of this fund here on the Neighborhood Housing Fund. Pretty much all we use this for is not All, but primarily this is used for demolitions.


So if you see here in the expense items, about $20,000 for economic development projects, and $605,000 for demolitions.


The lion's share of that is for the planned demo of the union school. We're going to continue to look for grants on that.


But we're going to go ahead and budget that for next year. So tear it down?


Well, yes, it'll kind of come in two phases. One would be as best as remediation and then demo of the school.


So will any of this also be for some more homes and stuff coming down also or this is what Union School is going to cost. Sure. Wayne, did you have any comments on that?


On the neighborhood housing fund or any of these funds going to use for other demos?


Besides the Union School. Well, sure, yes. It could be used for other initiatives. But I mean, we're looking at some pretty hefty budget items.


So a typical house is going to cost anywhere from $15,000 to $20,000 to demolish.


And we're looking at right now anywhere from $2,000 to $250,000 to demolish the Union School.


So when we have money in the fund and we currently have we own the property staff thinks it's a good idea to have the money budgeted to demolish it because otherwise we're going to be preserving it I personally have I personally have walked through the building and I can tell you there's no hope for it being redeveloped and truly we should have the money budgeted here.


Would it be nice to get a grant? Yes. Is the city going to work towards grant funds to demolish it? Yes.


But I do think that the city should be prepared to demolish this structure. I know that this year we had that three hundred thousand for demos and then we also had what wasn't it some other money that came in that was going to be a grant or something so yeah so three hundred thousand dollars is a strong communities grant program that has to be residential housing so it has to be dilapidated actual residential properties the Union School is not going I just want to clarify, for that grant, because it's a former school, so anytime we're using the Strong Communities Grant Funds that's going to be for houses, duplexes, that's all that qualifies for that grant.


I'd just like to know about how much do we have left in that grant, from what we've done this year?


Probably end up with, when I, excuse me, when I end up requesting for a grant extension, there will probably end up being $50,000 not spent that I would be asking for an extension on, and that would be at the best case scenario.


Right now I have, by the end of the year, I anticipate spending all that money.


Okay. so unfortunately or fortunately how you look at it there's I have enough properties to put through that grant to use that money so just in residential vacant properties thank you and just my math on this shows that you take out the 250 that you're budgeting for demolition of the Union School that's still leaving Yes, that would leave the same amount for demolishing houses, but in addition we're also working on taking down the hotel as well on 20th, so there's some bigger items there that we would like to have that money set aside in case we can move forward with that demolition.


Another reason why it's beneficial for a community to purchase properties off the tax sale like Because we are a very big community with a very large community of workers that are working on the project.


But these families are very, very busy right now. They are very busy. We have a very small number of families that are in need of care.


But this is a very big community. And there's a very big problem with that.


And I just want to make sure that I get the general public and they don't have to see us.


But we are doing a very good job of getting everyone in. I'm going to ask the question to the board member.


Miller, Mayor, Mayor, Mayor, Mayor, Mayor We keep ending up with all these properties and having to pay to tear them down ourselves.


Why aren't we holding previous owners accountable for this and going after them? Sure. Well, I mean, at some point what ends up happening here is it's going after bad credit, right?


They just stop paying. So we do take them through their admin court. We do eventually, any of these properties that are being forced into demolition, they to get what's known as a chronic nuisance and they start accruing bad debt on them, okay?


So they know they own a bad property, they're receiving the violations, and eventually the city's saying, look, they're not fixing the property, they're not paying for it, it's a public nuisance, and that's the last step is to demolish it.


And we're saying, I'll answer that question. We do file a lien on the property and we do go to bill collections but if they're not paying, they're not paying.


It's a bad debt at some point, if that makes sense. So when we tear down the building, yes, there's a lien on that property.


But we just tore the person's property down, odds are they're not going to end up paying on that bad debt.


Follow-up. So this is a consistent problem that's been going on for many years and it's not just Fowler.


We have a lot of people who have worked with an individual bad debtor. It is actually the people before that.


Chicago Tribune, Chicago Sun-Times both ran articles about local landowners here in Freeport many years ago who were basically buying properties, running them into the ground, and then dumping them on people that couldn't afford it.


Those people knew that these properties were in this manner, and we continue to go ahead and do it.


and I think that's costing us over a period of ten years millions and millions of dollars.


And I think somebody needs to be held accountable for this and it needs to stop or we need to put an ordinance in place that says you know what, why are we letting them sell them is a million dollar question.


If I could just jump in on this one Alderman Monroe, we do occupy a special role which is we can go after and receive grant money that we can then go and acquire these properties, We're budgeting for this this year because we're budgeting for it. We own it. We want to get it down. However, we're going to look after all kinds of other ways to fund this that doesn't take money out of the city's back pocket.


But at the end of the day, if there's no other choice, then we've at least budgeted for it. So I just want you to know that right at the end of the day, we are the ones, we're basically the ones that end up getting stuck with these properties.


I think there's going to be a further conversation with other folks on this particular one, but it's not something I can really get into at this time.


But I will say we're going to pursue other opportunities to at minimum defray the city's expenses related to this.


So we will be pursuing those options. What do you mean, pursuing those options? I'll be happy to talk offline about it.


You know, whether it's going out and receiving grant funding to help us take these things down or opening up a conversation with other units of government, I think we'll be opening up those discussions, but we've got to budget for it if we want to get it down within the next year, and it's a huge nuisance, it provides safety concerns for the people in the community, and so we're going to seek as many other resources as possible, but in the meantime, at least we've got it budgeted, Begin the process of getting rid of it I think I speak for a lot of people in Freeport a huge nuisance is the second highest taxes in the in the country as far as property taxes go that's a huge nuisance and It's hurting our growth and our potential to grow back. That's six hundred five thousand dollars. I could have gone to something else Okay with that I'd like to move on to tourism fund So our revenue on this fund is hotel motel tax, approximately $280,000 and it earns about $5,000 a year in interest, so this is a local tax remitted to the City of Freeport, it's 5% on hotel stays, on the expense side about $248,000 goes to our Economic Development Agency, GFP and then we also have some miscellaneous and others.


So we've got the expenses related to some of the downtown events and then also we've got the transfer out to general fund to pay for the part of the communication directors salary.


Any questions on the Tourism Fund? No. Okay. All right with that let's move to debt service fund. So in this particular fund we're transferring in funds from the General Fund to pay for our debt service. So we'll be bringing in about 3.4 million dollars for the 2016 City Hall, and 2020 Pension Bonds to support the payment of those. Also transferring in $120,000 to pay for the 2015A bond, which is library, and then the transfer in for streets, which is $477,000. That's for the payment on bonds 2019A and 2021. Both of those funded street repairs in the city and they are paid for with the $2 that you pay in your water bill. Transfer in for the TIF, you got $112,000 that's paying for the 2018 and 2015A bonds and then transfer in from the Fire Improvement Fund that's $340,000 that pays for 2013A that's the Central Fire Station and the 2022 aerial fire truck so and I'm kind of


I'm going to repeat myself here through the expenses, but you've got two million going for the City Hall Bond, 270,000 going to the Fire Improvement Fund. That's, as I mentioned, for the Fire Improvement Fund.


that's as I mentioned for the fire truck, 88,000 going to the library to pay for the library bond, 365,000 going for the street bond, 81,000 for TIF principal, then we've got interest of 1.4 million for City Hall, 70 for Fire Improvement Library, 31,000, Streets is 112, and TIFF is 31,000. So any questions on that?


Alderman Sellers. Yes, I'd like to know how many bonds you got for the library?


I'm sorry. How many bonds do you have for the library? Michelle, could you make sure, could you go ahead?


We just have one, and it's the 2015 A1. It's pretty old. It's just a small portion of that bond. It's still paying for the library.


So what you're seeing there is the principal and interest payments. They appear separately, but it's so you can tell the difference, how much we're paying for principal, how much we're paying for interest.


Okay. So the interest was the 88? 8080. Excuse me, Alderperson, Stacy, could you please pull your microphone down? That helps with the people that are here, the people that aren't here, and then we type the minutes from that. So please remember to speak into the microphone. Sorry. I was asking if the and I, and the 88,800 was interest from the 2015 bond.


No, that is principal. Principal. And so where's the interest? It's item 8075. The 31?


31,000, yes. It's interest alone. Yep. with that I'd like to move on to the health care fund so this fund manages the health care expenses for the city employees and retirees we anticipate a 1.8 percent increase in medical insurance expense and 6.8 in dental insurance so the revenue comes in through individual contributions about about 471,000, also various, you've got the police and fire contributions of various levels and AFSCME, then you've got employer share, so the employees contribute 2.3 million, and then the retirees contribute 192,000, so your total revenue there is 3.1 million, then your Your expenses going out, you've got Voluntary Life Premium, $7,600, Vision, $4,500, Retiree Premium is $305,000, and then $2.8 for Employee Premiums.


Any questions on the Health Care Fund? Okay with that I'd like to move on to the Landfill Closure Fund. This is one of the requests from our auditor is we need to start contributing. Right now it shows as a debt basically and we're trying to contribute every year to fully fund that Landfill Closure Fund. It's not something we can do all at once but we are taking steps to make sure that those funds are there when we need them.


off into the future when the landfill actually closes. So on the revenue side we are transfer, the transfer station rents about $29,000 so that's the money we receive from Gills to run the transfer station and then we've got a solar lease we'll be receiving about $11,000 from Amoresco or whoever the eventual owner will be there. Then we get another $30,000 interest and then we also also transferred another $500,000 from General Fund and then on the expense side, so Contracted Infrastructure Repair and Maintenance about $150,000.


This is basically to maintain the IEPA requirements and then we've got the Landfill Closure Expense so this is for monitoring the landfill itself.


So any questions on Landfill Closure Fund? Just the solar lease again. So earlier this year, we've been moving forward with installing solar panels on the landfill cap of Landfill 2 and 3.


And as part of that agreement, we receive not only the maintenance, we will no longer have to maintain the mowing in that on Landfill 2 and 3, but this is also an outright payment annually that we'll receive from Amoresco for the use of that property.


Did I get that right? any other questions all right with that I'd like to move on to health and environmental funds this is a garbage collection so the 14,500 is Gills reimbursement for property taxes on the transfer station also we receive 2.6 6 million in recycling fees and waste collection fees, we get about $25,000 in income and the fund balance transfer is about $360,000 so this is $300 is to fund a special bulky waste pickup and $25,000 that was one of the things that we talked about as far as being able to help keep people from dumping in town so we're budgeting for about $300,000 to have the ability to set dumpsters out and have folks fill them up.


Bad debt expense, about $20,000. Disposal and recycling, we're kicking out about $2.9. And then real estate and revenue collection services are about $30,000.


Any questions on garbage collection? Alderman Sowers. Yes, Rob, I guess you kind of, when you were talking, your voice started high and then it was really low and I couldn't hear what the end of the fund balance, you said something about recycle dumpsters, helping stop dumping and dumpsters, I didn't hear that story.


We're budgeting $300,000 for bulky Waste Pickup for 2025. So it's just a measure that, you know, we talked about trash busters and that type of thing.


Oh, OK. I don't know. It's not exactly trash busters, but it's something along the lines that'll help keep our streets cleaner.


Yeah. Thank you. Any other questions on the garbage? All right and we're down to our last one for tonight. Downtown Loan Fund. So the Downtown Loan Fund, we receive about five thousand in interest and the fund balance transfer is about forty thousand. Right now Mahoney is repaying on a of Downtown, Lone. So that's essentially where we're at with that one. Other than that, are there any questions? Okay. Any further discussion? Seeing none, we have public comments if there's any on seeing none I take a motion for adjournment motion by My partner seconded by Sellers. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed?