WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:12.000 That's fine. All right, being 531, we'll call to order the Finance Committee of the Whole meeting. 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:18.080 Mayor Miller? Here. Alderpersons, Klemm? Here. 00:00:18.080 --> 00:00:21.679 Johnson? Here. Simmons is absent. Parker? Here. 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:27.120 Stacy? I thought I saw her. Yep. Shadle? Here. 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:31.920 Sanders, and Sellers is absent, but we have a quorum, Chair. 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:36.320 Very good. If you could join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, please. 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:51.920 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:57.120 --> 00:01:03.120 Thank you and we're looking for item four, approval of the agenda. 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:04.120 So moved. 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:05.120 Second. 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:09.120 Motion by Parker, second by Klemm. 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:12.120 If we can have all in favor. 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:13.120 Aye. 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:14.120 Aye. 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:15.120 And opposed. 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:18.120 That motion carries. 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:24.120 And item five, there's a misprint on the agenda. 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:32.680 Dio, the September 9th date should be September 8th, and I understand the error was on the 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:39.520 minutes themselves also, so that would need to be corrected, okay. 00:01:39.520 --> 00:01:46.200 With those corrections in mind, we have a motion for approval of the minutes. 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:47.200 So moved. 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:48.200 Second. 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:52.360 Motion by Parker, second by Johnson, if we have all in favor. 00:01:52.360 --> 00:01:53.360 Aye. 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:59.760 Opposed? That motion carries. Do we have any public comments? 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:03.120 There were none signed in a minute ago. 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:03.620 Okay. 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:05.760 You don't have to. 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:10.960 No. Okay. And then we move on to discussion of the following budgets. City Manager, 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:18.560 Boyer, and Director, Reeder, General Fund Police, Capital Equipment Fund Police, Drug Forfeiture, 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:26.960 Fire, General Fund Fire Public Safety, Fire Improvement, Hornfire, TIF Budgets, Projects, 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.759 Fund Budget, and Downtown Loan. 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:30.759 Manager Boyer. 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:32.920 Thank you Alderman Shadle. 00:02:32.920 --> 00:02:39.480 So tonight we're going to start out with the Police General Fund Budget. 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:55.120 Just a few items to note. 101-151-5000, non-bargaining wages. There is an increase of $70,300 over 00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:09.439 the 2025 budget. 101-151-5010, ASME wages. There appears there to be a decrease in the 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:14.039 and the 25 budget and we have rechecked our numbers and had employees with higher 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:19.400 longevity move out of the PD to another department and new employees begin at a 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:27.400 lower rate so that's the that accounts for the reduction there. 101 151 5015 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:36.400 police wages there's an increase of 261 155 over the 2025 budget agreement 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:44.400 There's no additional staff here, so this essentially is related to the negotiations, the outcome of the police negotiations. 00:03:44.400 --> 00:04:05.400 Then we have 101-151-5220 health insurance. There's an increase of 166,915. We are working to contain this as best we can, but this is related to the health insurance expectation here for the 26 fiscal years. 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:15.080 6, Fiscal Year, 101-151-5255, Police Pension Contribution, the annual commitment to the 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:20.879 police pension, the amount is determined by our actuary, and this is in addition to our 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:31.519 annual bond payments, however, there is funds set aside for the police and fire pensions. 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:41.519 101-151-6040 Animal Supplies. We now have two canine officers, so there are some additional expenses there. 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:51.519 101-151-6150 Consulting Services. So we had an increase of 15,000 from 2025. 00:04:51.519 --> 00:05:00.120 Our OVW grant, the Violence Against Women grant for the PD will need to be reapplied 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:08.079 for in 26 and we used a consultant to complete the forms so the OVW grant is a three year 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.519 cycle so it's coming up this year. 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:19.799 1011516155 contracted building repair and maintenance, there's an increase of $15,000 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:29.560 for remodel of the dispatcher kitchen included in the budget this year, 1011517010, machinery 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:34.560 and equipment over a thousand, we're budgeting five thousand for additional surveillance 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:40.960 cameras, five thousand for a new water fountain, ten thousand for an equipment shed, ten thousand 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:56.199 for awning replacement, 12,000 for two speed signs, and 14,500 for 10 additional body cameras. 00:05:56.199 --> 00:06:02.519 So the Police Capital Equipment Fund, moving to the next one here. 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:09.359 So as you see on the slide, the items we purchased include radios for the squads, portable radios, 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:16.360 Four squads with radio and DVRs and one golf cart, being that we use that for events and the one we have is broken. 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:25.920 Any questions on that? 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:27.120 Can I go back to... 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:28.759 Sure, I'm sorry, should I give you a chance? 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:35.759 Departmental gear, sixty-two ten, I believe, it's the last one on the second page. 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:48.639 Just one on the second page. We were at 24 budget, 20,000, and we used 18-6 out of that. 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:55.639 This year we budgeted 8, and we're to date at the 18-6, and then we budgeted next year 00:06:55.639 --> 00:07:02.560 again 8. Chief, is that a reimbursement? No, I think 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:07.560 But the reason for that is because this year we did hire quite a few people. 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:11.759 We don't anticipate having to do that as much next year, so that's why we kind of kept it 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:12.759 the same. 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:15.759 That fund is hired to hear for a new hire. 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:16.759 Correct. 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:17.759 Yeah. 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:18.759 Okay. 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:19.759 Thank you. 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:20.759 Yes? 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:22.840 Quick question, Chief. 00:07:22.840 --> 00:07:28.480 On the cameras and that kind of stuff, does that have anything at all to do with what 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:58.480 We did add 10 body worn cameras. I mean, like I said before last week, my feeling is that the appropriations, everything's going to be fine. However, if not, we, I asked our talk to the finance director and said we still need body cams minimum of 10. So if that falls through, at least we can get those 10. However, if we get the appropriations, we won't use the 10. 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:02.720 and the budget. We're just budgeting to be on the safe side for that. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:12.400 Okay. And we just discussed the Capital Equipment Fund. Any questions on that? 00:08:14.400 --> 00:08:20.960 Just to itemize those things mentioned there. Okay, the next one is Drug Forfeiture Fund. 00:08:20.960 --> 00:08:28.760 D. So this fund is controlled by the PD as there's a specific use of drug forfeiture 00:08:28.760 --> 00:08:29.760 funds. 00:08:29.760 --> 00:08:38.360 The budget is the same amount as last year, so no changes there. 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:43.440 Now we'll move into the fire general fund budget. 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:53.520 So we'll start with 101, 152-5000 and 50-20 non-bargaining and fire wages. Both line items 00:08:53.520 --> 00:08:58.720 increased by cost of living and in the case of the fire bargaining they've included longevity 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:08.440 and educational increases. Then on 101, 152-5140 overtime for fire is projecting a decrease 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:18.320 to overtime expenses. 101-152-5220 health insurance. $150,000 increase is anticipated. 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:24.880 Again, we're working on the overall package for the city, so we'll do our best to keep 00:09:24.880 --> 00:09:33.780 that to a minimum. 101-152-5260 fire pension contribution, same as the police contribution 00:09:33.779 --> 00:09:38.659 Works. This is our annual contribution. In addition, we pay the annual bond payments for 00:09:38.659 --> 00:09:47.179 the pension obligation bonds. And the remainder of the budget is very similar to 2025. So keeping 00:09:47.179 --> 00:09:59.679 things pretty level. Any questions on the Fire General Fund budget? Okay. We'll move 00:09:59.680 --> 00:10:00.180 Bondas. 00:10:00.180 --> 00:10:15.180 We'll move on to the Fire Public Safety Fund. This budget receives donations to alleviate the cost of public education materials used during Fire Prevention Month in the public schools, so no significant changes there. 00:10:17.180 --> 00:10:19.180 Any questions on that? 00:10:19.180 --> 00:10:23.180 and others. 00:10:23.180 --> 00:10:27.180 Then we have the, sorry about that Kurt, 00:10:27.180 --> 00:10:31.180 the Fire Public Safety Fund, I'm sorry, 00:10:31.180 --> 00:10:35.180 the Fire Improvement Fund. The City uses these funds to account for 00:10:35.180 --> 00:10:39.180 ambulance revenues and capital purchases per ordinance 00:10:39.180 --> 00:10:43.180 yearly transfers made to the general fund of 54% 00:10:43.180 --> 00:10:47.180 of the revenues, not including collection or administrative 00:10:47.180 --> 00:10:54.060 Fries, so the revenues include ambulance service, projections are in line with the 00:10:54.060 --> 00:11:03.980 prior years, accident, fire and extraction, lift assistance fee, ALS upgrades, GEMT 00:11:03.980 --> 00:11:10.200 revenue, collections, interest, and use of prior fund balance, so those are your 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:14.820 revenue side, and then expenses, the next two slides contain the detailed 00:11:14.820 --> 00:11:29.500 and I think we have some other information on the funding expenses so yes. That 54% that goes to the city where is it being put? It goes back into the general fund. 00:11:29.500 --> 00:11:33.500 and 00:11:33.500 --> 00:11:37.500 Tom. 00:11:37.500 --> 00:11:41.500 Anyway, on the capital budget, we've got 00:11:41.500 --> 00:11:45.500 what you're looking at there is 00:11:45.500 --> 00:11:49.500 all the different revenue items that we receive 00:11:49.500 --> 00:11:53.500 annually. So that's staying in 00:11:53.500 --> 00:11:57.500 line with 2025. 00:11:57.500 --> 00:12:03.500 and then in terms of expenditures, this represents the expenditures. 00:12:10.500 --> 00:12:16.500 A couple items, Chief, did you want to itemize or call out any of the notables here? 00:12:16.500 --> 00:12:24.500 Sure. So, if you look at second row from the top, central station window replacement, 00:12:24.500 --> 00:12:54.500 We're projecting about $400,000, Fehr Graham, put together some vendors to come out and take a look at it, and that's about where we projected that to be, but that was earlier in the year, so we would not be surprised if there was some fluctuation to that, so an example, about 8 years ago when I was here previously, we identified that that was a need back then, and those costs came 00:12:54.500 --> 00:12:57.220 and about 141,000. 00:12:57.220 --> 00:13:01.380 So putting it off and putting it off and delaying it eight 00:13:01.380 --> 00:13:03.500 years, we're now at 400,000. 00:13:03.500 --> 00:13:08.580 So we can expect that trend to continue 00:13:08.580 --> 00:13:10.820 if we keep putting things off. 00:13:10.820 --> 00:13:15.820 So that building, those windows we feel are from the 1970s. 00:13:15.820 --> 00:13:19.880 The building itself is about 84 years old. 00:13:19.880 --> 00:13:21.700 We have a variety of windows that 00:13:21.700 --> 00:13:24.420 need to be replaced in the weight room. 00:13:24.420 --> 00:13:29.060 there's a broken one that's been broken for a long time and it leaks rain if you 00:13:29.060 --> 00:13:34.140 get a north rain from the north into the building it leaks on the floor we've 00:13:34.140 --> 00:13:38.940 even opened the walls to see where this is coming from we're not able to 00:13:38.940 --> 00:13:44.040 identify exactly where it's coming from upstairs this past year one of our 00:13:44.040 --> 00:13:49.060 firefighters almost lost the tip of it one of his fingers the window came down 00:13:49.060 --> 00:13:53.820 a guillotine sheared off the tip of his finger he was off for a short period of 00:13:53.820 --> 00:14:01.080 and John. And then we have other windows that are intended to be open for ventilation. They 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:08.020 won't open. They're stuck closed. So it's something that should be done or at least considered 00:14:08.020 --> 00:14:14.620 even if it goes out to bid over a period of two years. In that bid spec, we should indicate 00:14:14.620 --> 00:14:19.860 that the same windows should be used over the course of that two-year period. The same 00:14:19.860 --> 00:14:49.860 Contractor the same vendors should be all the people should be the same from year one to year two Thank you chief yeah and then one other thing if I may if we look at 7010 firefighter turnout gear we've been carrying hundred thousand dollars in that specific line item for two years waiting for PFAS free firefighter gear right now it does not exist so we're not going to expend those monies in 00:14:49.860 --> 00:14:55.860 Tell, the industry comes up with a safe turnout gear. We 00:14:55.860 --> 00:15:00.180 anticipate, we hope that it will be available sometime in 2026, 00:15:00.180 --> 00:15:04.900 but we know if a vendor, there is a handful of turnout gear 00:15:04.900 --> 00:15:09.259 vendors, none of them can produce this garment. But we recognize 00:15:09.259 --> 00:15:12.500 that the first vendor that does is going to take advantage of 00:15:12.500 --> 00:15:15.620 that technology breakthrough and the prices are going to go way 00:15:15.620 --> 00:15:24.980 We've proposed to increase that by another $50,000 and have that available if that turnout 00:15:24.980 --> 00:15:28.300 gear becomes available. 00:15:28.300 --> 00:15:32.780 By NFPA standard, turnout gear needs to be replaced every 10 years and I think right 00:15:32.780 --> 00:15:37.700 now we're somewhere between 6 and 7 years in our current gear. 00:15:37.700 --> 00:15:45.140 So by the time gear is developed, we start replacing our existing stuff with PFAS-free 00:15:45.140 --> 00:15:49.539 and many other things, then we'll be on track and we'll have some money for a good start 00:15:49.539 --> 00:15:53.660 at that desire to change out the gear. 00:15:53.660 --> 00:15:54.660 Okay. 00:15:54.660 --> 00:15:57.660 Thank you, Chief. 00:15:57.660 --> 00:16:03.539 I have one question, Chief. 00:16:03.539 --> 00:16:08.340 Where is this central station located? 00:16:08.340 --> 00:16:11.740 It's across from Slumberland at Walnut and South. 00:16:11.740 --> 00:16:13.320 Oh, that one. 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:14.320 That one, yes. 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:22.320 is that an estimated cost for for budgeting for next year? I'll defer to Darren. Is that about 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:28.000 what it came in when we did that early in the season? Yeah we actually had a reputable window 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:33.200 company come out and we went around the building with them so there might be a little cushion there 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:38.080 but it's pretty close and everything that Chief stated about the current windows is absolutely 00:17:08.080 --> 00:17:38.080 A few of them that are extraordinarily large, cutting them back and putting in, they call them fill spacers, putting in a couple fill spacers in some of the big windows to try to keep some of the costs down, but you have to remember, when you're dealing with any of these stations, and this has been something that, you know, we've been having to deal with a lot more, anytime the city's involved, there's prevailing wage standards, and this would qualify as prevailing wage, which drives the cost up significantly. 00:17:38.080 --> 00:17:56.080 Alright, with that I'd like to go on to the Foreign Fire Fund. So the Foreign Fire Fund 00:17:56.080 --> 00:18:01.680 has its own board that determines how the funds are spent. The fund itself is treated 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:06.160 as a fiduciary fund on the city's books. We track the inflow and outflow of dollars, but 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:10.360 the Board makes the decisions on the actual expenses. 00:18:10.360 --> 00:18:14.600 So what are foreign fire funds and where do we, where do they come from? 00:18:14.600 --> 00:18:19.080 By state statute all insurance companies not incorporated under the laws of the state of 00:18:19.080 --> 00:18:24.200 Illinois provide fire insurance for property situated within an Illinois municipality that 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:30.240 maintains a fire department, must remit 2% of the fire portion of the insurance policy 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:31.519 premium. 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:36.720 The fee must be used for the maintenance and use and benefit of the fire department. 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:43.200 So essentially what you have here is a very similar budget, it ebbs and flows, but we've 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:53.360 budgeted about $21,000, I'm sorry, about $83,000 for 2026. 00:18:53.360 --> 00:18:55.559 Any questions on the foreign fire fund? 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:56.559 Yeah. 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.160 How is that generated? 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:01.800 How do we generate that fund? 00:19:01.800 --> 00:19:10.920 By Illinois State's statute, the insurance companies basically provide 2% to this account 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:11.920 each year. 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:12.920 Is that it? 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:13.920 Yes. 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:14.920 It comes from insurance companies. 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:15.920 Oh, okay. 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:25.440 I like to look into that a little bit more so I can see how that is done. 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:27.440 I'm sure Chief can help you out with that anytime. 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:57.440 So to answer your question, how that is generated is, let's say we have several buildings that have insurance, meaning homeowner's insurance, business insurance, or whatever, and they elect to insure through companies that are not local, they're not residing in Illinois, so if they choose to go to Wisconsin, or Iowa, or California, wherever, 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.119 Miller, those companies by a state state. 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:05.439 Those companies by a state statute have to give the fire departments and that's just not Freeport 00:20:05.439 --> 00:20:13.919 That's all Illinois Fire Departments two percent of their their proceeds and like the manager indicated this the statute states very 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:18.279 specifically decided for the use and benefit of the fire department and 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.479 And how that is managed by the board that the members elect and put in there 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:29.159 And then that's used to supplement budget items for tools and equipment things like that 00:20:29.159 --> 00:20:59.159 So it's a great benefit to the city to reduce some of those operating costs Getting into the TIFs, downtown TIFs, so these expenses include bank fees for downtown loan bond of $700, professional services that include attorney fees, Greater Freeport Partnership, Illinois Tax Increment Association dues, site improvement, and that goes to facades, proposed increases in the amount 00:20:59.159 --> 00:21:05.559 Brown, available to $100,000, so we're looking at an increase to the Facade Improvement Grant. 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:10.839 Current redevelopment agreements, so currently we have Hampton Inn, Merritt Crane, and additional 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:14.439 funds for new redevelopment agreements there. 00:21:14.439 --> 00:21:19.959 And then transfer to debt service from principal and interest, so that's the 2015A bond and 00:21:19.959 --> 00:21:22.000 the 2018 bond. 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.479 I believe those were those demos. 00:21:26.479 --> 00:21:33.799 One of them is for the demolition of the old bookstore that was downtown on Stevenson and 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:38.359 the other one is a portion that was split between different funds. 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:42.399 So there's two different bonds there, one is demolition and one was for a variety of 00:21:42.399 --> 00:21:45.399 different services. 00:21:45.399 --> 00:21:46.399 Thank you, Wayne. 00:21:46.399 --> 00:21:47.399 Yes? 00:21:47.399 --> 00:21:52.839 What is the site improvement? 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:55.239 Is that for, what is it, what's the number there on site improvement? 00:21:55.239 --> 00:22:01.759 I don't get me that far so that would be Wayne you can go ahead and answer that if 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:06.339 you yeah sure so under site improvement here we have a your current 00:22:06.339 --> 00:22:12.579 redevelopment agreements that we just spoke just spoken to you also have your 00:22:12.579 --> 00:22:17.339 facade grant improvement program that's a hundred thousand dollars and then 00:22:17.339 --> 00:22:24.059 another thing to also look at in site improvement this is the downtown tip fund 00:22:24.059 --> 00:22:30.459 there's we're budgeting for any other potential site improvements so that could 00:22:30.459 --> 00:22:34.899 be if you know it comes back to a project where potentially you know we're 00:22:34.899 --> 00:22:39.379 talking about budgeting so if we have money budgeted for site improvement 00:22:39.379 --> 00:22:45.359 somebody may come down the line and say look we have a a public parking lot we 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:48.779 have a project proposed that would be for the public good within the TIF 00:22:48.779 --> 00:23:18.779 Fowler, 00:23:18.779 --> 00:23:27.299 to use it for. What current redevelopment agreements do we have? In this downtown TIF 00:23:27.299 --> 00:23:33.739 district you have the Hampton, the hotel, then you also have the Merritt Crane 00:23:33.739 --> 00:23:38.819 which came to council this year. They're building their another storage facility 00:23:38.819 --> 00:23:44.219 and then the other one I have on here. Crane? Yes, that was I believe three 00:23:44.219 --> 00:23:47.519 months ago, four months ago. Do you remember Alderperson Shadle because I 00:23:47.519 --> 00:24:01.519 I'm saying two or three months ago they came in. They're a crane rental business. They came in and they're going to build a storage facility for some of their equipment. 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:06.519 So that's what I have for the downtown redevelopment agreements currently. 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:07.519 Two. 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:15.519 Yep. That is correct. 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:19.879 OK, with that, I'd like to move on to the Lamb Road TIF. 00:24:19.879 --> 00:24:24.679 So we have some expenses that are related to attorney fees. 00:24:24.679 --> 00:24:28.319 Again, GFP gets their revenue, or a good portion 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:30.079 of their revenue through the TIFs. 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:34.559 And Illinois Tax Increment Association does. 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.539 Site improvements include we have a redevelopment agreement 00:24:37.539 --> 00:24:44.239 with TriStar and a remainder for miscellaneous repairs and demos. 00:24:44.239 --> 00:24:45.960 and what, I'm sorry. 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.119 The remainder of the site improvements 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:50.719 would include miscellaneous repairs and demos, 00:24:50.719 --> 00:24:55.519 but we are working on the lift station as a major improvement. 00:24:55.519 --> 00:25:00.239 So tax distribution funds go back to the other taxing bodies. 00:25:00.239 --> 00:25:03.000 So there is some amount of the generated increment 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:05.039 that goes back to the taxing bodies 00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:08.199 as the original agreement specified. 00:25:08.199 --> 00:25:12.399 And then again, as I mentioned, the transfer to sewer 00:25:12.399 --> 00:25:21.039 to fund the Walnut Lift Station, so we're projecting the current project to use about half of the approved funds in 2025 and the other half in 2026. 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:27.440 What miscellaneous do we have out there? You said tri-star and miscellaneous. What's miscellaneous? 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:31.039 I have to defer to the Finance Director on that one. Is there anything? 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:34.239 Excuse me. Who's deferring to the Finance Director? 00:25:34.239 --> 00:25:48.239 I'm sorry, Rob. Sometimes it's muffled. I mean, I don't know if you're too close to the mic or not close enough. I just, I could not understand what you were saying. 00:25:48.239 --> 00:26:03.239 So, the miscellaneous part. So, even though we have one line for site improvement there, we have a list. You know, it could be all the redevelopment agreements and that kind of thing. 00:26:03.239 --> 00:26:04.559 and that kind of thing. 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:08.759 So we have the 100,000 could be miscellaneous repairs 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.079 or demos, or it could be new RDAs, 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.639 just how Wayne was speaking about, 00:26:13.639 --> 00:26:17.739 so if someone comes to us with a project 00:26:17.739 --> 00:26:20.319 that we would have funds there available. 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:23.719 If I wanted a copy of that list, is that possible? 00:26:23.719 --> 00:26:24.559 Yeah. 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:28.079 Another thing while we're at that, 00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:49.079 Considering what miscellaneous is, that's a broad brush. When you throw that in there without a description, a definitive description and a breakdown of what miscellaneous is, and what is it for? What is it projected for? 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:57.079 and so if we're not understanding why we're paying out on a miscellaneous and have no description to it, 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:01.079 why are we investing into something that we don't have a clue about? 00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:04.079 Is that what you just answered? 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.079 No, she didn't just answer that. 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:09.079 She just answered what the miscellaneous funds were. 00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:12.079 I'm asking something different. 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:14.079 It sure didn't sound like it. 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.079 Well, then you should open your ears, clean them out, wash them out or do something 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:26.440 because what I'm trying to get to, I'm listening for the description of what miscellaneous estimation 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.319 cost is going to be. What are we having a miscellaneous on? 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:36.119 If I could just interrupt, if it's the Council. No, you can't interrupt, Rob. I'm talking. 00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.000 I'm talking to... He's trying to answer the question. 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:43.039 No, no. I'm talking to... You need to be quiet. That's what you need to do. 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:44.839 Well, sir, I'm the Chair. I don't care who you think you are. 00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:49.239 and I said he's trying to answer your questions. I don't care who you think you may be. Could 00:27:49.239 --> 00:27:53.279 we have order please? Yeah, when you shut your mouth, you should shut your mouth first. 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:59.879 Can I ask that the individual be reprimanded here? No, no, you can't, you can't do nothing. 00:27:59.879 --> 00:28:04.919 You can't recommend anything. He is the Chair of this committee, so he runs this meeting. 00:28:04.919 --> 00:28:13.279 Well, my point is he can't just conduct this meeting as he so pleases. You know, I have 00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:19.759 and I'm on the floor and he's trying to get you your answer look no I didn't ask 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:25.279 him okay you you need to stay out of this particular argument as well okay this is 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:32.039 inappropriate and you need to stop well my point is my point is this the charade 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:37.799 of not getting my question answered I want to know a definitive answer of 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.359 Schultz, Mark, and Candace,oprah, of the miscellaneous material stuff being purchased 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:49.359 by dollars, I need to understand what miscellaneous is and I want it to be broken down is what 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.299 I am getting at. 00:28:51.299 --> 00:28:52.900 That's your question. 00:28:52.900 --> 00:28:56.000 Michelle, can you repeat your answer for him? 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.980 Yeah, I'll do my best here. 00:28:58.980 --> 00:29:01.380 Alright, can I start by saying this? 00:29:01.380 --> 00:29:03.019 You guys are a joke, come on. 00:29:03.019 --> 00:29:07.779 You need to be, you need to be quiet and let them answer. 00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:14.980 you need to stop talking to me we're going to discuss having him removed this is this is disorderly so 00:29:14.980 --> 00:29:19.859 please allow the discussion to happen for a director duckman to answer your question without 00:29:20.500 --> 00:29:27.139 feedback away from the microphone sure all right so we're talking about budgeting 00:29:27.699 --> 00:29:34.099 and in budgeting we have to have items um to represent where money could be spent so when we 00:29:34.099 --> 00:29:40.139 come, what ends up happening is, which is a good thing for the city, there would be a 00:29:40.139 --> 00:29:44.339 developer that would come and they would be within the Land Road TIF district. 00:29:44.339 --> 00:29:50.859 They want to build a Culver's or a McDonald's, let's just go with a McDonald's by Menards, 00:29:50.859 --> 00:29:51.859 right? 00:29:51.859 --> 00:29:55.859 And they are going to come to me and then they would say, well, we want to do a redevelopment 00:29:55.859 --> 00:29:57.539 agreement. 00:29:57.539 --> 00:30:00.980 of that we would have to demolish. 00:30:00.980 --> 00:30:07.299 We would have to demolish an existing building here that's older. I'm just, you know, there's a little mini mall out there 00:30:07.299 --> 00:30:12.019 They want to demolish that mini mall and they would say well, is that TIF eligible? 00:30:12.099 --> 00:30:17.059 Do you have money, you know, for this redevelopment agreement? And then I would say 00:30:17.700 --> 00:30:22.259 You know, I would go over with Attorney Zito just because it's proper protocol 00:30:22.259 --> 00:30:26.400 There's laws that you want to go over a redevelopment agreement to make sure that when I come to 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:02.599 Johnson, the potential of maybe it's landscaping which would fall under miscellaneous, there's 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:08.440 site repairs that could be done, and maybe, you know, and I apologize if we're not more 00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:15.120 clear but I believe what we are trying to say is there is no actual $100,000 right now 00:31:15.120 --> 00:31:22.400 that is committed, there's no committed funds right now in that for miscellaneous, but there 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:52.400 Miller, Mayor, 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:58.039 when we when we go forward if we decide to go that route with it but the point 00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:02.360 that I'm trying to make is clarification interpretation of what this 00:32:02.360 --> 00:32:07.160 miscellaneous item is or whatever the project is or whatever the case is it 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.440 has to have more definitive clarity with it so we can have a good visual 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:17.000 especially a good insight visual of what you were referring to and that gives us 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:22.840 that gives us a good viewpoint of what it's all about. I understand and thank 00:32:22.840 --> 00:32:32.480 you I do. I would like to make a motion that we stop with the budget at this 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.400 level because I don't want to just run through these other tips I want to 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:43.279 understand them it's already after six so I'm making a motion that we stop with 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:56.039 I second it. I second it. After this diff and pick up here next Monday. I second it. 00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:08.480 Attorney Zito? Attorney Zito, yes. Is that adjourned then? Yes. Okay. We have 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:19.519 discussion on that I just wondered if was a clarification to return to it after 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:31.700 the meeting is over or just return to it next time or what all right so it's not 00:33:31.700 --> 00:33:37.039 a for a motion to recess until after tonight's City Council meeting she's 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:41.039 is actually asking to adjourn and then it would just be picked up at the next 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:53.000 finance cow you that's available yes there there is no scheduled meeting for 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.960 next Monday it would be a special meeting on a night that there is no 00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.799 Mitchell, Wayne Brunson, and Tim, Michael, and I, and I'm going to call it the first 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:00.799 meeting, as well. 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:02.279 I'm going to make an annual meeting just pointing that out. 00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:03.279 The first of October? 00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:04.680 The first Monday in October. 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:10.019 Yeah, the next the next meeting, the next finance meeting that we will pick up from 00:34:10.019 --> 00:34:11.019 here. 00:34:11.019 --> 00:34:12.019 Okay. 00:34:12.019 --> 00:34:13.300 Manager Boyer, do you have any input on that? 00:34:13.300 --> 00:34:15.679 Do we have time for that? 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:21.340 My only my only input on it would be, you know, I am available to ask, you know, more detailed 00:34:21.340 --> 00:34:24.199 questions about a question related to the budget, right? 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.920 I mean tonight we're reviewing the budget and kind of we're standing here reviewing 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:34.460 the budget and anyone who has questions over the budget should get with me and we 00:34:34.460 --> 00:34:39.039 can discuss that but this isn't the time to learn how the TIF works this is the 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:48.599 time to go over the budget so that's my only comment Madam Clerk you take the 00:34:48.599 --> 00:35:13.400 Clem, Johnson, Simmons, Parker, Stacy, Shadle, Sanders, the motion passes 4-3, I'm sorry, 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:23.800 the motion fails it failed I said the numbers wrong though three to four okay 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:37.239 manager thank you so we're moving on to the West Avenue TIF so we have the again 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.800 the expenses related to attorneys fees GFP the Illinois Tax Recruitment 00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:44.559 Association. 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:48.119 Site improvements would include new RDAs 00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:50.679 that we would need to budget for today 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.239 that we may not realize that will come up 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:57.079 throughout the year, as Director Duckman pointed out. 00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.199 And then also miscellaneous repairs. 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:03.639 In addition to that, tax disbursement funds 00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.039 go back to other taxing bodies, meaning 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:10.079 there's a portion that's shared back with those taxing bodies. 00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:41.800 Alderman, Stacy. New RDA's. What's RDA's? I'm sorry that's a redevelopment agreement. Do we have any redevelopment agreements currently? I believe we do but I'm not I don't know if we have one in the West Avenue TIF district but as I just said the downtown had two of them Lamb Road has two of them we do have existing redevelopment agreements. 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:50.199 Okay, with that I'll move on to the Berchard Avenue TIF. Expenses include, again, same 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:56.559 as before, attorney's fees, GFP, Illinois Tax Increment Association dues, site improvements 00:36:56.559 --> 00:37:04.079 with redevelopment agreement with FHN, other RDAs and miscellaneous repairs. So again, 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:10.860 last one, your tax disbursement funds go back to the other taxing bodies. Any questions 00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:17.659 on the Burchard Tiff. 00:37:17.659 --> 00:37:22.280 Moving on, the Meadows Tiff, so the expenses include the same as mentioned before, Attorneys 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:31.579 for DFP and the Illinois Tax Increment Association dues, RDAs include Culver's, Kendall and Grace, 00:37:31.579 --> 00:37:38.059 the Meadows Mall, and then other RDAs and miscellaneous repairs. 00:37:38.059 --> 00:37:44.840 with the tax disbursement funds, also go back to the other taxing bodies principle, RDA 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:46.280 with JJ Ventures. 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:52.539 This is one that was set up in a little different way than the others and our auditors require 00:37:52.539 --> 00:37:56.220 the payments to be made from this expense line item. 00:37:56.220 --> 00:38:00.099 So this was, I believe, one of the JJ Ventures agreement. 00:38:00.099 --> 00:38:01.099 That is a... 00:38:01.099 --> 00:38:04.099 That was a Joanna Fabrics. 00:38:04.099 --> 00:38:05.099 Joanna Fabrics. 00:38:05.099 --> 00:38:06.099 Yeah, right. 00:38:06.099 --> 00:38:07.099 How many years ago was that? 00:38:07.099 --> 00:38:37.099 Yeah, I'm sorry. It's been a while. So any questions on the Meadows TIF? Okay, moving on to projects fund. So both of the following items have been transferred to the General Fund Street Department budget that used to be in the projects fund. This is being done per recommendation from the auditors, and there are zero revenue 00:38:37.099 --> 00:38:38.099 and Stacey. 00:38:38.099 --> 00:38:41.820 We have a lot of revenue and expenses in this fund in 2026. 00:38:41.820 --> 00:38:46.940 So the Sidewalk Fund and the Gene Adams Trail and Pecatonica Prairie Path have been moved 00:38:46.940 --> 00:38:49.940 to the street department. 00:38:49.940 --> 00:38:50.940 Alderman Stacey? 00:38:50.940 --> 00:38:57.940 I don't know if this is the place to ask this question. 00:38:57.940 --> 00:39:06.699 But what if we wanted to budget money for a lighting program? 00:39:06.699 --> 00:39:13.099 Wouldn't necessarily fall here, but that's definitely something we could discuss in the street budget or in the street streetlight budget 00:39:17.539 --> 00:39:19.980 Okay moving on to the downtown 00:39:21.500 --> 00:39:28.340 Revitalization loan fund the city currently has one active loan from this fund all available funds have been 00:39:28.780 --> 00:39:36.500 Programmed to 2026 if a new loan is requested by downtown businesses, then we'll change that at that time 00:39:36.699 --> 00:39:45.579 So and that concludes tonight's presentation on the budget. Thank you. 00:39:45.579 --> 00:39:56.820 Any other discussion on the budget items presented? None. Is public comments 00:39:56.820 --> 00:40:00.980 available for agenda or non-agenda items? 00:40:00.980 --> 00:40:16.539 Seeing none, I take a motion for adjournment. So move. Second. Motion by Klemm, second by Parker. All in favor? Aye. 00:40:16.539 --> 00:40:19.539 Opposed?