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Could you please give the invocation tonight?

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Alright, well good evening, Madam Mayor, Council, please pray with me.

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Father, we give you thanks tonight, even as in November we head towards time of thanks

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with thanksgiving just around the corner. Lord, we're grateful for your blessings in our lives.

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Even as we think of the words of James, that every good and perfect gift comes down from above from

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you, the Father of lights, in whom there is no variableness nor shadow of change. So we thank you

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for your good gifts that you pour out on us every day, and particularly in this council chamber.

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Lord, we thank you for the gifts of leadership and leaders. Lord, pray for these men and women tonight

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that in their respective callings and particular departments that they oversee and run

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on the council that you would help them to live and make decisions with integrity and character.

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Lord, that you'd preserve and strengthen them. Lord, help them to make the difficult decisions

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Well and that they would work together well or we realize we don't always have

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the same point of view but we can still work together in some amount of unity and

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we pray that that would be true here in Freeport and Lord we pray that you would

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bless our city and bless this meeting tonight we pray in Jesus name amen amen

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now we'll officially call this meeting to order madam clerk please take the role

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Mayor Miller? Here. Alderpersons, Klemm? Here. Johnson? Here. Simmons? Here. Parker? Here. Stacy? Here. Shadle? Here. Sanders? Here. And Sellers? Here. And if you could please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance led by Alderman Stacy.

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Item number one is the approval of the agenda. Is there such a motion? So moved. Second.

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A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. All those in favor signify by

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saying aye. Aye. Opposed? That motion passes. Number two is the approval of the minutes from

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the special meeting on November 3rd, 2025. Is there a motion? So moved. Second.

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We have a motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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No.

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Do you say that's 7-1, Madam Clerk?

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Yes, I'm fine with that, as Attorney Ziedel.

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And then we have public comment, which is on agenda items, Tim Davenport.

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Thank you. I think he stepped out. Okay, then we'll move on to consent agenda. The consent

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agenda is considered to be routine in nature and acted as one motion unless there's a member

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of the council that would like to have something removed for further discussion. The consent

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agenda yes Alderman Sanders the whole agenda for tonight I think we should table

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it for another is this well we're we've moved on from that already somebody gonna

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ask me a question well somebody asking me a question when I when I'm making my

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this my case well I think he's pointing out that we've moved on from that piece

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Police, we're on the consent agenda.

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The consent agenda is what you refer to, am I right?

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No the consent agenda is all of those individual little pieces of boards and commissions and

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reports.

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The agenda itself, we've already voted and moved on.

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Yeah, I'd like to have us table every one of the items on the agenda to further notice.

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And if anybody wants to ask me a question, I'd be glad to answer it for them.

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I'm going to direct this to Attorney Zito.

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I'm not sure how to handle that.

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I know you don't.

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So you wanted to table every item on the agenda.

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I want to table everything on the agenda.

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And that would have been appropriate to make when we were on the agenda item of approval

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of the agenda, but we already passed that point.

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How did we get past that point?

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You guys voted.

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A motion was made to approve the agenda, it was seconded, and then there was a vote on

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it.

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Okay.

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Number one, Alderman Sanders.

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I see it there now.

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I overlooked that.

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Thank you.

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That won't happen again.

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I overlooked that. Thank you. That won't happen again.

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And we'll move on to the Consent Agenda. The Consent Agenda is the minutes from the Board and Commission meetings for the Liquor Commission dated July 10th, August 19th, and September 11th.

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Smith, the Board of Fire and Police Commission, September 23rd, October 20th, the Firefighters

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Pension Board, July 30th, the Police Pension Board, August 26th, all 2025.

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Also is the October 2025 reports for building permits and Fire Department and then August

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and September of 2025 for the Finance Department reports and the Cash Investment reports and

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approval of the finance bills payable in the total of $3,145,135.33 and payroll ending

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November 1st, 2025 in the total of $845,650.41. Is there a motion to approve?

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So moved.

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Second.

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With a motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Madam Clerk, would you

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please take the roll?

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On the consent agenda, Shadle, Sanders, Sellers, Klemm, Johnson, Simmons, and Parker.

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The motion passes 8-0.

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Item number 5 is the first reading of Ordinance 2025-61.

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Could you please read this?

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Fiscal Year 2026, Appropriation Ordinance.

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Manager Boyer.

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Thank you, Your Honor.

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Each city fund and department has been presented at the Finance Committee of the Whole during

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a series of meetings that were held starting in September, attached as a Fiscal Year 2026

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in the Appropriation Ordinance format and also detailed budgets.

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I just think it was a lot to have to go through so quick and fast and I just feel that we need

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More Time to view this ordinance and make sure that this is what we want to do.

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Alderman Sanders? Yeah, I concur with that observation. There's a lot of things that

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that has appeared to be something

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that has not been considered by council.

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We have not considered any of these ordinances

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to see if they're relevant, see if they're valid

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and to see which direction

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that these ordinances take in the city.

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And we need to be able to absolutely look

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at the whole agenda list of ordinances

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and why are they being considered

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and who's submitting them.

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I like to get down to the bottom of

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who's submitting these ordinances

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and we have not had a council discussion

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on every one of these ordinances

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that are being presented to us,

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looking for some type of outcome or some type of objection or discussion on the matter. Why are we here talking about all of these ordinances?

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We have not even debated or talked about it, even in council.

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Council is pretty much not in tune with what is going on in these ordinances.

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And that's my opinion right now at the moment.

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But I'm almost about to say that's going to be a factual statement simply because I know this council

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and the fact that we're not moving according to the legislative part of the council

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that has to understand why it is we're entering into these types of events.

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and others.

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We have not had these types of events or these types of programs or anything that is not

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relevant to the taxpayers.

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We have not had this concert conversation with each other because I understand that

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we're all working on behalf of the taxpayers, the community, the citizens, and we're doing

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and

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just if we are not coming to conclusions, discussion matters in detail as opposed

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of just letting ordinances just fly out especially on this agenda that I'm

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looking at that's the reason why I wanted to sustain this thing at the very

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beginning but I missed that boat but I'm not gonna miss the opportunity to make

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Alderman, Shadle, I would just like to mention Alderman Sanders that all of this stuff was

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was discussed at the special meetings prior to the meetings, none of which you attended.

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So I'm not surprised you aren't aware of any of this, but I feel the rest of us are.

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Well, that's your opinion.

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Because we are here.

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You're talking directly, he's talking directly to me.

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But you can't interrupt, he has the floor.

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Yeah well he just can't make his statement publicly. If he has the floor please allow

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him to finish speaking. Okay all right okay.

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I think the rest of us are here doing our job. We know what's going on. We're taking this serious

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and if you're not um so be it I guess. Alderman Sellers did you have something? Yes I wanted to

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to say that we have been looking at this ever since, didn't you say September?

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We had no public presentation to ask any questions.

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We've had special meetings.

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We've looked at it.

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We have to move on because these are things that need to be done for 2026.

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And we can't just sit back and hold out because, you know, you didn't come to the meetings

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S. and X to questions because you have all the time since September to now, that's what

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two months, almost three months.

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We have to, we got to keep business moving and rolling.

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So I don't have a problem with us moving this to the second reading.

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Manager Boyer.

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And I'd like to comment Alderman Sanders that between now and second reading, I'll be making

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my schedule open to discuss any of the budget items.

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Alderman Sanders.

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We're on that ordinance.

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Okay, I know, but what I'm commenting about is the ones that are stating their opinions about what it is that council should be doing.

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And the fact that you, since I'm part of council, I get to object to even your comment and insinuation that we should just move on.

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If that is the attitude of council just to move on without having a discussion about it, which you're saying that I was not there, you can't tell me that I was not there because if this has something to do with finances, of course, I'm not attending finances when we have ordinances that is rebutting all of the things that we're talking about here in council.

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and others.

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It is counsel who has to come together and be accountable for all of these ordinances

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to find out whether they are relevant, whether that where it is something that the community

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wants to have.

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We have not did a complete evaluation of all of these ordinances that I see compiled up

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and I have been working on this agenda as if though we're trying to push something through the process

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when we have not had an informal conversation or discussion about it. So if you're talking

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about financing, if you're talking about finance, that's a whole different story. I'm talking about

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the ordinances for today. I'm talking about the ordinance that I'm sitting here looking at

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that we have not had a full discussion on these ordinances and for anyone that wants to tell me

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I don't mean that these ordinances are valid. I'm just going to say data information is very relevant in the output of what the council is supposed to be doing.

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So if someone wants to try to push things forward, well, you go right ahead and have your opinion about that. But I have my own opinion. I feel that it shouldn't be.

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and I think we should think about what we're saying and doing when it comes to council matters.

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And every one of these ordinances that I'm looking at is council matter.

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It's a matter of council.

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And when I feel that we have not done the right thing for council to talk about these ordinances

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and why they are relevant to the city and the people of the city of Freeport,

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we should just table everything until council get its act together.

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and others. And if we don't do that, then we've been in justice to the city to the citizens

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of this town. And I yield my last minute.

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Okay, so just so we're clear, we've moved on from approving the agenda, and we are on

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a specific ordinance. So if there's any other discussion on that ordinance.

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Mayor, can I make a comment?

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Well, you've already had your two times, Larry.

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Alderman, Stacy, do you have something on this ordinance?

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Yes.

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Okay, go ahead.

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I've been at the meetings and it was a lot to take in.

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I mean, some of us are retired, some of us are not.

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and all these ordinance are just compiled to fit the benefit of what you all want.

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Just like tonight, for example, I asked about the airport terminals buildings being updated.

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It's on the paperwork, but it was skipped over.

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it was not discussed.

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Like a lot of this have been because we don't have time

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to go over every itemized item.

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And I too feel that we are moving very, very fast.

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I mean, anybody can say, I, I, I, we gotta move forward.

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But do you know what you're even moving forward to?

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Do you know what you're even saying yes to?

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And I just think it's too much to put before

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the council tonight and expect all these ordinances

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just to go through just because.

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Just because. We need to have a total understanding of what all, not what was just talked about,

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and everything that these ordinances pertain to because it pertains to more that was pointed

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out and discussed.

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Alderman Stacy, the second reading isn't for two weeks, so if you want to have one-on-one

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discussions on them, you're more than welcome to do that.

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We know it's a lot.

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That's why we start in September.

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We'll move on to item number six, which is the first reading of ordinance 2025-62.

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Could you please read this?

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City of Freeport tax levy.

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Manager Boyer.

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Thank you, Your Honor.

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There, that's better.

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Thank you, Your Honor.

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We've attached a spreadsheet that calculates the city's corporate levy.

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We have received an estimated 2025 equalized assessed value from the county.

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The EAV for our tax district has decreased by $105,004 over the last year.

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Based on this information, the city's corporate tax levy for 2025 that is paid in 2026 would

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be $2,976,000, a decrease of $1,400.

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A house valued at $100,000 would see no change in the city's portion of their property tax

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Bill, as long as their assessed value did not change or increase. During the past nine years,

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the City Council has kept the rate, tax rate for the corporate levy the same or slightly

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lower than each year, and staff requests to move forward with the ordinance for second

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reading on the tax levy.

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Is there such a motion?

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So moved.

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Second.

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A motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle.

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Alderman Shadle discussion on ordinance 62 so this is Alderman Stacey so this is is speaking of

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an increase on our taxes no this is keeping our levy the same which we've done for the last nine

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years the same or less so we are not changing it but you said that we're negative this year

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Yeah, the EAV was down, so that affects us about $1,400, yes.

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So where do we make up that $1,400 at?

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We can make it up in any number of ways.

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So the budget is balanced and it reflects the EAV that we currently have.

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So $1,400 and a $27 million budget is not very much.

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Item number seven is the first reading of Ordinance 2025-63.

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Could you please read this?

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Freeport Public Library Tax Levy.

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Director Myers?

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The City Council adopts a separate levy for library operations each year.

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In 2023, the library reduced their levy requests for Medicare liability insurance, unemployment,

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and Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund in order to spend down prior reserves in these

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areas.

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At the time, we informed Council that these rates would need to increase when the funds

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were exhausted.

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The equalized assessed value for the City of Freeport has decreased by $105,004 over

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the last year.

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Due to this decrease, any additional increment from rising property values is not available.

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The other alternative is to increase the tax rate.

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As the 2023 levy was decreased previously in order to spend down reserves, the Library

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would like to increase the rate for 2025 paid in 2026. The library may increase their tax

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rate but only to an amount under 5% of the previous level. Based on this information,

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the library's levy request for 2025 to be paid in 2026 is $1,114,500. This increase

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would generate $52,500 more in property taxes from last year. Property taxes make up 84%

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of the Library's income. A house valued at $100,000 would see an increase of $6 in the

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Library portion of their tax bill. Staff requests City Council to move this ordinance forward

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for second reading on December 1st, 2025.

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Thank you. Is there a motion to move it forward?

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So moved.

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Second.

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Motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion on Ordinance

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63.

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And number eight is a motion to, I'll need a motion to abate all real estate tax levies

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for repayment of general obligation bonds, but Madam Clerk, could you please read into

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the record all of those ordinances?

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Ordinance 2025-64, ordinance to abate the 2025 real estate tax levy for the repayment

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of the general obligation bonds, series 2013-A, ordinance 2025-65, ordinance to abate the

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To obey the 2025 Real Estate Tax Levy for the repayment of the Obligation Bonds, Series

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2014b.

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Ordinance 2025-66 To Obey the 2025 Real Estate Tax Levy from the Repayment of the General

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Obligation Bonds, Series 2015a.

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Ordinance 2025-67 To Obey the 2025 Real Estate Tax Levy for the Repayment of the General

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Obligation Bonds, Series 2016a.

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Ordinance 2025-68 to abate the 2025 Real Estate Tax Levy for the repayment of the General

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Obligation Bonds, Series 2018.

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Ordinance 2025-69 to abate the 2025 Real Estate Tax Levy for the repayment of the General

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Obligation Bonds, Series 2019a.

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Ordinance 2025-70 to abate the 2025 Real Estate Tax Levy for the repayment of the General

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General Obligation Bonds, Series 2020, Ordnance 2025-71 to abate the 2025 Real Estate Tax

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Levy for the repayment of the General Obligation Bonds, Series 2021, Ordnance 2025-72 to abate

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the 2025 Real Estate Tax Levy for the repayment of the General Obligation Bonds, Series 2022.

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Thank you.

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Manager Boyer?

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Thank you, Your Honor.

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Hello. As you can note in your memo are the individual bond issues that City Clerk Anderson

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just recently read and the amount to be abated and the source of revenue that will be used

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to make the bond payment. We have also included the potential increased cost on property taxes

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on an average $100,000 on our home if the bonds were not abated. Staff request City

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Council move forward with this ordinance. A second reading.

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Thank you. Is there a motion to move forward?

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A second.

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We have a motion made by Alderman Klemm, seconded by Alderman Johnson.

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Discussion on the abatements.

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We'll move on to item number nine, which is the first reading of ordinance 2025-73. Could you please read this?

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Ordinance authorizing the sale, recycling, donation, and or disposal of certain personal property owned by the city.

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Tonight, we have equipment stored at Albertus Airport.

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Thank you. Manager Boyer.

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Thank you, Your Honor. Albertus is currently in need of disposing of several items of property that are at the airport.

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One is a 1992 Fortoros, the other is a 1974 Lodestar fuel truck, also a John Deere loader,

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and a Wabasso 3.55 gallon sprayer.

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There's no financial commitment or effect by the city

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and staff recommends moving forward with the ordinance

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for this surplus property for destruction or sale.

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Is there such a motion?

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So moved.

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Second.

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A motion made by Alderman Shadle,

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seconded by Alderman Sellers, discussion on this ordinance.

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Do you do you need it approved quicker or is it okay just to go till December on

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that? Yes, that's fine. Move forward to December 1st meeting. December's fine? Okay.

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Are we still open for discussion? Yes, Alderman Sanders. A question. Are these items up for auction or sale or are we disposing of it? Yes, in general we use the Wisconsin Surplus Auction Site. It seems to work good for us across the board.

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So, when we get to that place where they're being liquidated, we would probably post them

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on that site.

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We'll also do some investigating to see if there's a better site for the other items,

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the fuel truck in particular.

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Okay, could you submit all receipts onto the council where we may be able to discuss the

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matter of the directions of those funds?

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Do you mean the listings?

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item number 10 is the first reading of ordinance 2025 74 could you please read

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this ordinance granting a special use permit to allow restaurants taverns

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packaged liquor stores and any other establishment selling alcoholic

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beverages for consumption on or off the premises section 1252.01 be 11 at 320

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North Park Boulevard.

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Thank you.

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Director Heimerdinger.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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The past owners of the Royer Pub held a special use permit allowing the sale of alcohol.

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Staff received a special use permit application from Mishka Inc., the new owners of the property

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who wish to continue the same uses.

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Since special use permits are tied to the owner and the property is in the B3 commercial

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District. This requires a new special use permit. Both the Zoning Board of Appeals and the Planning Commission have recommended approval. The proposed use continues the established operation, aligns with the surrounding commercial properties, does not negatively impact public health, safety of property values, and supports community economic development. The staff recommends the approval of this special use permit, and also we are requesting the suspension of rules. Is there a motion to move this forward? So moved. Second.

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A motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion on this ordinance. Alderman Parker. Motion to suspend the rules.

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Is there a second? Second.

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We have a motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Shadle for suspension of the rules. Suspension of the rules is non-debatable and must pass by a two-thirds majority. Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll on the suspension only?

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Stacy? No.

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Shadle? Aye.

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Sanders, Sellers, Klemm, Johnson, Simmons, and Parker.

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the motion to suspend.

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Parker, aye. The motion to suspend passes 6 to 2. So now before you counsel, it would

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be the final passage of this ordinance. Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

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Stacy, aye. Shadle, aye.

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Sanders, aye. Sellers, aye.

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Klemm, aye. Johnson, aye.

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Simmons, aye. Parker, aye.

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and the Ordinance is approved, 8-0.

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Item number 11 is the first reading of Ordinance 2025-75.

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Could you please read this?

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Ordinance granting a special use permit to allow a restaurant with outdoor serving areas,

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including drive-in services, unless otherwise permitted as a sidewalk, cafe, or parklet

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under Section 1252.01B10 at 320 North Park Boulevard.

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Thank you.

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Director Heimerdinger.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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The past owners of the Roya Pub held a special use permit for this as well for a restaurant with outdoor seating. Staff received a special use permit application from Mishka Inc, the new owners of the property who wish to continue operating the restaurant with the existing outdoor dining areas.

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In the B3 commercial district, special use permits are tied to the owner. This application stems from the ownership change. That's the only big change happening here.

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Both the Zoning Board of Appeals and the Planning Commission recommend the approval.

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This continues use in aligning with the surrounding commercial properties, does not negatively

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impact public health, safety, or property values, and supports community economic development.

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Staff recommends approval of the special use permit and also the re-request suspension

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of the rules.

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Is there a motion to move this forward?

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So moved.

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Second.

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Motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion on this ordinance?

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Motion to suspend the rules. Second.

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Motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Sellers for suspension of the rules.

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Again, suspension of the rules is non-debatable. Madam Clerk, would you please take the role

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on the suspension only? Stacy?

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No. Shadle?

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Aye. Sanders?

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No. Sellers?

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Aye. Klemm?

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Aye. Johnson?

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Aye. Simmons?

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Aye. And Parker?

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Aye. The suspension passes 6-2. So then before you is the final passage for this ordinance.

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Alderman Stacey. What is 320 Park Boulevard, North Park Boulevard? That's the Royal Pub area.

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The what? The Royal Pub.

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And so it's under new management? Yes, so they, yes, so the property was

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was purchased and it has new owners and special use permits can only be they can't be transferred

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to a different owner they have to be tied to the owner itself.

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So that's why this is this is why they have submitted their application.

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They're a new owner.

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They want to continue running it as it was before and have the same special uses.

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Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

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Stacey.

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Aye.

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Shadle.

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Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. And Parker? Aye. And that ordinance is adopted 8 to 0. Item number 12 is the first reading of ordinance 2025-76. Could you please read this?

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Ordinance amending the zoning classification or a map amendment at 602 Southwest Avenue from B11 restricted retail business to an R6 general residence district. Thank you. Director Heimerdinger.

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Heimerdinger.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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Staff received a Zoning Map Amendment request for 602 Southwest Avenue to rezone the property

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from B11 Restricted Retail Business to R6 General Residence.

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The property is currently legal, nonconforming, three-unit residential building.

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The owner is seeking rezoning to facilitate its sale.

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As lenders typically will not finance nonconforming properties, rezoning would make the property

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Legal and Conforming, Allowing the New Owners to Obtain Financing and Insurance, Both the

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Zoning Board of Appeals and Planning Commission Recommended the Approval, There is Zoning

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Alliance with the Surrounding Residential Uses and Supports Community Housing Needs, Staff

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Recommends the Approval and Suspension of the Rules.

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Is there a motion to move this forward?

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So moved.

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Second.

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A motion made by Alderman Seller, seconded by Alderman Shadle, Discussion on the Ordinance.

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Alderman Shadle? If I could quick, does this R6, I'm familiar with the building and it formerly had some, an insurance agency in the lower level, does this R6 allow for that to continue or is it strictly residential?

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it would be so in order for that in order for the residential that commercial

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business to continue in the downstairs unit they just get a special variant so

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they would make theirs legal non-conforming or it just flip-flops the

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two so it would have to change if they would want to put a business back in yes

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it would just yeah and the next line item not to get ahead of myself but I

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I think it's relevant to the discussion.

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It is the reason why they want to do this is

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if there was a fire, if there was, you know,

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in order to obtain insurance properly,

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most insurance providers wanna be able for you

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to continue to use that property.

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As it would speak right now with the legal non-conforming,

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what would happen is if there was a fire

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and something happens to the building,

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and they would have to adhere to the residential building code.

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And so there won't be enough area to actually get a suitable amount of square footage anymore.

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So in order to make that happen, this is the way to zone it so that the use is correct

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and that they can receive financing for their residential area.

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and also to in to kind of hopefully still utilize the commercial setbacks so that if they had

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to rebuild they could rebuild.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Alderman Parker.

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Motion to suspend the rules.

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Second.

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We have a motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Sellers for suspension

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of the rules.

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Again, suspension of the rules must pass by two-thirds majority.

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I'll come back to you after we take the vote.

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Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

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about the vote about the vote yes um well it's the suspension is non-debatable so

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before we get to the actual vote then I'll we can do that madam clerk please

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take the role Stacy no Shadle all right Sanders no Sellers I Clem Johnson I

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Simmons Parker I and the suspension passes 6 to 2 so now before you is the

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The final passage for Ordinance 76. Alderman, Stacy, did you have a question then?

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Was the suspension even asked for? Yes.

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Yes. Yeah, it was on here.

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Alderman Sanders?

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I, you know, I like for those that are suspending rules, couple it with an explanation so Council can understand

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Taylor, and the mental state of someone that's suspending rules so we can all get the same

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explanation and understanding. I recommend that just throwing suspension of the rules out there

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without evaluating why you're doing such a thing and then not getting a full understanding. We

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might want to come back and talk about that particular item at any given time, but with

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with the suspension of the rule,

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you're trying to make sure that that doesn't happen,

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that other council members can't inject their viewpoints

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or expressions about this particular item

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or any item that you're suspending.

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And I see a pattern here without explanation.

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And I think the council deserves an explanation

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when you're doing that.

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Alderman, Sanders, just so you know, Director Heimerdinger asked for that on the last...

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Yeah, I heard her.

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Okay, so it's been her recommendation in order to move it forward, so it gives the council

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the ability to...

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I'm talking.

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Actually, you could have asked questions two times within that if you wanted.

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Yeah, I could have, but what I'm saying is I see a pattern without an explanation of

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and others.

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We have a lot of people, we have a lot of people who are not aware of the suspending

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of the rules.

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And if you can't provide explanation of the suspension, then I don't think you should

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just liberally just be casting suspensions before counsel so counsel cannot discuss the

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matter of any particular suspension.

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So that's what I'm stating right now.

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And I think we should move forward, even on that, when we're doing that.

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I don't have a problem with accepting the zoning change. I did not hear you ask for the suspension.

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And like Alderman Sanders is saying, every time you turn around, everything, suspension of the rules, suspension of the rules.

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And it just gets a little annoying because everything is rush rush rush like we need this now.

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Now.

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like we need this now. Yeah, I can, is it okay if I? Sure. Beautiful. So the reason that we are requesting the suspension of rules in these cases is because it has seen both the Zoning Board of Appeals and also has also passed through the Planning Commission. So it's already seen multiple, it's already made multiple steps forward. And so in order to do this, it also these individuals, they they would like their special use permit

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and

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of Suspension of Rules Lightly. We do this knowing that it is passed through

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multiple steps in order to get here and so we're asking that in favor of all the

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work that was done for the two people who've requested these variants or

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requested a special use permit. Thank you. Alderman Sanders. Okay, even at that

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and the City Council.

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That is, that you're discussing.

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That doesn't mean Council has to agree with it.

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Council can come up with other scenarios and ask other questions to debate whether or not

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this is a very valid thing to do for Council.

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We don't want to set a precedent of suspending rules because anyone that comes to the

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and the development department community might also request suspensions of the rules so they

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can get things the way they choose to want to get it without council consulting with

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each other in these matters.

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And that's the reason why I'm saying that council should not be so quick to jump on

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board with a suspension without the council evaluating or understanding and listening

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to the full detail of this suspension.

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You know, I don't have no problem with it

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unless it's very relevant.

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It has to have some kind of validation to it

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other than just suspending it.

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That's the reason why I'm saying suspensions

00:42:34.659 --> 00:42:38.179
just can't just be something that we throw out there

00:42:38.179 --> 00:42:40.899
and counsel accepted every time.

00:42:40.899 --> 00:42:43.980
Counsel has to get on board with the fact

00:42:43.980 --> 00:42:48.219
that a suspension has been asked or ruled

00:42:48.219 --> 00:42:50.219
and the City Council.

00:42:50.219 --> 00:42:52.219
We have to know why these things are happening.

00:42:52.219 --> 00:42:54.219
There is a pattern going on with this.

00:42:54.219 --> 00:42:56.219
I object to it personally.

00:42:56.219 --> 00:43:02.219
But from what I understand, we can't just throw it out there like it is something that we can do to circumvent the council in order to get some things done.

00:43:02.219 --> 00:43:04.219
I don't think we should have to go through that method.

00:43:04.219 --> 00:43:06.219
But that's my whole point.

00:43:06.219 --> 00:43:11.579
it's something that we can do to get to circumvent the council in order to get

00:43:11.579 --> 00:43:16.019
some things done I don't think we should have to go through that method but

00:43:16.019 --> 00:43:24.259
that's my that's my whole objection of that you've already spoken twice on it I

00:43:24.259 --> 00:43:54.259
I spoke twice on this at 645 and 647. Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy. What am I voting on? Suspension of the rules? No, we've already done that. That has passed in the ordinance. Aye. Shadle. Aye. Sanders. Aye. Sellers. Aye. Klemm. Aye. Johnson. Aye. Simmons. Aye. And Parker.

00:43:54.259 --> 00:43:58.639
Parker, and that ordinance passes 8-0.

00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.019
Item number 13 is the first reading of Ordinance 2025-77.

00:44:02.019 --> 00:44:03.980
Could you please read this?

00:44:03.980 --> 00:44:08.500
Ordinance approving variance application at 602 Southwest Avenue submitted by Douglas

00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:15.819
and Karen Walker to examine the variance application to seek relief from Section 1250.06E3, the

00:44:15.819 --> 00:44:24.940
Minimum Lot Area Required, 1250-06-F1, the Front Yard Requirements, 250-06-F2C, the Side

00:44:24.940 --> 00:44:31.139
Yard Requirements, and 1250-06-F3, Rear Yard Requirements.

00:44:31.139 --> 00:44:38.019
Oh, and there's one more, 1250-06-G, Lot Coverage Area in a Residential District.

00:44:38.019 --> 00:44:39.019
Thank you.

00:44:39.019 --> 00:44:40.019
Director Heimerdinger.

00:44:40.019 --> 00:44:41.019
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

00:44:41.019 --> 00:44:49.779
received a variance application for 602 Southwest Avenue in the R6 General Residence District

00:44:49.779 --> 00:44:54.639
to bring the existing three-unit residential structure into legal compliance.

00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:59.159
The variance would allow the property to remain residential and maintain the current setbacks

00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:04.359
even if the building were to be damaged by fire and needed to be rebuilt.

00:45:04.359 --> 00:45:09.500
This request stems from the potential new owners need to obtain financing and building

00:45:09.500 --> 00:45:10.500
insurance.

00:45:10.500 --> 00:45:16.819
Residential setbacks would make it nearly impossible to rebuild with any usable square footage.

00:45:16.819 --> 00:45:22.219
Both the Zoning Board of Appeals and the Planning Commission recommend the approval.

00:45:22.219 --> 00:45:27.500
The variance aligns with the surrounding use and does not negatively impact the neighborhood.

00:45:27.500 --> 00:45:32.500
Staff recommends the approval of the requested variance and we do request the suspension

00:45:32.500 --> 00:45:33.500
of rules.

00:45:33.500 --> 00:45:35.299
Is there a motion to move this forward?

00:45:35.299 --> 00:45:36.299
So moved.

00:45:36.299 --> 00:45:37.299
Second.

00:45:37.299 --> 00:45:43.019
Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Discussion on the ordinance.

00:45:43.019 --> 00:45:45.519
Suspension of the rules request. Second.

00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.859
We have a motion made for suspension of the rules made by Alderman Parker, seconded by

00:45:50.859 --> 00:45:56.539
Alderman Sellers. Again, non-debatable. Madam Clerk, please take the roll on suspension only.

00:45:56.539 --> 00:45:57.980
Stacy? Aye.

00:45:57.980 --> 00:45:58.980
Shadle? Aye.

00:45:58.980 --> 00:45:59.980
Sanders? No.

00:45:59.980 --> 00:46:00.980
Sellers? Aye.

00:46:00.980 --> 00:46:01.980
Kelem? Aye.

00:46:01.980 --> 00:46:02.980
Johnson? Aye.

00:46:02.980 --> 00:46:03.980
Simmons? Aye.

00:46:03.980 --> 00:46:06.980
And Parker? Aye.

00:46:06.980 --> 00:46:09.739
The suspension passes seven to one.

00:46:09.739 --> 00:46:12.980
So now before you is the final passage of this ordinance.

00:46:12.980 --> 00:46:16.939
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:46:16.939 --> 00:46:17.939
Stacy?

00:46:17.939 --> 00:46:18.939
Aye.

00:46:18.939 --> 00:46:19.939
Shadle?

00:46:19.939 --> 00:46:20.939
Aye.

00:46:20.939 --> 00:46:21.939
Sanders?

00:46:21.939 --> 00:46:22.939
Aye.

00:46:22.939 --> 00:46:23.939
Sellers?

00:46:23.939 --> 00:46:24.939
Aye.

00:46:24.939 --> 00:46:25.939
Klemm?

00:46:25.939 --> 00:46:26.939
Aye.

00:46:26.939 --> 00:46:27.939
Johnson?

00:46:27.939 --> 00:46:28.939
Aye.

00:46:28.939 --> 00:46:29.939
Simmons?

00:46:29.939 --> 00:46:30.939
Aye.

00:46:30.939 --> 00:46:31.939
And Parker?

00:46:31.939 --> 00:46:32.939
Aye.

00:46:32.939 --> 00:46:33.939
And the ordinance passes eight to zero.

00:46:33.939 --> 00:46:34.939
Item number 14 is the adoption of resolution 2025-134.

00:46:34.939 --> 00:46:35.939
Could you please read this?

00:46:35.940 --> 00:46:41.299
Building Concrete Sidewalk Ceiling and Staining by NYCAM on Chicago Avenue.

00:46:41.299 --> 00:46:42.739
Manager Boyer.

00:46:42.739 --> 00:46:44.299
Thank you, Your Honor.

00:46:44.299 --> 00:46:50.380
Each year we need to continue to maintain the stamp break on Chicago Avenue.

00:46:50.380 --> 00:46:56.179
Staff reached out to several qualified contractors and only received one estimate from NYCAM.

00:46:56.179 --> 00:47:03.179
So the work is complete and staff is requesting to move forward with a payment of $14,795

00:47:03.179 --> 00:47:07.619
for the ceiling and stain work for that area.

00:47:09.099 --> 00:47:10.619
Is there a motion to adopt?

00:47:10.619 --> 00:47:11.659
Tomo.

00:47:11.659 --> 00:47:12.500
Second.

00:47:14.379 --> 00:47:16.219
Motion made by Alderman Shadle,

00:47:16.219 --> 00:47:17.619
seconded by Alderman Sellers.

00:47:17.619 --> 00:47:19.699
Discussion on the resolution?

00:47:19.699 --> 00:47:20.539
Yeah.

00:47:20.539 --> 00:47:21.619
Alderman Sanders.

00:47:21.619 --> 00:47:26.619
Where's this location at, again, where are we targeting?

00:47:27.379 --> 00:47:29.339
On Chicago Avenue between

00:47:29.339 --> 00:47:41.739
Clark, and Jefferson. Jackson, sorry. Oh, Jackson, at the O'Rally building? Yes. No.

00:47:41.739 --> 00:47:46.380
That's not at the O'Rally? No, that was plant two. Honeywell, sorry about that.

00:47:46.380 --> 00:47:51.179
Yeah. Honeywell building. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right, thanks.

00:47:51.179 --> 00:47:53.379
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:47:53.379 --> 00:47:54.379
Stacy?

00:47:54.379 --> 00:47:55.379
No.

00:47:55.379 --> 00:47:56.379
Shadle?

00:47:56.379 --> 00:47:57.379
Aye.

00:47:57.379 --> 00:47:58.379
Sanders?

00:47:58.379 --> 00:47:59.379
No.

00:47:59.379 --> 00:48:00.379
Sellers?

00:48:00.379 --> 00:48:01.379
Aye.

00:48:01.379 --> 00:48:02.379
Klemm?

00:48:02.379 --> 00:48:03.379
Aye.

00:48:03.379 --> 00:48:04.379
Johnson?

00:48:04.379 --> 00:48:05.379
Aye.

00:48:05.379 --> 00:48:06.379
Simmons?

00:48:06.379 --> 00:48:07.379
Aye.

00:48:07.379 --> 00:48:08.379
Parker?

00:48:08.379 --> 00:48:09.379
Aye.

00:48:09.379 --> 00:48:10.379
The resolution is adopted, 6-2.

00:48:10.379 --> 00:48:11.379
Item number 15 is the adoption of resolution 2025-135.

00:48:11.379 --> 00:48:12.379
Could you please read this?

00:48:12.379 --> 00:48:16.139
Resolution, approving payment to Freeport Industrial Roofing for repairs of three airport

00:48:16.139 --> 00:48:17.139
hanger roofs.

00:48:17.139 --> 00:48:18.859
Manager Boyer?

00:48:18.859 --> 00:48:20.559
Thank you, Honor.

00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:27.920
Albertus Airport's got several hanger roofs that were leaking. We consulted with a Freeport

00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:34.239
industrial who does this type of repair, which is epoxying the nails back into the trusses,

00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:39.920
and they have repaired three hangers at this point, and staff is requesting to move forward

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:47.559
with payment in the amount of $19,670 for the repair of hangers at Albertus Airport.

00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:49.199
Is there a motion to adopt?

00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:50.199
So moved.

00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:55.199
Motion made by Alderman Sellers. Seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion on the

00:48:55.199 --> 00:49:02.839
resolution. Alderman Sanders. Yeah. Do we get receipts on those items? We get invoices.

00:49:02.839 --> 00:49:06.799
Yes. Invoices. We'll get that. Okay. Would you distribute that to Council, please?

00:49:06.799 --> 00:49:12.879
They're attached to your agenda. Are they? Yes. I didn't see that in my agenda. Yep.

00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:21.199
they're right here the quote portion oh okay i see it i see it thank you madam clerk please take the

00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:32.159
role stacy no shadle i sanders no sellers i clem all right johnson i simmons parker i the resolution

00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:42.799
is adopted six to two item number 16 is the adoption of resolution 2025 136 could you please read

00:49:42.799 --> 00:49:49.319
Resolution Ratifying Emergency Purchase of Biological Aeration Filter or a BAF Pump for

00:49:49.319 --> 00:49:53.799
those cities, Wastewater Treatment Plant from Zimmer and Franciscan.

00:49:53.799 --> 00:49:55.119
Thank you.

00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:56.119
Manager Boyer?

00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:57.119
Thank you, Your Honor.

00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.119
Report has a biological ac- ac-

00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:04.359
Report has a biological aeration filtration pump housing which is broken

00:50:04.359 --> 00:50:08.619
and needs emergency replacement. The BAF is an important facility for the wastewater

00:50:08.619 --> 00:50:12.679
treatment plant to meet our treatment requirements. The city requires pump to

00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:16.679
operate at the BAF building as part of the filter treatment process and one of

00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.440
the pumps is fully worn out and needs to be replaced. The replacement cost was

00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:26.679
given for a direct replacement from Zimmer and Franciscan. Lead time is 10 to

00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:35.880
12 Weeks, and the City will be requesting $17,120 to replace the emergency pump.

00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.039
Is there a motion to adopt?

00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:39.039
So moved.

00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:40.039
Second.

00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:43.880
Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers.

00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:44.880
Discussion on the resolution?

00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:45.880
Alderman Stacy?

00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:56.440
Does this contract come with insurance warranty and if so, for how many years?

00:50:56.440 --> 00:51:00.359
I don't believe it has a warranty, but I may be incorrect on that, Darren.

00:51:00.359 --> 00:51:05.319
It's a pump housing, so it's a dynamic asset that moves, so it would not be warrantied for

00:51:05.319 --> 00:51:06.599
more than a year.

00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:08.480
And this does not include an installation.

00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:14.519
This is our crews doing the installation and the teardown of the other pump and the rebuild.

00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:15.519
Alderman Sanders.

00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.519
Does that include the aeration tank altogether?

00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:21.519
It's just the pump.

00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:22.519
Just pumps.

00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:23.519
It has nothing.

00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:24.519
It's just one of the pumps.

00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:25.519
Just one pump.

00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:28.880
and it's an original so this will be the first time the housing has been replaced.

00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.719
All right, thanks.

00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:34.159
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:35.839
Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.

00:51:35.839 --> 00:51:36.639
Would you like to do another one?

00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:39.079
Yeah, I have another question.

00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:44.199
This is not, are we replacing it or are we just doing maintenance work to this item?

00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.119
It's a replacement of the housing.

00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:47.279
It's got a hole in it.

00:51:47.279 --> 00:51:48.119
It's fully worn.

00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:50.119
So we have to replace the whole thing.

00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.880
Okay, thank you.

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:54.519
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

00:51:54.519 --> 00:52:07.000
Stacy, Shadle, Sanders, Sellers, Klemm, Johnson, Simmons, Parker, and the resolution is adopted 8-0.

00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:12.119
Item number 17 is the adoption of resolution 2025-137. Could you please read this?

00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.159
Resolution approving an agreement with Fehr Graham to provide

00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:23.559
polyflour alcohol substances or PFAS testing and inventory related to City's Wastewater NPDES

00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:31.880
Permit. Manager Boyer. Thank you. And Kirk, if I could get that item put up on the overhead.

00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:43.239
So tonight, Council, we have several items that kind of fit in the same family related to wastewater

00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:48.119
treatment plant regulation. And I wanted to kind of hit on a few items that we'll get into in a

00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:55.400
Littlebit, but it does touch on this item as well. So the Environmental Protection

00:52:55.400 --> 00:53:01.099
Agency is working to improve the receiving streams to the Mississippi

00:53:01.099 --> 00:53:06.239
River Basin. And why it matters here in Freeport is the highlight of the growing

00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:10.440
concern about, and in this particular case, is about nutrient pollution, but

00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:19.259
but NPDES also, I'm sorry, the polyfluoroalkali is also a concern as well.

00:53:19.259 --> 00:53:24.079
Essentially these nutrients and in the case of PFAS, they make their way into receiving

00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:29.400
streams from our discharge and through agricultural and plant growth but when you have too much

00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:35.960
of it, it enters the rivers and it impacts this area in the Gulf of Mexico which is kind

00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:37.119
of a dead zone.

00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:41.059
and the problem is you have too many nutrients that find their way down there and they're

00:53:41.059 --> 00:53:44.960
looking to remove those before they get into those receiving streams.

00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:50.960
So the Environmental Protection Agency conducted a nationwide wadable streams assessment to

00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:55.380
evaluate the health of small streams that are shallow enough to be waded through.

00:53:55.380 --> 00:54:00.079
The study found that about two-thirds of the streams in the lowest 48 states have high

00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:05.460
levels of nitrogen and about 31 percent have high levels of phosphorus.

00:54:05.460 --> 00:54:10.900
in the Mississippi River Basin, which covers 31 states and more than 1 million square miles.

00:54:10.900 --> 00:54:12.339
The numbers are higher.

00:54:12.339 --> 00:54:18.980
We also have 40% of the streams tested showed high nutrients, including phosphorus.

00:54:18.980 --> 00:54:23.219
On the upper Mississippi, which is our area where Freeport's located, has some of the

00:54:23.219 --> 00:54:24.579
most concerning results.

00:54:24.579 --> 00:54:31.519
Roughly 50% of the streams had high nitrogen concentrations and 23% had high phosphorus.

00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.960
So the Ohio, as well as other areas including the Ohio River Basin.

00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:41.579
So local significance for the City of Freeport, this finding carries direct meaning our local

00:54:41.579 --> 00:54:46.579
streams feed into the Mississippi River and what we do here affects not only our community

00:54:46.579 --> 00:54:49.799
but also the water quality far downstream.

00:54:49.799 --> 00:54:54.839
Excess nutrient contribute to water quality problems across the Midwest and ultimately

00:54:54.839 --> 00:55:00.940
lead to large low oxygen zone in the Gulf of Mexico that cannot sustain life.

00:55:00.940 --> 00:55:04.960
So as we go through the rest of these items tonight, we're going to be talking about water

00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.619
quality at the wastewater treatment plant.

00:55:07.619 --> 00:55:13.099
So this first item that we have in front of us is the phase one study for the perfluorinated

00:55:13.099 --> 00:55:17.019
compounds or polyfluoroalkali PFAS.

00:55:17.019 --> 00:55:21.579
So within our community, we have certain industries that contribute to the waste stream and in

00:55:21.579 --> 00:55:25.980
those streams, some of them contain PFAS.

00:55:25.980 --> 00:55:30.739
So essentially, we have to study this to find out what the scope is, where it's impacting

00:55:30.739 --> 00:55:36.679
and then work on a remediation strategy with those wherever those point sources

00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:42.940
are. So tonight what we're asking for on this first item number 17 is moving

00:55:42.940 --> 00:55:47.299
forward with the requirements of the NPDES that's the National Pollution

00:55:47.299 --> 00:55:53.219
Discharge Elimination Permit and is required to move forward. The total cost

00:55:53.219 --> 00:56:01.099
Post of this study is $41,000 for our Phase 1 PFAS.

00:56:01.099 --> 00:56:02.579
Is there a motion to adopt?

00:56:02.579 --> 00:56:03.579
So moved.

00:56:03.579 --> 00:56:04.579
Second.

00:56:04.579 --> 00:56:10.340
A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers.

00:56:10.340 --> 00:56:14.179
Discussion on the resolution, Alderman Sanders?

00:56:14.179 --> 00:56:16.420
Yes.

00:56:16.420 --> 00:56:19.420
Director Boyer.

00:56:19.420 --> 00:56:26.139
Have we had any red flags over there at the plant as far as our discharging, any reports,

00:56:26.139 --> 00:56:32.179
any stagnant type of things happening over there where it brings us to our attention

00:56:32.179 --> 00:56:40.739
where we are in a position to pay $41,000 to do a study?

00:56:40.739 --> 00:56:41.739
Yes.

00:56:41.739 --> 00:56:49.000
I mean, I find that kind of expensive just to do the study when they're doing the work

00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:56.920
before the study. The work has already been evaluated by EPA, which keeps us informed about

00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:04.199
our status, that keeps us whether or not we in violation any time we're doing discharging

00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:12.279
and things of this nature, especially downriver. Have we received any acknowledgement from EPA about

00:58:12.279 --> 00:58:16.079
Regulated Contaminant in the past and now it is being regulated so we have to do

00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:21.079
the study to find out what it is we need to do in the next steps. Okay, and who's

00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:26.880
the... Did you want your second one? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Did you want your second one? Yeah, who's doing this study?

00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:33.800
Well, that would be Fehr Graham. Are they licensed and certified to do such

00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:38.719
studies? They are highly qualified. They're highly qualified because the reason why

00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:46.119
I'm saying this, I have never heard that Fehr and Graham ever got into testing waterways

00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:52.519
and discharging and things of this nature and how was they recommended to the city and

00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:58.759
have the council considered Fehr and Graham to do that study and have we talked about

00:58:58.759 --> 00:59:02.840
it or discussed whether or not Fehr and Graham is going to do that study.

00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:07.880
There's other agencies out there that does the same study and if we have not gone for

00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:08.880
and others.

00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:22.880
I think we're isolating ourselves from other agencies to come in and do a study as well.

00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:30.880
That's the reason why I find that study lucrative, expensive, because the study doesn't require

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:37.159
No, more than 24 hours or 78 hours at the max or 73 hours at the max.

00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:45.199
I think that if you'll let me jump in here, I think the majority of the cost here is actually the running of the samples at the lab.

00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:47.119
It's a very expensive sample to run.

00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:51.039
I believe it's anywhere between $1,000 and $3,000 per sample.

00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:59.079
Isn't doesn't that I've worked on this with the water side and we have to do we have a fairly.

00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:04.759
We have to do, we have a fairly expensive testing regimen but the majority of this is going

01:00:04.759 --> 01:00:05.759
to be examples.

01:00:05.759 --> 01:00:08.759
Are we equipped ourselves to do these kinds of testings?

01:00:08.759 --> 01:00:09.759
Absolutely, no.

01:00:09.759 --> 01:00:10.759
No.

01:00:10.759 --> 01:00:11.960
We're not equipped to do that?

01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:12.960
No.

01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.039
That has to be sent out to a specialized testing facility.

01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.960
We use PACE in general and they're in Springfield.

01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:21.759
Alderman, Sellers?

01:00:21.759 --> 01:00:25.079
This is something that we have to do from the EPA.

01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:26.079
Yes.

01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:56.079
New permit that just recently came through, I gave a copy to Alderman Sanders, requires us to start looking at what's coming through on the wastewater side for the forever chemicals. So as you'll recall, we had indication of that at the old brick street plant, which is basically in standby status. And unless we have like a major fire, we've replaced it with well number 11. And we're working on well number 12. So we're going to all kinds of efforts to take

01:00:56.079 --> 01:01:23.119
Stacey, Alderman, Alderman, Stacy, Yes, you just said that $1,000 to $3,000 for the testing.

01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:30.679
No, one to three per sample. There's so many samples that need to be required for the testing.

01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:38.559
I don't have the actual requirement in front of me in terms of what the EPA is requiring

01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:42.559
here, but the samples themselves are very expensive. That's why I wanted to highlight

01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:43.559
that.

01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:49.880
Okay. I didn't have that understanding, one to three thousand per example. How many phases

01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:53.279
Will this involve in its entirety?

01:01:53.279 --> 01:01:57.960
This is speaking of phase one, costing us $41,000.

01:01:57.960 --> 01:01:59.960
How many phases will there be,

01:01:59.960 --> 01:02:04.319
and what is the guesstimate cost

01:02:04.319 --> 01:02:07.599
of this project in its entirety?

01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:08.960
Well, first we have to do this study

01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:10.539
to find out what the actual numbers are.

01:02:10.539 --> 01:02:11.380
Until we have those,

01:02:11.380 --> 01:02:14.199
we can't tell you what the severity

01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.360
or what the remediation is gonna require.

01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:46.360
Miller. However, I'll lay out a larger term timeline here. When we find out if they exist, if they're in the discharge and they're not, of course, if they are, we're going to backtrack that to the contributing sources. Then we're going to work with those contributing sources to remediate the perfluorinated compounds from entering the waste stream. That could be as simple as say changing a manufacturing technique in their plant. So they just stop using a certain product, say a mold release.

01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:48.739
and they go to a non-proflurinated compound one.

01:02:48.739 --> 01:02:50.799
That would solve, that's one example

01:02:50.799 --> 01:02:52.119
of how you would solve it.

01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.079
But there may be other ones where it actually has

01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:56.759
to be remitted from the wastewater at each facility

01:02:56.759 --> 01:02:58.460
that has it present.

01:02:58.460 --> 01:03:02.000
So it's a study so that we can understand the scope

01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:05.039
and severity of what's going into the waste stream.

01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:05.880
Okay.

01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:08.480
Alderman Sanders, you've already spoken twice

01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:09.960
on this resolution.

01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:11.880
Yeah, Darren, did you want to add to something?

01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:14.639
Yeah, I think somebody asked how many tests there are.

01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:44.639
There's for each sample point, there's 42 plafornated compounds that have to be tested for at the current time. And that's an ever changing list. They've been adding plafornated compounds every year to the test. This is not a one time test. This is a quarterly test at all the point sources in Freeport. That's what this test requires. It also requires tests of our biosolids as well, which is our sludge production end as well. And again, this

01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:50.719
This is required by the NPDES permit, so it is a function that will have to be done and

01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:53.400
it's a study that will take an entire year to do.

01:03:53.400 --> 01:04:01.360
Kurt, could you pull up the NPDES permit?

01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:04.719
And it's a fairly lengthy document, you're welcome to review it.

01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:09.639
Alderman Sanders has a copy of it there, but you know, there's quite a few things in there

01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:14.239
that we will have to do in the next ensuing years.

01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:20.559
Alderman, Stacy? Yes, to say that there's 42 tests and I'm going to keep it low on the

01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:32.759
1000 per test. So one test is those 42 constituents. That's why the price varies because they keep

01:04:32.759 --> 01:04:39.279
adding. Two years ago, there was only 20 constituents. Now there's 42. So it's not each individual

01:04:39.279 --> 01:05:01.279
One test is the 42 parameters. Does that make sense? When you go to a lab, you buy one test, which has all 42 constituents tested. These are not regulated compounds at this time in our waste streams. They're doing this study to figure out what the waste regulations will be.

01:05:01.279 --> 01:05:07.279
So the 42 test is going to guesstimate cost us?

01:05:07.279 --> 01:05:21.279
$41,000. It's quarterly at all the SIUs, significant industrial users, as well as our own facilities.

01:05:21.279 --> 01:05:26.279
So you would like me to think Fehr Graham isn't getting nothing for their time and efforts in this matter?

01:05:26.279 --> 01:05:32.599
No, we're doing the study. That is what, that is what the proposal states is we are doing the study.

01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:36.840
It's required to be done by a wastewater engineer.

01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:41.480
There's no, Alderman Johnson.

01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:46.759
So you said it had to be done at all the sites. How many sites are there where you have to do this?

01:05:46.759 --> 01:05:54.359
I believe we have, I believe the number is seven outside of the city owned properties,

01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:58.440
Please, seven SIUs is what I believe we currently have.

01:05:58.440 --> 01:05:59.440
Yes.

01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:00.440
Thank you.

01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:01.440
That's significant industrial contributor.

01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:02.440
Right.

01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:03.440
Yeah.

01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:04.440
Right.

01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:05.440
Thank you.

01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.440
Madam Clerk, please take the roll on the resolution.

01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:08.440
Stacy?

01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:09.440
Aye.

01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:10.440
Shadle?

01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:11.440
Aye.

01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:12.440
Sanders?

01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.440
I'm thinking.

01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:24.279
Would you like me to come back to you?

01:06:24.279 --> 01:06:33.199
Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. Sanders?

01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:43.960
Okay. That's a yes. The resolution is adopted 8-0. Item number 18 is the

01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:49.400
adoption of resolution 2025-138. Could you please read this? Resolution

01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:53.199
approving an agreement with Fehr Graham to provide design engineering services

01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:58.800
is related to phase two of the construction of the wastewater treatment plant project.

01:06:58.800 --> 01:06:59.800
Thank you.

01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:00.800
Manager Boyer?

01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:01.800
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:05.800
Actually, if you if we want to look at the NPDES permit, there's additional requirements

01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:11.679
that are up on the screen for nutrient removal, and that is basically going to fit into our

01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.920
phase two wastewater treatment upgrade.

01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:19.639
So phase two is essentially removal of phosphorus.

01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:26.880
We need to go from a 2.0 parts per million phosphorus limit to a 0.5 phosphorus. So that's

01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:34.440
a significant reduction. To allow for that we need to generate or the process will generate

01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:39.639
about twice as much sludge as we currently generate. So that requires us doubling the

01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:46.079
size of our sludge handle equipment. Now the sludge building, the belt filter press, the

01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:51.079
and the Gravity Belt Thickener, the various elements and the digesters, they are already

01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:57.039
fully depreciated and the belt filter press and the Gravity Belt Thickener have presented

01:07:57.039 --> 01:08:01.319
some issues for staff and maintenance and that being that I believe it's over 20 years

01:08:01.319 --> 01:08:03.400
old, 25 years old.

01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:10.960
With that being said, this phase two process is approximately $45 million in total cost

01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:20.239
for us to be able to meet our EPA requirements in 2030, we need to have a Phase 2 in place

01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:23.319
so that we can meet our phosphorus requirements.

01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:30.380
So tonight I'm asking for Council approval moving forward with the Phase 2 project design

01:08:30.380 --> 01:08:34.559
due to the items we discussed in the NPDES program.

01:08:34.559 --> 01:08:41.559
The total cost of Phase 2 design is $2,950,000.

01:08:41.559 --> 01:08:43.559
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:08:43.559 --> 01:08:46.559
So moved.

01:08:46.559 --> 01:08:49.559
Second.

01:08:49.559 --> 01:08:55.559
We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Parker. Discussion on the resolution?

01:08:55.559 --> 01:08:57.559
Alderman Sellers?

01:08:57.559 --> 01:09:02.559
So you're telling us that this whole project will take five years?

01:09:02.559 --> 01:09:28.800
It should take a little less. I think we'll be done with phase one, which is currently going on. We should be done with that in 26, early 27. But then we would roll right into phase two, which is going to be 28, 29. And then once we get that completed, then we'll be meeting our permit requirements. So it should take two years for construction from the time that we start, but we should be starting in about 27 or 28.

01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:30.600
Alderman Sellers.

01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:59.050
and then so how are we looking to pay? Pay for it? Yes. Yeah, we're going to continue to pursue and we've been successful at getting outside funding as I mentioned a couple meetings ago. We're on hold, but we're waiting for a potential opportunity of $31 million of outside funding to pay for Wall 12, which is great. But the problem is they're continuing to

01:09:59.050 --> 01:10:19.050
We'll continue to pursue outside funding every opportunity and we've had relatively quite a bit of success in that. So I have no reason to think that we won't have success moving forward. However, we need to get the design done so that we're prepared and we have everything we need to show the EPA that we're moving along on their timetable.

01:10:19.050 --> 01:10:25.289
Ward. However, we need to get the design done so that we're prepared and we have everything

01:10:25.289 --> 01:10:30.190
we need to show the EPA that we're moving along on their timetable and we're cooperating

01:10:30.190 --> 01:10:32.430
with their requirements.

01:10:32.430 --> 01:10:35.610
Alderman Sanders.

01:10:35.610 --> 01:10:42.409
We're talking about an expansion, detached from the waste treatment plan itself. In order

01:10:42.409 --> 01:10:46.610
to do an upgrade, do we have to do a detachment to do so?

01:10:46.610 --> 01:10:57.610
We've acquired some property to the east of the plant, and that sludge would be conveyed to that location.

01:10:57.610 --> 01:11:04.610
It's just on the other side of the solar panels for the digesters and the things that need to be done.

01:11:04.610 --> 01:11:06.610
Did that answer your question?

01:11:06.610 --> 01:11:11.610
Yeah, yeah, you did.

01:11:11.610 --> 01:11:19.409
With the expansion detachment and everything, would there have to be any kind of remodification of the plan itself?

01:11:19.409 --> 01:11:25.110
Yes, it's going to require digesters, sludge handling equipment, sludge storage.

01:11:25.110 --> 01:11:26.610
So that's another...

01:11:26.610 --> 01:11:29.409
This is all part of this one we're talking about.

01:11:29.409 --> 01:11:31.409
All right, thanks.

01:11:31.409 --> 01:11:32.710
Darren?

01:11:32.710 --> 01:11:37.610
Yeah, I wanted to point out the special condition 20 is up here on the screen.

01:11:37.610 --> 01:11:46.730
it's right out of our permit and it shows the same condition that was in our 2020 permit that is

01:11:46.730 --> 01:11:53.930
updated in our 2025 that at 2030 we need to be at 0.5 milligrams per liter of total phosphorus

01:11:53.930 --> 01:11:59.770
so this is that plan I talked about last week that the city has known since 2015 that this was going

01:11:59.770 --> 01:12:06.489
to be the end date for phosphorus there's many facilities that are having this same limit put on

01:12:06.489 --> 01:12:36.489
and others on them, just like Freeport. In order to meet it, phase two and three are going to be necessary. Phase three is a biological primary filters and those are needed because our, I think I explained that last week, our biosolids, our sludge is going to increase dramatically from the chemical process of removing phosphorus. So we need these facilities in order to meet the permit. If we don't meet our permit, we will start incurring fines that will come out of user fees for every month that we're not

01:12:36.489 --> 01:12:58.650
Stacy, Shadle, Sanders, Absent, Sellers, Klemm, Johnson, Simmons, Parker, The Resolution

01:12:58.650 --> 01:13:01.050
is adopted 7-0.

01:13:01.050 --> 01:13:04.750
Item number 19 is the Adoption of Resolution 2025-139.

01:13:04.750 --> 01:13:11.110
Resolution Approving an Agreement with Berner-Schober to Provide Mechanical, Electrical, and Plumbing

01:13:11.110 --> 01:13:17.030
or MEP Engineering Design and Permitting Services Related to Phase 2 of Construction of the

01:13:17.030 --> 01:13:19.190
Wastewater Treatment Plant Project.

01:13:19.190 --> 01:13:20.190
Thank you, Manager Boyer.

01:13:20.190 --> 01:13:21.190
Yes.

01:13:21.190 --> 01:13:22.190
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:13:22.190 --> 01:13:28.190
Berner-Schober has been our, I guess that would be our Tier 2 design firm for mechanical,

01:13:28.190 --> 01:13:32.030
electrical, and plumbing for our utility projects.

01:13:32.030 --> 01:13:38.409
We use them at Well 11, Well 12, Phase 1 of the Wastewater Treatment Plant, and we've

01:13:38.409 --> 01:13:40.390
had a good working relationship with them.

01:13:40.390 --> 01:13:46.350
They've done an excellent job, and we'd like to move forward with moving forward with design

01:13:46.350 --> 01:13:49.170
for this Phase 2 project with Berner Schober.

01:13:49.170 --> 01:13:54.010
So staff recommends moving forward with a design project to meet the NPDES requirements

01:13:54.010 --> 01:13:56.750
and establish our phosphorus and PFAS requirements.

01:13:56.750 --> 01:13:58.230
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:13:58.230 --> 01:13:59.230
So moved.

01:13:59.230 --> 01:14:00.230
Second.

01:14:00.230 --> 01:14:08.869
Motion made by Alderman Shadle. Seconded by Alderman Sellers. Discussion on the resolution. Alderman Stacey.

01:14:08.869 --> 01:14:12.390
This is for the east side of town?

01:14:12.390 --> 01:14:25.670
This would be, well, not on the east side per se, but we're the wastewater treatment plant. This would be the design for the mechanicals and electricals at this phase two wastewater plant upgrade.

01:14:25.670 --> 01:14:28.230
On Hancock?

01:14:28.230 --> 01:14:35.630
Yes. Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:14:36.789 --> 01:14:51.670
Stacy? Aye. I'm sorry, I didn't understand that. Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders is absent. Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye.

01:14:51.670 --> 01:14:59.110
and Parker. The resolution is adopted 7-0. Item number 20 is the adoption of resolution

01:14:59.110 --> 01:15:04.770
2025-140. Could you please read this? Resolution approving an agreement with Fehr Graham to

01:15:04.770 --> 01:15:10.369
provide civil engineering services related to South Street ADA ramp improvements. Manager

01:15:10.369 --> 01:15:20.090
Boyer. Thank you, Your Honor. Recently, Representative Capello has worked with IDOT to get direct

01:15:20.090 --> 01:15:25.310
invested funding to the city of Freeport to resurface South Street from Galina to Locust.

01:15:25.310 --> 01:15:29.690
However, part of that deal is that we have to do all

01:15:29.690 --> 01:15:34.289
the ADA ramps and concrete work. So they can move forward with that.

01:15:34.289 --> 01:15:40.289
I believe we have 16 ramps that need to be done and staff would like to move forward

01:15:40.289 --> 01:15:45.050
with a design of the 16 ramps on the South Street Corridor so that we can get

01:15:45.050 --> 01:15:52.050
Completed, and ready to go to help encourage IDOT to start the project on South Street next year potentially.

01:15:52.050 --> 01:15:54.050
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:15:54.050 --> 01:15:55.050
So I'll move.

01:15:55.050 --> 01:15:56.050
Second.

01:15:56.050 --> 01:16:01.050
Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers.

01:16:01.050 --> 01:16:04.050
Discussion on the resolution?

01:16:04.050 --> 01:16:05.050
Alderman Sellers.

01:16:05.050 --> 01:16:09.050
So, Fehr Graham will do the ADA ramps.

01:16:09.050 --> 01:16:16.409
So we as the city, we are we going to help do any of that? And is this also paid by IDOT?

01:16:17.770 --> 01:16:22.569
So let me start with your last question first. OK, no, it's not paid by IDOT. They're saying they're

01:16:22.569 --> 01:16:25.850
going to put in, I don't know, four to seven million dollars in the South Street as long as

01:16:25.850 --> 01:16:30.170
we get the ramps done. We've budgeted about two hundred fifty thousand dollars to do the ramps.

01:16:30.170 --> 01:16:35.130
So that was already in the budget. And this is just the design work and kind of the bidding

01:16:35.130 --> 01:16:40.289
Process, everything that goes along with us getting a contractor to do 16. So these

01:16:40.289 --> 01:16:47.730
are 16 intersections, but not 16 ramps, correct? 16 total, eight intersections, okay.

01:16:47.730 --> 01:16:53.250
So at the end of the day, we just need to put together a design and bid these

01:16:53.250 --> 01:16:56.949
projects so we can have a contractor go ahead and do this. Can our city staff do

01:16:56.949 --> 01:17:01.170
it? Yes, they can. However, they will be busy doing a lot of other things and at

01:17:01.170 --> 01:17:06.890
at this time. We didn't see, essentially we're just putting in $250,000 here to get millions

01:17:06.890 --> 01:17:13.210
of dollars back in transportation system upgrades. So overall, I think it's a very good direction

01:17:13.210 --> 01:17:16.890
for us and staff requests move forward.

01:17:16.890 --> 01:17:24.789
Yeah, Rob is absolutely correct. Rob and I and Mayor Miller have been working on this

01:17:54.789 --> 01:18:24.789
We have any hope of getting South Street redone. This will be our one chance in the, you know, probably next decade to get it repaved and not just patch it. It's in terrible condition. We get tons of complaints on it regularly. And I think we made a significantly good move here for the citizens of Freeport to get that stretch of road replaced. And this is talking from Galena to Locust, where it turns into concrete.

01:18:24.789 --> 01:18:27.750
I was just going to ask him, where does it extend to?

01:18:27.750 --> 01:18:28.909
Right.

01:18:28.909 --> 01:18:35.829
And the hopes are that if we can complete our project by July of 26,

01:18:35.829 --> 01:18:38.590
that the repavement would happen this fall.

01:18:38.590 --> 01:18:42.869
So honestly, I don't think it could get any better than that.

01:18:42.869 --> 01:18:46.310
And it is probably close to a five million dollar project through that corridor

01:18:46.310 --> 01:18:49.789
just for the the removal of pavement and the relaying of it.

01:18:49.789 --> 01:18:59.869
Alderman, Stacy? I'm trying to understand this. Okay, so Galena and Locust runs north and south.

01:19:00.670 --> 01:19:08.190
Where Galena Y's off out by the Old Ramada all the way to Locust Street on South Street. That's what

01:19:08.190 --> 01:19:19.390
will get repaved. Okay. Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye.

01:19:19.390 --> 01:19:28.270
Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. And Parker? Aye. The resolution is adopted 8-0.

01:19:28.270 --> 01:19:33.789
Item number 21, the adoption of resolution 2025-141. Could you please read this? Resolution

01:19:33.789 --> 01:19:38.270
approving amendment to agreement with MSA Professional Services to provide grant

01:19:38.270 --> 01:19:44.510
administration services for Housing and Urban Development or HUD Community Development Block

01:19:44.510 --> 01:19:48.630
Scott Grant for Housing and Rehabilitation Grant.

01:19:48.630 --> 01:19:49.630
Thank you, Director Heimerdinger.

01:19:49.630 --> 01:19:50.630
Thank you.

01:19:50.630 --> 01:19:59.110
The 2021 CDBG Housing and Rehabilitation Grant will move to the closeout period.

01:19:59.110 --> 01:20:04.570
We've moved to the closeout period this November, and staff recommends retaining professional

01:20:04.570 --> 01:20:06.970
services through the closeout period.

01:20:06.970 --> 01:20:16.470
With the contract expiring February 28, 2026, home availability grants are very labor-intensive,

01:20:16.470 --> 01:20:20.730
require coordination with families to make improvements for safety, health, and quality

01:20:20.730 --> 01:20:27.150
of life to promote transparency in selecting homeowners and also working with the homeowners

01:20:27.150 --> 01:20:35.310
during the grant process. The City hired MSA to administer the grant with staff assisting indirectly.

01:20:35.310 --> 01:20:41.550
The City previously had staff members to, a staff member to assist, but that position was

01:20:41.550 --> 01:20:48.750
vacant since early 2025, so funds originally allocated for that staff will now be redirected

01:20:48.750 --> 01:20:51.950
and have already been redirected to MSA to complete the grant.

01:20:51.950 --> 01:21:06.950
The contract is being updated to improve transparency and clarity. The previous contract had no cap on expenses. The amended contract lists an estimated fee of $40,000 to complete the grant with payments on a time and expense basis.

01:21:06.950 --> 01:21:16.950
Any additional work over the estimated fee will require prior authorization or a new service contract subject to Council approval.

01:21:16.950 --> 01:21:41.950
Staff is requesting 64,000 of grant funds to cover administration costs which is the maximum allowed by the grant. Staff also recommends the approval of the resolution to enter into a service contract with MSA for administration and close out of the 2021 CBBG Housing Rehabilitation Grant, supporting efficient government and thriving neighborhoods through home rehabilitation.

01:21:41.950 --> 01:21:42.950
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:21:42.950 --> 01:21:43.950
So moved.

01:21:43.950 --> 01:21:44.950
Second.

01:21:44.950 --> 01:21:49.550
In motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle.

01:21:49.550 --> 01:21:50.550
Discussion on the resolution.

01:21:50.550 --> 01:21:51.550
Alderman Johnson.

01:21:51.550 --> 01:21:52.550
Yes.

01:21:52.550 --> 01:21:57.950
On the memo, it says the City of Freeport did have staff to assist with the implementing

01:21:57.950 --> 01:22:01.150
the grant when it was applied for to offset the cost and so forth.

01:22:01.150 --> 01:22:05.350
What was that position and how much was the salary for that position?

01:22:05.350 --> 01:22:08.510
That position was a planning position.

01:22:08.510 --> 01:22:11.150
I think her name was LaVena.

01:22:11.150 --> 01:22:19.270
I don't have the salary amount, but I can always get that to you, or we can look that

01:22:19.270 --> 01:22:21.590
up real quick.

01:22:21.590 --> 01:22:25.510
But that one job wasn't solely her focus.

01:22:25.510 --> 01:22:27.550
Yes, exactly.

01:22:27.550 --> 01:22:28.990
Right, right.

01:22:28.990 --> 01:22:32.550
Anyone else while he's looking at Alderman Sanders?

01:22:32.550 --> 01:22:42.650
I'm looking, the service providers for this grant, who are they and where do they come

01:22:42.650 --> 01:22:52.330
from and how is it recommended to the city that we should even consider, well grants

01:22:52.330 --> 01:22:56.650
and the rest of the board.

01:22:56.650 --> 01:23:06.010
I'm going to go ahead and start by saying that we are going to be discussing some of

01:23:06.010 --> 01:23:07.010
these issues.

01:23:07.010 --> 01:23:11.930
And I think that these are things that we should always consider.

01:23:11.930 --> 01:23:22.230
But my thing is, where's the targeting location for these types of rehabilitations of grants

01:23:22.230 --> 01:23:30.070
Police, and that such a program even exists, that people can take the opportunity to sign

01:23:30.070 --> 01:23:36.030
up for these types of grants, is that going to be exposed to the citizens of Freeport?

01:23:36.030 --> 01:23:41.190
So this, yes, this grant actually is in the closeout stage, so it's one that we've already

01:23:41.190 --> 01:23:42.190
been working on.

01:23:42.190 --> 01:23:47.150
It is, we have done nine homes, seven are actually completed.

01:23:47.150 --> 01:23:53.950
We have two more that are in the works right now that MSA is currently working on.

01:23:53.950 --> 01:23:56.390
This is not a new company that we're working with.

01:23:56.390 --> 01:24:00.390
It's the same company we've worked with for years now on these grants.

01:24:00.390 --> 01:24:08.230
The biggest reason we're here tonight is that we noticed that there was actually no cap

01:24:08.230 --> 01:24:13.870
or no transparency about how much we were spending on these grants.

01:24:13.870 --> 01:24:18.430
and so we asked MSA to provide some more clarity on what it's going to take to finish out

01:24:18.430 --> 01:24:24.350
the grant so that everybody is aware of the amount that we're spending on their professional

01:24:24.350 --> 01:24:31.450
services in order to make sure that because we lacked a cap on the previous agreement

01:24:31.450 --> 01:24:36.150
that was signed in August of 2022, there was no cap.

01:24:36.150 --> 01:24:40.750
So we're just trying to make sure that we have a cap, we know how much it's going to

01:24:40.750 --> 01:24:45.590
B. until the closeout and just provide an extra layer of transparency to the council.

01:24:45.590 --> 01:24:53.470
So how will this be administered to the public that wants to be engaged with this kind of

01:24:53.470 --> 01:24:54.470
a program?

01:24:54.470 --> 01:24:56.870
Yeah, this has already taken place.

01:24:56.870 --> 01:25:05.110
So they already requested, they already sent letters to people who probably would apply

01:25:05.110 --> 01:25:13.190
and also could based on the information that we had would be recommended for use of this.

01:25:13.190 --> 01:25:21.630
We then the city in back in 2021 worked with regional one and they selected the homeowners.

01:25:21.630 --> 01:25:28.190
The homeowners after they were selected and teamed up with MSA, the state then approved

01:25:28.190 --> 01:25:29.630
all of these.

01:25:29.630 --> 01:25:35.670
So all of this was done in a third party in order to promote transparency and to make sure

01:25:35.670 --> 01:25:39.150
that equity was in the top forefront.

01:25:39.150 --> 01:25:40.910
Alderman Sanders, did you want to?

01:25:40.910 --> 01:25:41.910
Yeah.

01:25:41.910 --> 01:25:49.030
Could we get more efficient detailed information on this particular program?

01:25:49.030 --> 01:25:58.230
Because I'm not liking some of the adjectives that you're talking about at this point.

01:25:58.230 --> 01:26:08.830
Because it seems like to me it's strategically designed for some program areas where most

01:26:08.830 --> 01:26:12.310
of the people in need is not going to benefit from this program.

01:26:12.310 --> 01:26:20.030
And so I like to take a little detailed study more to understand the whole process of it.

01:26:20.030 --> 01:26:21.030
Yeah.

01:26:21.030 --> 01:26:22.030
Because...

01:26:22.030 --> 01:26:27.350
I will add the applicants were already selected and we already had all the homeowners selected.

01:26:57.350 --> 01:26:59.810
about amending this agreement.

01:26:59.810 --> 01:27:04.210
It's not, it has anything to do with this grant.

01:27:04.210 --> 01:27:07.070
That's been since 2021.

01:27:07.070 --> 01:27:08.630
Alderman Stacy.

01:27:08.630 --> 01:27:13.230
MSA, is that the organization out of Iowa?

01:27:13.230 --> 01:27:14.070
Yes.

01:27:14.070 --> 01:27:18.290
And they're the ones that chose this grant,

01:27:18.290 --> 01:27:21.750
that chose who would benefit from this grant.

01:27:21.750 --> 01:27:25.710
And so the 64,000 that we're asking for,

01:27:27.350 --> 01:27:34.230
for Administration Services. Who would that go to? Who is the Administration Services?

01:27:34.230 --> 01:27:46.070
Yes, so the $64,000 is the amount that the grant gave us, $550,000. And then they also said that

01:27:46.070 --> 01:27:54.470
$64,000 of that could be to administration costs. So who's reporting, who's doing all of the

01:27:54.470 --> 01:28:04.430
C., Project Management. In this case, MSA was doing those, so those funds were used to

01:28:04.430 --> 01:28:10.390
help pay for MSA's admin costs that they would invoice to us.

01:28:10.390 --> 01:28:14.750
Alderman Johnson, did you have a question? I just wanted to say I thought it was great

01:28:14.750 --> 01:28:20.030
that we had a third-party source picking the applications. I really thought that helped

01:28:20.030 --> 01:28:24.450
with transparency, and did you have my answer? I do have your answer. So, the salary for

01:28:24.450 --> 01:28:39.090
Alderman, Stacy, So the 64,000 that we're speaking of, you're saying that MSA did not receive their pay?

01:28:39.090 --> 01:28:41.090
They did, yes.

01:28:41.090 --> 01:28:47.630
This is just as a way to ensure that that money, that council approves that that money

01:28:47.630 --> 01:28:50.110
goes to them that was benefited.

01:28:50.110 --> 01:28:57.050
It's just an extra step to make sure that they received that amount.

01:28:57.050 --> 01:28:59.390
What amount did they receive?

01:28:59.390 --> 01:29:01.870
They received the $64,000.

01:29:01.870 --> 01:29:10.730
It's just basically a procedure to make sure that the admin stuff, the admin clause was

01:29:10.730 --> 01:29:12.230
granted to them.

01:29:12.230 --> 01:29:18.590
So the amount that we could spend within the grant itself went to the proper agency or

01:29:18.590 --> 01:29:41.590
I don't understand because they've already been paid. And so, we're going an extra step that's going to cost us $40,000 to secure them with the $64,000 they have already.

01:29:41.590 --> 01:29:47.430
For the 40,000, the 40,000 is for the proper closeout. That's the stuff that they still

01:29:47.430 --> 01:29:55.670
need to secure in order to close out the grant itself. So the 40,000 is for their administration

01:29:55.670 --> 01:29:59.030
fees until the end of February, as that is the

01:29:59.030 --> 01:30:04.230
of February, as that is the project closeout. That's them wrapping up the two homes that still

01:30:04.230 --> 01:30:09.510
need to be completed. That's them closing out the grant and filing all the paperwork

01:30:09.510 --> 01:30:15.750
and making sure they do all the necessary reporting and gather all the necessary paperwork

01:30:16.310 --> 01:30:20.310
for HUD, which is the agency that's providing this grant.

01:30:20.310 --> 01:30:27.110
And grant money, the grant money will cover this, $40,000.

01:30:27.110 --> 01:30:37.750
Yes, but if you look in the memo, we have exceeded that because there was, we have exceeded

01:30:37.750 --> 01:30:38.750
that amount.

01:30:38.750 --> 01:30:44.550
If you look at the memo, because there was no cap on expenses.

01:30:44.550 --> 01:30:54.050
So yes, but we have gone over the administration allocated amount in the grant based on how

01:30:54.050 --> 01:30:58.350
labor intensive this reporting is.

01:30:58.350 --> 01:31:00.670
How was we allowed to do that?

01:31:00.670 --> 01:31:01.950
How were we allowed to do that?

01:31:01.950 --> 01:31:12.190
If we only were allotted this much money, how were we allowed to go 40,000 over?

01:31:12.190 --> 01:31:25.470
We're not going 40,000 over, but we're going, the grant has the amount that you can spend

01:31:25.470 --> 01:31:32.430
knowing that it's probably not enough for you to finish out the grant efficiently.

01:31:32.430 --> 01:31:38.350
So grants don't give you enough to actually perform the entire grant.

01:31:38.350 --> 01:31:45.910
They give you a stipend of sorts, hoping that it helps you fulfill your grant administration

01:31:45.910 --> 01:31:47.830
needs.

01:31:47.830 --> 01:31:49.990
Every grant has a certain amount.

01:31:49.990 --> 01:31:54.110
It's never going to fulfill it completely, so there will be some funds that have to come

01:31:54.110 --> 01:31:55.550
from other sources.

01:31:55.550 --> 01:31:57.110
So why didn't we just stop?

01:31:57.110 --> 01:32:02.710
When we didn't have enough funds to do nine homes, and maybe we could only do eight, why

01:32:02.710 --> 01:32:04.670
didn't we just stop at that eight?

01:32:04.670 --> 01:32:10.870
We had enough funds for the actual to do the work, to do the rehabilitation.

01:32:10.870 --> 01:32:12.310
It's the admin cost.

01:32:12.310 --> 01:32:17.850
You can't use, the admin cost is the stipend that they give you.

01:32:17.850 --> 01:32:23.310
You can't use the actual funds for admin costs.

01:32:23.310 --> 01:32:25.390
So that has to go to the homes.

01:32:25.390 --> 01:32:29.870
It has to go to the home owners into the rehabilitation costs.

01:32:29.870 --> 01:32:34.670
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:32:34.670 --> 01:32:35.670
Stacy?

01:32:35.670 --> 01:32:36.670
No.

01:32:36.670 --> 01:32:37.670
Shadle?

01:32:37.670 --> 01:32:38.670
Aye.

01:32:38.670 --> 01:32:39.670
Sanders?

01:32:39.670 --> 01:32:40.670
No.

01:32:40.670 --> 01:32:41.670
Sellers?

01:32:41.670 --> 01:32:42.670
Aye.

01:32:42.670 --> 01:32:43.670
Klemm?

01:32:43.670 --> 01:32:44.670
Aye.

01:32:44.670 --> 01:32:45.670
Johnson?

01:32:45.670 --> 01:32:46.670
Aye.

01:32:46.670 --> 01:32:47.670
Simmons?

01:32:47.670 --> 01:32:48.670
Aye.

01:32:48.670 --> 01:32:49.670
And Parker?

01:32:49.670 --> 01:32:50.670
Aye.

01:32:50.670 --> 01:32:51.670
The resolution is adopted 6-2.

01:32:51.670 --> 01:32:54.070
Item number 22 is adoption of resolution 2025-142.

01:32:54.070 --> 01:32:55.750
Could you please read this?

01:32:55.750 --> 01:32:59.830
Resolution approving amendment to agreement with MSA Professional Services to provide

01:32:59.830 --> 01:33:04.750
Grant Administration Services for Illinois Housing Development Authority, or IDA, Strong

01:33:04.750 --> 01:33:07.110
Communities Program grant.

01:33:07.110 --> 01:33:08.630
Director Heimendinger.

01:33:08.630 --> 01:33:09.630
Thank you.

01:33:09.630 --> 01:33:16.310
In 2023, the city received $300,000 through the IDA Strong Communities Program for Housing

01:33:16.310 --> 01:33:18.590
Rehabilitation and Demolition.

01:33:18.590 --> 01:33:24.410
The grant was initially managed by city staff, but the position became vacant in early 2025.

01:33:24.410 --> 01:33:29.110
Staff recommended retaining MSA professional services to assist with the administration

01:33:29.110 --> 01:33:33.430
and Closeout, redirecting funds originally intended for the staff.

01:33:33.430 --> 01:33:38.610
The previous contract looked at the end date and estimation of expenses.

01:33:38.610 --> 01:33:46.790
This new contract explains that MSA will continue through the project closeout period, which

01:33:46.790 --> 01:33:55.030
is November, which is currently going to be November 30th of 2026.

01:33:55.030 --> 01:34:00.770
This amended contract greatly improves transparency, listing a proposed fee of $35,000 and stating

01:34:00.770 --> 01:34:08.670
that any additional work over the estimation requires prior authorization of or a new contract.

01:34:08.670 --> 01:34:14.870
Staff recommends approval of the resolution to enter into a service agreement with MSA

01:34:14.870 --> 01:34:20.190
demonstrating efficient government and supporting thriving neighborhoods through blight-leading

01:34:20.190 --> 01:34:21.190
mediation.

01:34:21.190 --> 01:34:22.190
Mediation.

01:34:22.190 --> 01:34:23.990
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:34:23.990 --> 01:34:25.550
So moved.

01:34:25.550 --> 01:34:26.950
Second.

01:34:26.950 --> 01:34:30.310
Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers.

01:34:30.310 --> 01:34:31.910
Discussion on the resolution?

01:34:31.910 --> 01:34:35.550
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:34:35.550 --> 01:34:36.550
Stacy?

01:34:36.550 --> 01:34:37.550
No.

01:34:37.550 --> 01:34:38.550
Shadle?

01:34:38.550 --> 01:34:39.550
Aye.

01:34:39.550 --> 01:34:40.550
Sanders?

01:34:40.550 --> 01:34:41.550
No.

01:34:41.550 --> 01:34:42.550
Sellers?

01:34:42.550 --> 01:34:43.550
Aye.

01:34:43.550 --> 01:34:44.550
Klemm?

01:34:44.550 --> 01:34:45.550
Aye.

01:34:45.550 --> 01:34:46.550
Johnson?

01:34:46.550 --> 01:34:47.550
Aye.

01:34:47.550 --> 01:34:48.550
Simmons?

01:34:48.550 --> 01:34:49.550
Aye.

01:34:49.550 --> 01:34:50.550
Parker?

01:34:50.550 --> 01:34:55.790
3 could you please read the bids approval of bid which was opened on November 13th

01:34:55.790 --> 01:35:01.190
for four structured demolitions thank you director Heimerdinger thank you madam

01:35:01.190 --> 01:35:08.590
mayor bid CD 0152025 for demolition and asbestos abatement of four properties

01:35:08.590 --> 01:35:13.070
was published November 7th in the journal standard and open November 13th

01:35:13.070 --> 01:35:17.630
with more bids received staff recommends are winning the contract to the lowest

01:35:17.630 --> 01:35:19.750
and the Director of Financial Affairs.

01:35:19.750 --> 01:35:21.470
For the first month of the year,

01:35:21.470 --> 01:35:23.630
the city has sent out $1,273, cookies,

01:35:23.630 --> 01:35:25.190
and a bill of MAPS,

01:35:25.190 --> 01:35:27.110
which is the first responsible bid

01:35:27.110 --> 01:35:31.150
for a total of $64,575.

01:35:31.150 --> 01:35:34.990
Elber and Sun Earthworks at $11,275

01:35:34.990 --> 01:35:38.870
for a 602-608 E. Stephenson,

01:35:38.870 --> 01:35:43.870
Fisher Escavating at $53,328.29 South Joanna

01:35:44.790 --> 01:35:47.470
and 120 South Rhouses.

01:35:47.470 --> 01:35:50.470
Community, and Effective Lamboos.

01:35:50.470 --> 01:35:52.470
Is there a motion to adopt?

01:35:52.470 --> 01:35:54.470
I'm sorry, to approve.

01:35:54.470 --> 01:35:55.470
So moved.

01:35:55.470 --> 01:35:56.470
Second.

01:35:56.470 --> 01:36:00.470
There will be a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Parker.

01:36:00.470 --> 01:36:02.470
Discussion on the bids.

01:36:02.470 --> 01:36:05.470
Madam Clerk, please take the roll.

01:36:05.470 --> 01:36:08.470
Stacy?

01:36:08.470 --> 01:36:12.470
I do have a question.

01:36:12.470 --> 01:36:14.470
Alderman Stacy?

01:36:14.470 --> 01:36:31.470
Let these companies line up with the rules and regulations to even being able to place a bid on such an event.

01:36:31.470 --> 01:36:42.470
Is everybody being checked out? They all are in correspondence with government laws and rules and regulations?

01:36:42.470 --> 01:36:49.570
Madam Clerk? I looked up Albert and Fisher and they are they have filed their

01:36:49.570 --> 01:36:55.730
annual report with the Secretary of State and they are in good standing. Madam Clerk,

01:36:55.730 --> 01:37:03.910
please take the roll. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Klemm? Aye. Johnson? Aye.

01:37:03.910 --> 01:37:13.510
Simmons, and Parker. Aye. The motion passes 8 to 0. Item number 24, could you

01:37:13.510 --> 01:37:17.430
please read this discussion? Discussion regarding notice of Safe Streets for All

01:37:17.430 --> 01:37:24.110
or SS4A public review and comment period will be open from November 12th to the

01:37:24.110 --> 01:37:29.710
26th. Manager Boyer. Thank you, Your Honor. The City of Freeport participated in the

01:37:29.710 --> 01:37:37.070
The SS4A, that's Safe Streets for All planning grant with ALTA planning and design over the

01:37:37.070 --> 01:37:42.470
last 12 months. Based on this overarching study, a draft safety action plan has been

01:37:42.470 --> 01:37:48.350
created to provide guidance on efforts to improve safety for people walking, biking,

01:37:48.350 --> 01:37:54.270
driving, and using mobility devices. This is a notice to inform the public that the draft

01:37:54.270 --> 01:37:58.730
Mayor's Safety Action Plan is now posted on the city website accessible on the homepage

01:37:58.730 --> 01:38:06.730
www.cityoffreeport.org under the latest news listed tile. Council members and all public

01:38:06.730 --> 01:38:11.210
members can access the link to review the Safety Action Planning Document along with

01:38:11.210 --> 01:38:16.870
the appendices. Reviewers can also post public comments and input about the plan, which will

01:38:16.870 --> 01:38:22.030
be logged by our consultants and the document will be live and available from November 12

01:38:22.030 --> 01:38:28.030
to November 26, 2025. After the public comment section is complete, Alta Planning & Design

01:38:28.030 --> 01:38:32.610
will finalize the Safety Action Plan and present it to the City Council for adoption on December

01:38:32.610 --> 01:38:38.190
1st at the regularly scheduled council meeting. Adoption of the SS4A plan will allow the city

01:38:38.190 --> 01:38:44.110
opportunities to receive specialized funding for these corrective measures and it fits

01:38:44.110 --> 01:38:45.550
with our strategic plan.

01:38:45.550 --> 01:38:48.750
Is there any discussion on this notice?

01:38:48.750 --> 01:39:06.230
Alderman Stacy. Was this discussed at the count? Yes, last week? No. Well, we're having the November 12th to November 26th date. Is there a reason why it wasn't discussed at the count?

01:39:06.230 --> 01:39:11.630
Well, I believe this is the time for community input, so we can bring it, you know, we're

01:39:11.630 --> 01:39:16.030
going to bring it before we've had Alta come and talk to us about the SS4A several times.

01:39:16.030 --> 01:39:20.430
And this is just an evolution of that process. So we're just doing what we need to do to

01:39:20.430 --> 01:39:21.590
advance this.

01:39:21.590 --> 01:39:22.590
Aaron?

01:39:22.590 --> 01:39:29.070
Yeah, so this is, like Rob said, it's been a 12-month process. So this is the final draft,

01:39:29.070 --> 01:39:34.230
if you will. And we put it out on the 12th, or we didn't, the city put it out for the

01:39:34.230 --> 01:39:40.030
12th. It gives the public time to review it, submit comments. The reason we're bringing

01:39:40.030 --> 01:39:44.030
this up tonight is to remind it because it was already posted on the social website,

01:39:44.030 --> 01:39:47.550
but for the council members, if you would like to review it, it's just a reminder that

01:39:47.550 --> 01:39:52.870
that's the location that's available. It's a very large document. So we posted it to

01:39:52.870 --> 01:39:58.230
the city's website so anybody could have access to it. So the more input, the better.

01:39:58.230 --> 01:40:00.230
and the more input the better.

01:40:00.230 --> 01:40:03.230
Alderman Sanders.

01:40:03.230 --> 01:40:08.230
Yeah. You know, I'd like for us to demonstrate that here at the council.

01:40:08.230 --> 01:40:16.230
I'd like for someone to really articulate that whole process right here

01:40:16.230 --> 01:40:20.230
so the open public can see it and hear it

01:40:20.230 --> 01:40:27.230
and that they're not fishing through websites trying to locate what we're talking about tonight.

01:40:27.230 --> 01:40:30.830
I would like for someone to come and introduce themselves,

01:40:30.830 --> 01:40:33.470
open it up like we're at a town hall,

01:40:33.470 --> 01:40:36.990
and talk about this particular subject.

01:40:36.990 --> 01:40:40.510
I think it would come, then the people would,

01:40:40.510 --> 01:40:45.110
because they're more, people like to see visual and audible,

01:40:45.110 --> 01:40:50.110
and they wanna have tangible access to what we're doing.

01:40:51.230 --> 01:40:53.510
And so I would like for them to look us in the face

01:40:53.510 --> 01:40:56.190
while we're talking about this,

01:40:56.190 --> 01:41:01.630
and they can have this they can look right at us and say well yeah okay you know I'm not I'm

01:41:01.630 --> 01:41:08.350
not mitigating anything right now I'm just saying that um I think it would be a great justice if we

01:41:08.350 --> 01:41:14.990
can have them to have someone to just come in and talk about it Alderman Sanders um City Manager did

01:41:14.990 --> 01:41:20.430
allude to that they will be here on December 1st here I didn't yes here I didn't yes here December

01:41:20.430 --> 01:41:24.750
1st yeah they'll be here on the first year that part and I think we've had them come at least two

01:41:24.750 --> 01:41:25.750
and Stacey.

01:41:25.750 --> 01:41:42.910
I'm seeing on this website that it's saying there's a public webinar November 19th.

01:41:42.910 --> 01:41:47.870
So if you choose to you can be on that webinar and you can give your comments to them in

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person or you can submit the you can do it on your own time and you could submit the

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and the response form to them and they'll track all the responses.

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So the key here is that they would like to bring their plan presented on December 1st.

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So you'll have time to review that, make any comments and we would like to have that adopted by the council on December 1st, because that program will allow us up to special funding in 2026 to try to move some of those projects forward.

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and I'll give you just a quick recap of the number one project on there is hopefully the

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realignment of Carroll and Empire at some point.

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That's the number one project that was selected as the number one safety concern in town is

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that intersection where it's offset.

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Walnut and Empire.

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I'm sorry, Walnut and Empire, excuse me.

01:42:39.250 --> 01:42:41.610
Sorry, thank you for the correction.

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And so that is the number one safety issue that came out of the study that has been ongoing

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for a long time and hopefully we can get rectified with some out of out of Freeport money to do that.

01:42:53.650 --> 01:42:59.410
So there's a couple ways for you to inform yourself before the December 1st date. So we'll move on to

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Department Head Reports, Finance. None tonight. Thank you. Community Development? None. And Public

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Works? None. Fire? Yes thank you your honor. This evening the fire department responded to a large

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We're in a large industrial building on Lamb Road.

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Upon arrival we found a piece of machinery on fire.

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Companies were able to effectively extinguish the fire.

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However, the large building was full of smoke.

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So we requested and made this response

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for the large MVU's mobile ventilation unit.

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And they just now arrived on the scene.

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But what they'll do is they, it's a huge fan on a truck.

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they back up to an overhead door deploy that fan and just blow all the smoke out of the building so

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they're going to be there for a little bit longer but they did a quick job knock down on the fire and

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I was able to return back to the meeting. Police?

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Nothing from the police department. Library? None. IT? City Manager? Thank your honor but I will

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I will pass tonight. And I just want to remind the viewing audience that next Thursday and Friday,

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November 27th and 28th is Thanksgiving holiday, so the City Hall will be closed.

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We'll move on to Council Alderman Stacy. Yes. I have a letter that I

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I had drafted to read last week and by it being the COW and not going around to the individuals I forgot that if I wanted to read it I had to do it during public comments and so I missed out but I still feel a need to read my letter tonight to the administration and city council members of the city Freeport, Illinois.

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Given the public's outcry over the withholding of SNAP benefits, it is hard to believe that we, as the council of this city, have proposed nothing.

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Not even a plan was created to address this issue.

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Fripper Township is the only governmental entity in the United States that has allowed $18,000 to distribute among food bank networks and pantries within the city.

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This noble act will help our pantries alleviate food insecurities for some of our citizens.

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Freeport Township is the only governmental entity in our county to take such action.

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This has consistently shown, they have consistently shown that they genuinely care about our Freeport residents.

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This is not lip service.

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The Freeport Township have proved their commitment through their actions and giving time and time again.

01:46:43.650 --> 01:47:08.650
and many others. Surprisingly, the city of Rockford managed to take action, but it's a larger city, and it has more resources, right? However, Freeport Township has far few resources, yet they, along with other community members, found a way to make a difference.

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WTVO Channel 17, you get it wrong when you said governments of Freeport.

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It was not governments. It was the Freeport Township, the only entity in this city that has done anything.

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And Mr. Patrick Sellers, if you have not received a thank you, let me say thank you.

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Thank you for your vision to the cries of the people and for not turning a deaf ear.

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What I find disheartening is that this city administration has done nothing substantial to help ease the burden of our constituents.

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and

01:47:53.650 --> 01:47:59.650
the rest of the

01:47:59.650 --> 01:48:09.650
administration. Instead of taking action, this administration simply provided a list of places where people could seek, could maybe seek assistance or frankly tell them there's nothing we can do.

01:48:09.650 --> 01:48:11.650
and

01:48:12.650 --> 01:48:14.650
John.

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I have been following the conversations on social media.

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People are asking the same questions.

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What are we doing to better support our community?

01:48:27.650 --> 01:48:29.650
Why the city administration is busy celebrating events like

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the

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and

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the rest of our community.

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While the city administration is busy celebrating events like witches and wine walks, there

01:48:45.890 --> 01:48:52.910
is a segment of our population, the constituents of this city, that was generally concerned

01:48:52.910 --> 01:48:56.030
about access to food.

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I hope Good Morning America was correct in their speaking when they said that the government

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If not, we yet have an opportunity to stand up and to do what's right for the people by

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the people.

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Maybe it's time for this administration to prioritize the well-being of all neighborhoods

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and all citizens over its falsely glorified downtown.

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There's more to this city than downtown, and there's more government entities to assist

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in times of crisis than just the Freeport Township.

01:49:37.570 --> 01:49:45.850
I propose to both Mayor Miller and City Manager Boyer that when another crisis occur, because

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it just might, that we don't pass the buck, but we join forces with other governmental

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entities in our city and county to help alleviate the crisis.

01:49:58.150 --> 01:50:03.150
to help alleviate the crisis through joint effort.

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This will help to reassure our residents that their health and safety is a top priority

01:50:11.150 --> 01:50:19.150
and further show them that their governments are willing to work together for their well-being.

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Thank you.

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Alderman, Shadle. I'm going to choose to pass. Alderman, Sanders. I just want to say all that

01:50:37.390 --> 01:50:53.950
that I concurred with from Alderman Stacy and the fact that what was said, we just need

01:50:53.950 --> 01:51:02.990
to look at ourselves to reconstruct this government body which is supposed to be government to

01:51:02.990 --> 01:51:08.290
to legislate all developments and everything within the city itself.

01:51:08.290 --> 01:51:20.890
It is our duty, as Alderman was stating, it is our duty to be someone who is taking up

01:51:20.890 --> 01:51:27.510
the initiatives and shining throughout our cities to show that our citizens do look forward

01:51:27.510 --> 01:51:30.590
to us to help them.

01:51:30.590 --> 01:51:39.270
We're supposed to be a helper here in this council, but we're derelict in our duties,

01:51:39.270 --> 01:51:48.030
responding to that, and I would call for or consider us reconstructing our council.

01:51:48.030 --> 01:51:55.870
Come up with new meaning of what a council should look like and what the government legislators

01:51:55.870 --> 01:52:03.070
and others of this body should be doing to legislate for the people here in this city.

01:52:03.070 --> 01:52:12.190
We're not demonstrating any of those actions and shame on us that other townships and agencies

01:52:12.190 --> 01:52:18.430
are doing more than this administration or this council.

01:52:18.430 --> 01:52:24.690
It is the duty of the council to shine and illuminate throughout the city.

01:52:24.690 --> 01:52:30.170
Not other agencies, we don't shine like we should because why?

01:52:30.170 --> 01:52:35.210
We're not doing the effective jobs for the people.

01:52:35.210 --> 01:52:37.490
We got this thing upside down.

01:52:37.490 --> 01:52:43.970
We come in here to work for the people, not against the people, or just deviate from them

01:52:43.970 --> 01:52:51.170
and just set them aside as if though they don't matter, that's what I'm hearing.

01:52:51.170 --> 01:52:58.910
and I keep saying that to my last year. If we don't show some changes up here, shame

01:52:58.910 --> 01:53:07.730
on us. We have to evaluate ourself to see if we're being effective to the city of Freeport.

01:53:07.730 --> 01:53:15.330
I will preach this until the cows turn blue. But the fact of the matter is, what are we

01:53:15.330 --> 01:53:24.010
We're going to do as not only the administrative part of it but the governing legislative part

01:53:24.010 --> 01:53:25.010
of it.

01:53:25.010 --> 01:53:30.930
If you don't understand what I'm talking about, we got our whole situation upside down right

01:53:30.930 --> 01:53:37.130
now and take my word for it, it's probably been like this for decades and because of

01:53:37.130 --> 01:53:42.410
the fact that it's been like this for decades, people get complacent.

01:53:42.410 --> 01:53:43.410
and others.

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That includes Council gets complacent to not do the duties of the people of this city.

01:53:48.630 --> 01:53:56.410
I think we should take an observation of this whole Council, retune it, refine it and come

01:53:56.410 --> 01:54:02.410
up with other resolutions for the Council, not for the citizens of the City of Freeport,

01:54:02.410 --> 01:54:09.770
but for Council, government body and the legislation of how we're legislating throughout the City

01:54:09.770 --> 01:54:11.290
of Freeport.

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and others.

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This thing is bigger than what we can imagine.

01:54:14.290 --> 01:54:20.250
And the little work that we're doing here in this city is little, very little.

01:54:20.250 --> 01:54:23.570
That's the reason why we're having people complaining.

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So if someone wants to take the initiative, it doesn't matter which council member.

01:54:32.130 --> 01:54:34.690
It can be just one person.

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One council member could take up the initiative and have changes to be provoked through the

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and

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Mr.

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Miller.

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I can't see anything being changed since I've been here for three years.

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The only thing I can see is only things that happen is that we follow a

01:54:59.250 --> 01:55:05.250
format of agendas that the people have not placed on the agenda, nor have

01:55:05.250 --> 01:55:07.250
Fowler, and the city council.

01:55:08.350 --> 01:55:13.150
I feel that many people have not placed on the agenda nor have

01:55:13.150 --> 01:55:15.150
the council

01:55:17.150 --> 01:55:20.350
put this stuff together to even discuss these matters of

01:55:20.350 --> 01:55:23.750
ordinances and how we get to the point of ordinances and how we

01:55:23.750 --> 01:55:27.650
get to the point of spending the amount of dollars that the city

01:55:27.650 --> 01:55:30.150
spend. We're not focused on that kind of stuff.

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Colleagues, that we have to reconstruct and deconstruct this council so we can do better.

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That's mine.

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So just a little piece of about what was spoken tonight about Township.

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It's a part of their job description.

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And despite what was said, despite what was said, SNAP benefits have all been reinstated.

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So thank you for all of your kind words.

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That's why I said I was going to read it last week.

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Alderman Sellers.

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And I did it.

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And then snap what's not real.

01:56:03.110 --> 01:56:04.510
Alderman Sellers.

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I don't have anything.

01:56:05.470 --> 01:56:06.310
I'm ready to do it.

01:56:06.310 --> 01:56:08.230
And it's our job too.

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Please stop, please stop disrupting.

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It's our job.

01:56:12.070 --> 01:56:12.910
Alderman Klemm.

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Yes, I'd just like to remind the citizens of First Ward.

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We have a Neighborhood Watch next week Tuesday.

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We'll be there at Schwartz Chapel.

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If you have any questions or anything

01:56:26.790 --> 01:56:32.470
you want to talk about please email them to me or give me a call thank you very

01:56:32.470 --> 01:56:40.030
much Norman Johnson yes second ward has neighborhood watch on Thursday at 630 if

01:56:40.030 --> 01:56:47.430
you have any questions please contact me thank you Alderman Simmons Alderman

01:56:47.430 --> 01:56:51.870
Parker school on we have a neighborhood watch next Monday night on Laurel Street

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at 6 o'clock that leaves us with public comment is there any public comments

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St. Vincent CLF Program and SLA is closing down and we're moving this tomorrow and stuff.

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and we want to tell you you do a good job doing the mayor in Freeport and we proud of you

01:57:27.390 --> 01:57:32.230
and we proud of Stacy, everybody, because you're doing a good job working in the city

01:57:32.230 --> 01:57:33.230
of Freeport.

01:57:33.230 --> 01:57:34.230
Thank you, Tommy.

01:57:34.230 --> 01:57:35.230
Thank you, Tommy.

01:57:35.230 --> 01:57:44.230
And, and, Don Parker went, so, we'll be moving Tuesday, so.

01:57:44.230 --> 01:57:49.670
That's what you were saying, yeah, good, it's not fun to move.

01:57:49.670 --> 01:57:52.790
Is there any other public comments?

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I'll entertain a motion for adjournment.

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So moved.

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Second.

01:57:55.630 --> 01:57:57.630
Any motion made by Sellers, seconded by Shadle.

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All those in favor?

01:57:58.470 --> 01:57:58.970
Aye.

01:57:58.970 --> 01:57:59.470
Aye.

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Have a good evening.

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and others.